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    I picked up a P35-DS3R and G0 Q6600. Nice combo, working pretty well so far. Got some tweaking in yesterday but lots more to go.

    I wanted to mention that I think the people who have problems getting above certain FSBs are actually limited by the CPU. I have a P965-DS3 and E4300 combo as well and it can't go above 345 MHz FSB much at all. The chips are perhaps more determining in FSB limits than the mobos, IMO.

    This G0 Q6600 is fairly happy all the way up to 425 MHz FSB or so, in my tests. Although I do think it's happier at a lower FSB with the 9x multi than up at 400+ with the 8x multi. I have to do more testing, but that would make sense.

    One thing I would really like on an Intel board is a way to change Vcore and still have the voltage change in EIST. On my prior DFI NF4 Ultra-D board, there was a setting called "Special VID" or some such that increased the entire Vcore range Cool'n'Quiet would use by a percentage (i.e. 103%, 110%, 113%, etc). That was great. You could be ultra overclocked when you need it but also really cool when you don't. Can of course be tricky to get the intermediate clocks and voltages, that the power management uses, stable. But it worked great with my Opteron 165 back then.

    Overall this P35 board seems a lot like the P965-DS3 (even looks very similar). The P35 may be a better overclocker. But my E4300, like I said, wasn't very friendly to high FSBs.

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    UncleMonty:
    >At first the CPU fan wouldn't spin, checked all the cables but nothing, I then moved the fan header from CPU to SysFan1 and it worked, I checked the temp in bios and it looks fine, anyone else had this problem, is it safe to use this long term ?

    Go to "PC Health Status" in BIOS. Change your settings for "Smart FAN Control Method" to, perhaps, "Disable".

    I had the same problem with my 120mm fans for my Scythe Ninja cooler. Starts voltage too low. There are some settings in the GigaByte utils like EasyTune to set voltage amounts and thresholds.

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    I have a P5B-DX thats making me pull my hair. Will the P35-DS3R give me a solid oc on my E6300, possibly even better? Another thing is that I had a p965-Ds3 back in the day and it had a horrible problem with oc/coldbug. Has this been resolved? and also hows the droop, and mem voltages on the new DS3R?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inteleron View Post
    I have a P5B-DX thats making me pull my hair. Will the P35-DS3R give me a solid oc on my E6300, possibly even better? Another thing is that I had a p965-Ds3 back in the day and it had a horrible problem with oc/coldbug. Has this been resolved? and also hows the droop, and mem voltages on the new DS3R?

    my p5b was a good overclocker but no where close to my p35c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trikoid View Post
    UncleMonty:
    >At first the CPU fan wouldn't spin, checked all the cables but nothing, I then moved the fan header from CPU to SysFan1 and it worked, I checked the temp in bios and it looks fine, anyone else had this problem, is it safe to use this long term ?

    Go to "PC Health Status" in BIOS. Change your settings for "Smart FAN Control Method" to, perhaps, "Disable".

    I had the same problem with my 120mm fans for my Scythe Ninja cooler. Starts voltage too low. There are some settings in the GigaByte utils like EasyTune to set voltage amounts and thresholds.
    Trikoid put the CPU fan back on the CPU header. The fan is set to AUTO throttle in the BIOS. Until the heatsink heats up the fan will not spin on the p965 or the P35 Gigabyte based motherboards. It takes about 20-45 seconds for the fan to start spinning initially. And if you happen to have a very cool CPU it may even stop and start off and on depending on the temperature. And that is with the retail heatsink. With some crazier solutions you may have some issues with starting voltage.

    Since I am running a quad core at 3.2Ghz I don't have that perticular problem. : ) Plenty of heat being generated here....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mackintire View Post
    Trikoid put the CPU fan back on the CPU header. The fan is set to AUTO throttle in the BIOS. Until the heatsink heats up the fan will not spin on the p965 or the P35 Gigabyte based motherboards. It takes about 20-45 seconds for the fan to start spinning initially. And if you happen to have a very cool CPU it may even stop and start off and on depending on the temperature. And that is with the retail heatsink. With some crazier solutions you may have some issues with starting voltage.

