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    Try 2m50 captube, you'll get better temp once loaded (according to pressure drop it involve with that compressor)

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    few more tests last night before i shorten the cap tube

    32m @ 4600mhz with 1.7v on the same chip 6800

    Time unit was running 1 .5 hours

    Water barrel temp before 16.1c (taken @ the top of the barrel)
    Water barrel at the end 19.5c (taken @ the top of the barrel)
    Barrel size 120l
    Ambient in shed 15c
    Ambient outside shed 12c

    the tests were run around 8pm in the evening so the ambient temps had dropped quicker the the water temps

    as you can see the unit is running under load in a vacuum

    this however is where the best loaded temps were to be had -47

    when i increased the charge so the unit was running @ 0 vacuum the temp went up by 4c so -43 under the same load

    the high pressure stayed @ 13 bar




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    loaded hx temps 32m@4600mhz/1.7v

    HX temps peaked at T1 36c measured at the start of the hx and T2 21c as the water left the hx


    at the start of the run as image

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    The water going into the hx is hotter than the water coming out of it? After it condensed the vapour refrigerant? That doesnt make sense. Unless I am missing something.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopherTony View Post
    The water going into the hx is hotter than the water coming out of it? After it condensed the vapour refrigerant? That doesnt make sense. Unless I am missing something.

    the probes are fixed to the copper pipe carrying the refrigerant

    the temp on the 1/4 copper pipe with the refrigerant in entering the HX is 36c

    the temp of the 1/4 copper pipe with the refrigerant in leaving the hx is 21c

    i am not measuring the water temp here

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    Great work mate, -47 @ 4.6gig with 1.7v going though that chip, wish i new just how many watts that converts to, do any of you guys have any idea of how many watts this chip is putting out at this speed and load?

    Again good job Baz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoddemFX View Post


    From what me and Dave saw on his E6600 personally i'd guess it's about 160-180W with one core loaded

    Tom

    Thanks for the info tom, but thats running a 32m would that not be using both cores, or would it just be the one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazx View Post
    the temp on the 1/4 copper pipe with the refrigerant in entering the HX is 36c

    the temp of the 1/4 copper pipe with the refrigerant in leaving the hx is 21c
    15c reduction! Pretty dam impressive. Did you have a before and after with the original conderser in there Baz?

    So when you going to try a Plate HX?

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    Why should a Plate HX improve performance?
    Do you think the refrigerant will be much colder than 21c with a plate hx? The condensor is good enough! What temp. has your water? (around 18°C i think so he is very close to the max.)
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    I'm thinking when Baz takes it off his water butt and goes to a WC setup like most of us will have about the place and there being more surface area there and to also experiment all in the name of fun and finding out

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    like moc has said pete the coil hx has work ok so far

    the water cooling experiment has work in that it reduced the high side
    pressures in the unit at this load by quit a bit

    which means to me that i can put in a colder refrigerant now

    i think this is where the real gains will come from

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    What ya thinking gas wise now then? I love it how you never stop pushing the extreams and limts

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    What ya thinking gas wise now then? I love it how you never stop pushing the extreams and limts

    hehe that all i enjoy

    i would not be any good at 24/7 units

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazx View Post
    hehe that all i enjoy

    i would not be any good at 24/7 units
    Never say that dude. I think if we locked you and the Mole in a room and gave you all the kit you wanted a very very scary unit could be made!

    I just got hold of a cheap Vapo LS and tempted to mod it and WC like your self and see what it does

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Never say that dude. I think if we locked you and the Mole in a room and gave you all the kit you wanted a very very scary unit could be made!

    I just got hold of a cheap Vapo LS and tempted to mod it and WC like your self and see what it does

    its worth remembering that this unit is an experiment so ya might want to wait till we have all the data in to see if its worth the effort

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    Tom your correct dude. SuperPI is Single Thread only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bazx View Post
    its worth remembering that this unit is an experiment so ya might want to wait till we have all the data in to see if its worth the effort
    I only bought it for the case to be frank with ya. It was uber cheap, something to toy with and then bin maybe

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    unit is ready for sacha35 to work some magic with the water cooling







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    Nice work my friend

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    Very clean, I like it. I hope it turns out to be efficient.
    Last edited by killermiller; 09-30-2007 at 04:47 PM.

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    Nice Bazx but erm...has sacha35 gotta fit a suction line etc etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Nice Bazx but erm...has sacha35 gotta fit a suction line etc etc?

    hehe yes

    i use that one i had on there for testing stuff

    sacha35 will put on his own maybe evan the mach evap he will also be trying it with some 410a

    plus the rad cooling

    so still much to come from this unit

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    I cant help but notice that you are using 90 degree elbows on the water inlets to the dsh/hx. Anybody who has seriously water cooled knows that this is a in a loop. It takes away from the efficiency of the loop and thus some performance. I believe that you should switch up the vapor and water inlet locations so the water can flow straight though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TopherTony View Post
    I cant help but notice that you are using 90 degree elbows on the water inlets to the dsh/hx. Anybody who has seriously water cooled knows that this is a in a loop. It takes away from the efficiency of the loop and thus some performance. I believe that you should switch up the vapor and water inlet locations so the water can flow straight though.
    you clearly know a great deal about this sort of cooling thanks
    Last edited by bazx; 09-29-2007 at 11:32 AM.

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