MSI GeForce 8800GT Appeared

[WrigleyVillain]

ya this 1GB 2900 Pro, the monster deal that it was, may not be in my box for very long

[SaII]

probably 16 ROP'S...

are rops the new pixle pipes?

[MuffinFlavored]

I agree with vapor above, could give all about the stock cooler, I replace that junk ASAP

True.

I am definitely upgrading my 8800GTS 640MB
But, will it be this, the GTX I have in a box, or a card from this new "HD" 3000 series, or a "9800GTX".

[Vapor]

True.

I am definitely upgrading my 8800GTS 640MB
But, will it be this, the GTX I have in a box, or a card from this new "HD" 3000 series, or a "9800GTX".

I'm not sure G92 or RV670 will be much of an upgrade for you....they will probably perform slightly better, but the difference in playable settings don't look like they'll be very different, maybe an extra notch of AA, or higher res with lower AA (that's pushing it, lol)...but nothing significant. Power consumption will be lower though

High-end stuff will be later

[LordEC911]

are rops the new pixle pipes?

Render back-ends...

[MuffinFlavored]

I'm not sure G92 or RV670 will be much of an upgrade for you....they will probably perform slightly better, but the difference in playable settings don't look like they'll be very different, maybe an extra notch of AA, or higher res with lower AA (that's pushing it, lol)...but nothing significant. Power consumption will be lower though

High-end stuff will be later

Well, I appreciate the advice.

I just get anxious.
I was going to purchase my PC when 7900GTOs were the best bang for buck.
I took so long, I got a Q6600 for like $280.
:P

Patience is a virtue.
How long do I have to wait for said "high-end" stuff?

[SOLDNER-MOFO64]

Don't listen to any performance assumptions...this will be a monster when oced, and only because Nvidia got a wiff early about what ATI was building and what it was gonna be priced at 0_0

All hail competition

Perkam

Contradiction in terms....so we won't listen to your assumptions either then

[hani]

8800gt review http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=197188

its better then the gts and 2900xt

[hoop]

nice

[Shintai]

probably 16 ROP'S...

24 ROPs most likely, and if not. Then 20.

GTX had 24 ROP, GTS 20.

[zerazax]

8800gt review http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=197188

its better then the gts and 2900xt

those are the same benches from the previous thread that people pretty much scoffed at

when in the world is the Ultra EVER slower than the GTX by a huge margin, much less faster than it by 30+ fps?

looks like someone got bored and made up a bunch of graphics

[Shintai]

8800GT might be faster than GTS in stuff like 3Dmark06. But it will be slower than the GTS series in "real world".

[OBR]

The heatsink looks weak.

it is the same, like on other cards ... and looks great by me ...

[RPGWiZaRD]

those are the same benches from the previous thread that people pretty much scoffed at

when in the world is the Ultra EVER slower than the GTX by a huge margin, much less faster than it by 30+ fps?

looks like someone got bored and made up a bunch of graphics

Ultra is only that slow in 1 of the tests, that's not enough to judge if it just happened to be a special case when the reviewer for example perhaps had some background application starting to eat a lot of CPU in middle of the test or something and he never did any rerun or he never managed to fix the issue (whatever that could have been). I've once did a CPU performance review for an emulator and once I got an unexpected result in one of the games like this too and have no idea why it was showing exact same FPS at 1.8GHz as 2.2GHz altho at 2.8GHz it showed the expected fps increase (Check the graph here). I just think many people are being overcritical about articles today whenever they find one slight mystery mark in the graphs, for me it's not enough to disclude differnet possible reasons behind the unexpected result, in this case it was 2, Ultra being slower than GTX in the first benchmark and GTX underperforming in S.C.C.T and being slower than 8800GT even. But otherwise the graphs looks pretty reasonable when looking at the FPS curve figure between the cards and comparing the graphs from the different games.

8800GT might be faster than GTS in stuff like 3Dmark06. But it will be slower than the GTS series in "real world".

I'm pretty sure 8800GT 512MB will be between GTS and GTX in performance, those graphs above cope exactly to what I would be expecting of 8800GT comparing specifications of 8800GTS and GTX, ie between those. In shader heavy games I think 8800GT may even get quite close to 8800GTX performance due to the noticable shader clock advantage (1.5GHz GT vs 1.35GHz GTX). Saying it will be slower in "real world" tests against a 8800GTS 320/640MB is an understatement for this card.

[GoldenTiger]

it is the same, like on other cards ... and looks great by me ...

Yep... it's about as good a single-slot cooler as you can get . I for one like it.

[Ub3r-L33ch]

I'm seriously thinking about getting 2 of these for SLI but I don't want to get screwed out of the 9800 GTXs. Do you guys think the 9800 series will be out within 90 days so I could use eVGA step-up program?

[RPGWiZaRD]

I'm seriously thinking about getting 2 of these for SLI but I don't want to get screwed out of the 9800 GTXs. Do you guys think the 9800 series will be out within 90 days so I could use eVGA step-up program?

It prolly won't be out sometimes until Q1 2008, at least many seems to agree with it. Don't expect a new highend series this year at least.

Personally I'm guessing sometimes in February if everything goes as planned but depends when ATI releases R680 too of course.

[TreeTop]

8800GT might be faster than GTS in stuff like 3Dmark06. But it will be slower than the GTS series in "real world".

We all know this is true b/c Nvidia does not release anything without running it by you 1st

[RTR]

24 ROPs most likely, and if not. Then 20.

GTX had 24 ROP, GTS 20.

in every everest ss i see with G80/84/86 the pixel pipe = rop's

8600GT-everest
8800GTS-everest
8800GTX-everest

and in this everest ss we see 16 pixel pipe

[Shintai]

We all know this is true b/c Nvidia does not release anything without running it by you 1st

No, but because nVidia focused on shaders with 8800GT. And current games and such need more raw power than shaders. And the raw power is what GTS got. Its like the 2900XT vs 8800 series. 3Dmark06 2900XT wins, real games it usually loses.

Its not really rocket science to tell. You can say however, that cards like the 2900XT and 8800GT is more future proff than say "old" GTS series.

[Shintai]

in every everest ss i see with G80/84/86 the pixel pipe = rop's

8600GT-everest
8800GTS-everest
8800GTX-everest

and in this everest ss we see 16 pixel pipe

I would be surprised if they have gone back to 16. But that would also just strengthen my view in the previous post. But lets see with retail. Everest also need to fix those wrong texel fillrate numbers.

[kemo]

I would be surprised if they have gone back to 16. But that would also just strengthen my view in the previous post. But lets see with retail. Everest also need to fix those wrong texel fillrate numbers.

GPUreview indicates that they are 24 same as GTX

[tbone8ty]

when is this available? oct 29?

[vengance_01]

I sure hope so. My X850XT needs to be retired to my G/F rig. I need a new card. But I really want to see hoe the 299$ GDDR4 RV670 card will perform.