    Since I am running a quad core at 3.2Ghz I don't have that perticular problem. : ) Plenty of heat being generated here....
    mackintire is right. If I run my E4300 at stock with my TTBT, it takes few seconds for the fan to spin at boot. And even in windows idle, if I turn on the air con in the room, the fan stop spinning sometimes. The first time it did that I was like WTF but when I checked the temp the proc was at 20-22 C then I guessed it was so cold that the fan could stop spinning.
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    Couple of new driver releases, Jmicron updated:

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    my p5b was a good overclocker but no where close to my p35c
    but overvolting memory
    if i were you i'd wait for x38
    I dont think im going to go for X38. I really need the board now, and ill complete this rig. When X38 and Barelona come out ill probably build something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBruno View Post
    Maybe I just like underdogs. Or maybe I just don't like being suckered by TV commercials. I do like cheap women, cheap beer, cheap chips, and cheap motherboards. Guess that makes me a cheap mother___er. heheheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inteleron View Post
    I have a P5B-DX thats making me pull my hair. Will the P35-DS3R give me a solid oc on my E6300, possibly even better? Another thing is that I had a p965-Ds3 back in the day and it had a horrible problem with oc/coldbug. Has this been resolved? and also hows the droop, and mem voltages on the new DS3R?


    Absolutely not. The DS3R has droop and no pencil mod plus stupid voltage options. 1.6 - 1.8 nothing in between...

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    Would be nice not to have the board running higher Vcore when idle than under load. I see 1.36v idle 1.30v load with BIOS set at 1.425v. Kinda annoying. But it's not really stopping me from achieving the max of the CPU (or of the Scythe Ninja cooler LOL).

    The Vdroop must vary between boards or between CPUs because why would the BIOS guys even label the voltages that high if they aren't even close?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dnottis View Post
    Absolutely not. The DS3R has droop and no pencil mod plus stupid voltage options. 1.6 - 1.8 nothing in between...
    Wow dnottis, so what board would u guys recommend then? Im totally stumped on p35 boards
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBruno View Post
    Maybe I just like underdogs. Or maybe I just don't like being suckered by TV commercials. I do like cheap women, cheap beer, cheap chips, and cheap motherboards. Guess that makes me a cheap mother___er. heheheh

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    Anyone having trouble with waking up from S3 sleep?
    I have to do a hard power off/on for it to come back alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inteleron View Post
    Wow dnottis, so what board would u guys recommend then? Im totally stumped on p35 boards
    the ds3r is a great board as long as you can live with voltage options
    my p35c-dsr3 can go to 576fsb my old one did only 510fsb
    its just like micron chips n binning

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsamz_ View Post
    the ds3r is a great board as long as you can live with voltage options
    my p35c-dsr3 can go to 576fsb my old one did only 510fsb
    its just like micron chips n binning
    yea but i need them voltage options for my teams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by akaBruno View Post
    Maybe I just like underdogs. Or maybe I just don't like being suckered by TV commercials. I do like cheap women, cheap beer, cheap chips, and cheap motherboards. Guess that makes me a cheap mother___er. heheheh

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    Guys,

    I accidentally posted this to the beta bios section first.

    I am feeling a little stupid, but I am trying to OC my 965 DQ6 rev1 using the F11 BIOS and I can't seem to find a place in the F11 BIOS to adjust the memory timings. Am I just blind? There is an entry to us 2 different "modes" on the memory, but it's just like a mode1/mode2 thing, not a "auto by SPD vs. manual" thing.

    Is there a place in the F11 to do this? If not, is there a general consensus on the board about the best BIOS for this board that I can tweak the memory timings on?

    Harlech

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoob View Post
    Anyone having trouble with waking up from S3 sleep?
    I have to do a hard power off/on for it to come back alive.
    Tested with X1900XT and 8800GTS, no other add-in cards.
    Yep, I have the same problem.

    It has either to do with the refresh voltage on some memory sticks or the voltage sag when the CPU tries to reinitialize.

    Either way....it improved with F5 but it still does not work on my machine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlech View Post
    Guys,

    I accidentally posted this to the beta bios section first.

