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    This is 3dmax 9 64bits render. Barcelona 2.0ghz result 2min4'.
    Dual Xeon 5355 2.66ghz is about 1min4x'(It's not my test)
    I will test this file with xeon 5320.
    I thinks Barcelona equal or a lilte bit faster than xeon in 3dmax render.
    And AMD x2 6000+ render this file in more than 6min.
    But 3dmax is not optimized for 8 cores, i think. High clock Q6600 may have better result.
    I want to test server app now, hic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper666 View Post


    the strait line is INTEL

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    "Notice that the Intel CPU has the advantage when it comes to raw processing power: it is about 19% faster in a single CPU configuration. Once you add a second CPU in both systems, that 19% lead is turned into a 3% advantage for AMD"

    What he didnt say here is the Intel is clocked 17% higher and still got beat by 3% on 2 processors

    that would be scaling better than 100%
    Sorry it wasnt the test using Intels compiler

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    You have not read this graph right, it's not even a scaling graph, it is a comparitive graph. The values you quote also do not show scaling above 100% I'm afraid because they are comparitive too.

    I am sorry, you cannot get better than 100% scaling with cpu's. It's impossible. If you could then IPC at one frequency becomes IPC+N at a higher frequency which is ludicrous. It's even more ludicrous if you are talking about multiple cpu's which you seem to be doing above. CPU's work downwards from 100%, not up from it.

    Unless of course the K10 has it's own laws of physics, maybe that is why they are in such short supply ?

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    I think he's trying to use the intel performance factor to amd performance factor as his example for over 100% performance increase, which it is not. It is only an increase in performance per clock cycle.

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    "Notice that the Intel CPU has the advantage when it comes to raw processing power: it is about 19% faster in a single CPU configuration. Once you add a second CPU in both systems, that 19% lead is turned into a 3% advantage for AMD"

    What he didnt say here is the Intel is clocked 17% higher and still got beat by 3% on 2 processors

    that would be scaling better than 100%
    Sorry it wasnt the test using Intels compiler

    ok on one processor(socket)intel won by 19% so on 2(sockets)it should have been 38%,(that would be perfect 100% scaling)but in fact the AMD ran more than twice as fast to WIN by 3%, thats more than 100% scaling on 2 processors,and yes it Phenomenal!! thats 122% scaling

    the graff had nothing to do with the scaling comment. I was responding to two post.in one Ill be sure not to do it as it seems to confuse people
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    Quote Originally Posted by linhvndiy View Post
    I want to know enable exactly NUMA in bios, please help me.
    The s3992 has a bios option called "node interleave", if it's disabled numa support is enabled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viper666 View Post
    ok on one processor(socket)intel won by 19% so on 2(sockets)it should have been 38%,(that would be perfect 100% scaling)but in fact the AMD ran more than twice as fast to WIN by 3%, thats more than 100% scaling on 2 processors,and yes it Phenomenal!! thats 122% scaling
    The focus should be moved from "100% scaling" vs. "122% scaling" (surely meant ironically) to something like 60% vs. 80%. Then all people here should be happy As we all know, one type of CPU in a multi CPU setup is hampered more by FSB, inter core traffic and mem BW than another type of CPU with its direct connection links, a cache shared by 4 cores and so on..

    Will a car run twice as fast by doubling the number of cylinders?

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    I can understand this result. Some one can explain to me?
    I got 1000 point Cinebench R10 more with DDR2 667(better with old result with ddr2 800).And window2003 change to Winxp64
    I think motherboard maker have a lot of work to do to tuning their bios to get the best performance of Barce.
    And i think s2932 have somethings wrong with memory or not optimized for barce mem controller.
    So it's can make these other review barcelona may be not correct.
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    linhvndiy, I kindly ask you to run "openssl speed" On Barcelona, and also your dual-Xeon 5320 if possible (for comparison). See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...45&postcount=1

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    Quote Originally Posted by linhvndiy View Post
    I can understand this result. Some one can explain to me?
    I got 1000 point Cinebench R10 more with DDR2 667(better with old result with ddr2 800).And window2003 change to Winxp64
    This could have been caused by the OS (different memory and CPU thread handling). CB might also not depend too much on memory latency/bandwith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
    16x64bit vs 8x32bit GPRs
    I looked at the older screenshot again, because this was my first thought. But he run Win 2003 64 bit edition as it seems. The older CB screenshot shows "(64 Bit)". See for yourself: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1048

    But there is another problem with your argument. CB doesn't do calculations using the integer registers (GPRs) but SSE registers. But these are also doubled from 8 to 16 in 64 bit mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
    You mixing his pi results up with cinebench. that's what he was refering to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zpdixon View Post
    linhvndiy, I kindly ask you to run "openssl speed" On Barcelona, and also your dual-Xeon 5320 if possible (for comparison). See http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...45&postcount=1

