The First Layout Photo of 780i

[PRJ]

If thats the 780i, I'm going X38...

If X38 doesn't support SLi, I'm going Crossfire..

Eighter way, nvidia is loosing the battle

[jokester]

Not the first time Nvidia have done this, 680a was just two 580a chipsets on board wasn't it?

Jokester

[G.Foyle]

It wasn't.
I really hope it's a new nForce 600 series board, and the actual 780i is yet to come.

[Shintai]

A new nVIDIA chipset to ignore.

Oh please Intel, buy nVIDIA and let us make SLI with Intel chipsets!!

nVidia is out of reach really. Even if they wanted.

nVidia is worth 20billion$, add perhaps 20-25% extra for a takeover.

To compare AMD is worth 7.3billion$. Almost 3x smaller than nVidia. nVidia could buy AMD tho.

[jokester]

It wasn't.

Ahh, sorry it was two 590 chips.

Jokester

[evoic]

When are they going to friggin' learn that they need BETTER COOLING ON THE MOSFETS......

They continue to put those little plastic black wavey things on the MOSFETS and they're basically useless when it comes to cooling.

I'm sure there will be dried pink gum under the toy plastic as well, since these companies understand the importance of effective TIM. (*sarcasm)
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[LordEC911]

nVidia is out of reach really. Even if they wanted.

nVidia is worth 20billion$, add perhaps 20-25% extra for a takeover.

To compare AMD is worth 7.3billion$. Almost 3x smaller than nVidia. nVidia could buy AMD tho.

Please tell me you didn't just go off the market cap. (though it is obvious you did...)
Market cap |= assets
AMD would be a steal at $7.3 billion, since it is worth about $14-15billion and Nvidia would be a terrible buy, since it is worth only $3-4billion.

Anyways, just letting you know that's not how things work.

[Periander6]

Please tell me you didn't just go off the market cap. (though it is obvious you did...)
Market cap |= assets
AMD would be a steal at $7.3 billion, since it is worth about $14-15billion and Nvidia would be a terrible buy, since it is worth only $3-4billion.

Anyways, just letting you know that's not how things work.

Market cap most certainly is how such things work. The value of a company as a going concern often has little relation to book value much less just a measure of its assets. The value of a company is based on what the market is willing to pay for an ownership interest in that company, i.e. the shares of that company's stock.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Market_cap

Market capitalization represents the public consensus on the value of a company. A corporation, including all of its assets, may be freely bought and sold through purchases and sales of stock, which will determine the price of the company's shares. Its market capitalization is this share price multiplied by the number of shares in issue, providing a total value for the company's shares and thus for the company as a whole.

Many companies have a dominant shareholder, typically a government or a family. Most stockmarket indices (DOW, S&P 500, BSE, FTSE, DAX, Nikkei, MSCI) adjust for these by working on a "free float" basis, ie the market cap is the value of the publicly tradable part of the company.

Note that market capitalization is a market estimate of a company's value, based on perceived future prospects, economic and monetary conditions, and therefore largely independent of a company's history. Stock prices can also be moved by speculation about changes in expectations about profits or about mergers and acquisitions.

[LordEC911]

So you relink what I linked originally?

Market capitalization represents the public consensus on the value of a company. A corporation, including all of its assets, may be freely bought and sold through purchases and sales of stock, which will determine the price of the company's shares. Its market capitalization is this share price multiplied by the number of shares in issue, providing a total value for the company's shares and thus for the company as a whole.

Many companies have a dominant shareholder, typically a government or a family. Most stockmarket indices (DOW, S&P 500, BSE, FTSE, DAX, Nikkei, MSCI) adjust for these by working on a "free float" basis, ie the market cap is the value of the publicly tradable part of the company.

Note that market capitalization is a market estimate of a company's value, based on perceived future prospects, economic and monetary conditions, and therefore largely independent of a company's history. Stock prices can also be moved by speculation about changes in expectations about profits or about mergers and acquisitions.

[Periander6]

So you relink what I linked originally?

You didn't seem to understand what you linked. Takeover premiums are based off of market cap, "the public consensus of the the value of a company". Thus, just as Shintai said, any takeover would need to pay the market capitalization plus perhaps 20-25% extra for a takeover. A price well in excess of $20 billion for Nvidia.