    I am feeling a little stupid, but I am trying to OC my 965 DQ6 rev1 using the F11 BIOS and I can't seem to find a place in the F11 BIOS to adjust the memory timings. Am I just blind? There is an entry to us 2 different "modes" on the memory, but it's just like a mode1/mode2 thing, not a "auto by SPD vs. manual" thing.

    Is there a place in the F11 to do this? If not, is there a general consensus on the board about the best BIOS for this board that I can tweak the memory timings on?

    Harlech
    Hit Control F1 to enable them. They will be in the same place your CPU clock speeds are...

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    Got a P35C-DS3R and in general is a nice mobo. OCed my Q6600 G0 to 3400Mhz with 1.32v, and pushed mine A-Data Vitesta Extreme to 1063Mhz(5-4-4-8/Turbo)@2.1v.
    In my opinion, the only real bad thing is the huge drop in the vcore, have to wait for the pencil mode!!!

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    I've read that RMClock can re-enable EIST on an overvolted rig. The Gigabyte BIOS doesn't. Can anyone verify whether RMClock can change voltage if the BIOS is set for a vcore other than "normal"?

    I'm waiting for a Vista x64 signed driver RMClock. Can't run it right now because of that. Sounds like they are going to make people pay for the signed driver. Not surprising I suppose considering it costs a big chunk of change for a signed driver (thank MS for the BS requirement).

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    Is BIOS F6 worth upgrading to? I am currently using Bios F4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swaaye View Post
    I've read that RMClock can re-enable EIST on an overvolted rig. The Gigabyte BIOS doesn't. Can anyone verify whether RMClock can change voltage if the BIOS is set for a vcore other than "normal"?

    I'm waiting for a Vista x64 signed driver RMClock. Can't run it right now because of that. Sounds like they are going to make people pay for the signed driver. Not surprising I suppose considering it costs a big chunk of change for a signed driver (thank MS for the BS requirement).
    I don't know why Gigabyte just doesn't do this themselves? Is there some kind of hardware limitation on their boards? This is the reason I don't change my VCore because of the lack of EIST support when playing the the CPU voltage.

    I also want a 1T/2T option for the memory
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burner27 View Post
    Is BIOS F6 worth upgrading to? I am currently using Bios F4.

    TIA
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    New GA-P35DS3R

    Ok,
    At first I wanted to pull my hair out (whats left of it anyhow). I could not get it to see both the cdrom and pata HD at the same time. I got around it by using my usb drive to load the SATA drivers and Chipset drivers. Just a really peculilar problem and the tech support for Gigabyte couldn't help other than saying "Probably a problem with the Benq DVD recorder and the IHC9 chipset." Anywho, I finally got it to work. Keep in mind I did not start with a clean install, so that was part of my headache. I had been trying a system with AMD and Biostar (easy setup by the way) and decided to go the Intel route and didn't want to have to reinstall XP since I have an original before SP1. Anyway, got it to work and am now OC'ing my 2160 to 3Ghz. However, I have ran into a curious problem. CPU-ID shows it still at 2Ghz, 333FSB with a multi of 6, but the software that came with the board shows the 3Ghz and so does properties under "My Computer" tab. I know it is overclocked because I did a baseline conversion of a MPEG2 file to DIVX when it wasn't OC'd and then while it was OC'd and got a 63% increase in conversion time. My question is, has anyone else ever had CPU-ID report false information before? I downloaded the latest version of the software. It's just without that report I have no bragging rights,

    Anyway, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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    Nevermind, but iswear it was showing odd numbers.

    http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=245468

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    I sent an email requesting the following to be implemented on Gigabyte boards.

    -1T/2T memory option.
    -Functional EIST when changing CPU voltage.
    -Actual voltage reading on PSU rails instead of "OK" and "FAIL"
    -Actual voltage readings on RAM, NB, etc. instead of +.1, +.2, etc.
    -Display of NB temperature if possible.

    Everyone needs to start sending them emails about this. I don't care about BIOS updates unless is has something of the above done because F4 has been perfectly stable, but it just the things above that get to me.
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