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    Yah, i will run it in some mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linhvndiy View Post
    Yah, i will run it in some mins.
    Woohoo. I've finally found people willing to run it. Perseverance pays off !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
    Oh nooooo.....It is very bad!!!!
    Remember?
    Are you on drugs?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohannesRS View Post
    Hey, he "somehow lied" about superpi, but he commented about Cinebench!
    No lies, we haven't even remotely seen the power of k10 as yet

    Mr.Ass is clutching at straws

    Quote Originally Posted by BeardyMan View Post
    You mixing his pi results up with cinebench. that's what he was refering to.
    Yeh he knows mate, he's merely trying to alleviate the trouble he has sleeping at night worrying about whether or not I'm right with my K10-SUPERPi predictions

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    yes but to predict is not the same has having the priviledge? for seeing a real result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by linhvndiy View Post
    Yah, i will run it in some mins.
    You enter the business of running benchmarks seldomly or never run by others but still offering nice informations.

    While you are on it, please run the benchmarks in the most recent Prime95 32-/64-bit versions.

    http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p95v255a.zip
    http://www.mersenne.org/gimps/p64v255.zip
    (Options -> Benchmark)

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    To dresdenboy: I will do it tonight.
    I just do the openssl. But i dont think it run well : only one cpu run. It should run on Linux. Please let me know how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by linhvndiy View Post
    To dresdenboy: I will do it tonight.
    Thanks in advance. BTW, Prime95 will write its results into results.txt in the same dir where the exe file resides. It will automatically do tests on one and multiple cores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardyMan View Post
    yes but to predict is not the same has having the priviledge? for seeing a real result.
    My predictions are based on what I've seen already, from some people with a little inside help . That's all there is to it I'm afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOLDNER-MOFO64 View Post
    My predictions are based on what I've seen already, from some people with a little inside help . That's all there is to it I'm afraid.
    It sure seems you are talking bs, I mean, you some how seen a record breaking fast k10 preview when everone else only had the so called bugged k10s. Can you tell us where you seen this ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    It sure seems you are talking bs, I mean, you some how seen a record breaking fast k10 preview when everone else only had the so called bugged k10s. Can you tell us where you seen this ?
    WERD.

    He's all talk and no show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    It sure seems you are talking bs, I mean, you some how seen a record breaking fast k10 preview when everone else only had the so called bugged k10s. Can you tell us where you seen this ?
    I never claimed to have seen any record breaking fast k10's at all. I said that from benchmarks I've been priveledged (lucky enough) to see, that k10 cpu's will run SPi 1M in less than 23seconds...and when OC'd will manage to bring that down to 13seconds. I never said which K10 cpu's so I'm sorry if any of you managed to slide an exact model number in there

    As for now, we have around 6 users on XS with a k10...all running bugged to the max in server boards/AM2 boards with ECC mem/no oc not to mention most guys have trouble trying to get theirs to boot and run properly.......yet you guys already seem to decide these are the final product????

    Come on....

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    Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
    It sure seems you are talking bs, I mean, you some how seen a record breaking fast k10 preview when everone else only had the so called bugged k10s. Can you tell us where you seen this ?
    I never claimed to have seen any record breaking fast k10's at all. I said that from benchmarks I've been priveledged (lucky enough) to see, that k10 cpu's will run SPi 1M in less than 26seconds...and when OC'd will manage to bring that down to 17seconds. I never said which K10 cpu's so I'm sorry if any of you managed to slide an exact model number/revision/stepping in there ...I certainly didn't mean the first one's out the factory with no bios.
    What are you guys on......10yr old child pills?

    As for now, we have around 6 users on XS with a k10...all running bugged to the max in server boards/AM2 boards with ECC mem/no oc not to mention most guys have trouble trying to get theirs to boot and run properly.......yet you guys already seem to decide these are the final product????

    Come on....

    K10 cpu @ 3Ghz & DDR2 @ 1066+mhz 5,5,5,18 & AM2+ MOBO = <17s

    K10 cpu @ 2Ghz & DDR2 @ 667mhz 5,5,5,15 & AM2 MOBO = 26

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOLDNER-MOFO64 View Post
    I said that from benchmarks I've been priveledged (lucky enough) to see, that k10 cpu's will run SPi 1M in less than 26seconds...
    26 sec is K10's 3+GHz result.
    it is obvious.

    the only reason Core2 achieves so amazing superpi results is its extremely fast cache. K10 is only 5-10-15 (depending on installed memory type) per cent faster than K8 when running superpi - it is a fact

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyosen View Post
    I also have prepared KFSN4-DRE, now waiting arrival of rental Barcelona

    Sorry for hijacking your thread, s7e9h3n...
    I deeply appreciate your exclusive support
    Not a hijack whatsoever my friend....Get ready, the cpu's go in the mail tomorrow and should reach you by the weekend

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