You stated that Nvidia was worth "only 3-4 billion". It's absurd to value almost any company, much less a fabless semiconductor company based on assets or book value. Typically the market would typically value such a company as is does the vast majority of companies, based on the discounted value of its expected future cash flow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valuati...ted_cash_flows

Nvidia's high market value is a reflection of its high current and expected future profits, while AMD's low valuation is a reflection of its far lower future profit expectations and current losses.

[LordEC911]

You didn't seem to understand what you linked. Takeover premiums are based off of market cap, "the public consensus of the the value of a company". Thus, just as Shintai said, any takeover would need to pay the market capitalization plus perhaps 20-25% extra for a takeover. A price well in excess of $20 billion for Nvidia.

You stated that Nvidia was worth "only 3-4 billion". It's absurd to value almost any company, much less a fabless semiconductor company based on assets or book value. Typically the market would typically value such a company as is does the vast majority of companies, based on the discounted value of its expected future cash flow:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valuati...ted_cash_flows

Nvidia's high market value is a reflection of its high current and expected future profits, while AMD's low valuation is a reflection of its far lower future profit expectations and current losses.

Seem to contradict yourself quite a bit there...
Look I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

[Brother Esau]

eww barely any solid caps

More "CHEAP" FOXCON crap for the masses?

[SnipingWaste]

Looks like a way for Nvidia to get rid of all the 680i chipsets that didn't sell.

[NightRaven]

damn its hard to believe!

[OBR]

Wait for better mobos ... this is refference crap ... wait for Giga or Asus, there will be solid capacitors ...

[PRJ]

After all the trouble 680i had.... Why keep using it, I myself had three RMA on 680i Chips and burned 4 GB memory.

PRJ

[OBR]

I had tons of nForce mobos and problems were only on Gigabyte GA-NF680-DQ6 ... with rest no problem, and i am using NForce Striker and eVGA till today and i am very happz with ... nForce is great chipset ...

[virtualrain]

New chipset silicon from NVIDIA probably wont appear now until the DDR3 variant due in Q1 I believe. It looks like you are stuck with old chipset tech if you want to use old RAM on NV.

[Shintai]

Seem to contradict yourself quite a bit there...
Look I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

You need to argue better, because you are so wrong it hurts.
And you dont even understand what you link at.

If I could buy nVidia for under 20billion it would be a steal, since all the stocks are worth more. AMD aint worth 14-15billion but 7.3billion. You seem to forget their debt is pulling them in the other direction aswell.

But nomatter what, to buy something you need to buy the stocks. And the stock value defines the value of a company.

[hersounds]

mmm maybe the 790i SLI ,come to break the market? in Q1 2008,this 780i sound like a future mid -end market,i don't trust that nvidia put this like a high end.

[crash5s]

Wait for better mobos ... this is refference crap ... wait for Giga or Asus, there will be solid capacitors ...

Except for the fact that the reference crap was better for 680i then the third party stuff.

[Don_Dan]

Except for the fact that the reference crap was better for 680i then the third party stuff.

Just a simple answer: No.


Have a look into this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=159457

[evoic]

You need to argue better, because you are so wrong it hurts.
And you dont even understand what you link at.

If I could buy nVidia for under 20billion it would be a steal, since all the stocks are worth more. AMD aint worth 14-15billion but 7.3billion. You seem to forget their debt is pulling them in the other direction aswell.

But nomatter what, to buy something you need to buy the stocks. And the stock value defines the value of a company.

It's ok, Shintai.
He won't be back to argue the point.

Unless he also plans on taking a crack at similar arguments, such as:

"Water is NOT liquid"
"North and South are NOT opposite directions"
.....and my personal favorite -
"2 + 2 does NOT = 4"
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[crash5s]

Just a simple answer: No.


Have a look into this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=159457

That's one thread about the most problematic and picky of all 680i boards. I've seen more ing over strikers then any of the rest.

Every place you really look the evga is the one endorsed as the best clocker, least problematic, and the one to buy.

One persons results are just one persons, scores of "CPU INIT" speak louder

[zodduska]

after going through 4 EVGA 680i boards last month I finally broke down and bought an IP35 and am loving it..

the 680i is still sitting here in a sealed package, I dont think I can bear the guilt of selling it on ebay

i'm loving that hilarious 780i design though, from the company that brought you the plastic pwm heatsink