Quote Originally Posted by v_parrello View Post
Hipro5 very useful! Thanks a lot!

I understood at yee moment 975 is the best performer in 3D with crossfire.

What about 975 in superPI 32M. It performs better than P35? What is your opinion? Do you have some screenshot for 975?

Thanks a lot.
You're welcome....
No I don't have 32M of the 975.... BUT I'm sure that it'll perform worse coz
a. It will not have high fsb and
b. It will not have high memory bandwidth....
Though it has lesser latencies than the i965, i680 and P35 which counts most on 3Ds....
If we could have ALL of them in one chip, then it whould be a blessing.... High FSB - HIGH memory bandwidth and LOW latency....

Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
wow george, wow!
very nice! 2.4v... those poor poor chips
ok... i admit it, if id have a blitz id have tried 2.4v and higher too ^^


Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
so even when the mem is cool it gets damaged at 2.4v.... good to know!
even with our thick aluminum heatspreaders pressed against the chips with thermal paste... but you said they were cool to touch... so it seems heat was not the problem at all hmmmm
It doesn't matter if one chip is cool or not when we talk about HIGH voltage/current.....EVEN 1sec of heavy load could damage it no matter what....In 1sec it will not even get hot....

Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
did you notice any other degradation of the memory?
please check if it gets worse and let us know!
so atm what would you say is safe?
2.35v? 2.3v?
You can't say what is safe and what not in such occasions and here's why:
You may feed it with - let's say - 2.3Vdimm and you're "pussing" it too hard OR it has a "by manufacturing problem" (one chip at a million/billion)....IF ONE internal Mos-Fet of the entire SINGLE chip gets damaged, then the whole ram module IS damaged.....and we are talking about hundrents/thousands/millions Mos-Fets into ONE chip.....and Ram modules have 8 or 16 of them....

Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
but you needed more vmch to get the same speed 1T right? or did you straight go for a high chipset voltage and didnt check how high you can get with a certain chipset voltage?
GOOD question....I had the same Voltage for 1T or 2T.......BUT we have a problem.....and HERE IS THE PROBLEM.....and a BIG ONE....
Feeding a P35 Northbridge chipset with HIGH Voltage IT GETS DAMAGED......YES YOU READ IT WELL.....IT GETS DAMAGED.....
I used to play with 1.74 to 1.81Volts on this mobo and I was OK....BUT after some crushings on 3Ds, it NEEDS 2.01Volts now to work my rams high....
First I though that was the rams produsing errors and crushings so I fed them with 2.34, 2.36, 2.38, 2.40, 2.42, 2.45Vdimm with NO LUCK at all.....
I then fed them with 2.34Vdimm and UPED the P35s Voltage to 1.91V.....I then was OK.....BUT NOT FOR LONG.... Keep upping the P35s voltage so to stabilize my rams, now I NEED 2.01Volts to do so.....DUMN this is NOT a good sign at all.....and we are talkin about 2 - 3 days period of time....

Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
winrar, nice tip!
thanks

your posted loads of infos man, too much! hahaha
thanks for sharing all those results and tweaks!
You're welcome....

Quote Originally Posted by Gautam View Post
For me, 437.5x12 3-3-3 on 975x was about 150 pts slower in 05 than 525x10 5:6 4-5-4 on Blitz. Not a huge difference but the P35 appeared a little faster.
Maybe due to low fsb on 975 and high fsb on P35.....
As I figured out with some older testings of mine on the 975 goes something like this:
FSB 400MHz with Fatbodies at Cas 3-2-2-1 equals with FSB 440MHz with GKXs and Cas 3-3-3-1.....So at only 437 it's a bit semi-low.....At 450MHz with Cas 3-3-3-1, GKXs starting to show their teeth on the 975.....

Quote Originally Posted by PanteraGSTK View Post
Wow, you were busy while I was sleeping. Interested in seeing the 06' benches. Hopefully x38 will be on par with 975. We will see soon enough...
I'll put the QX6700 on the mobos to test it....I'm curius too you see....


.....and now some other testings just "for the eye".....Actually I'm not fond of them but I'll upload them for someone who might be interested about them.....

EVEREST Memory Bandwidth with Cas 8 - 6 - 6 - 18....



EVEREST Memory Latency with Cas 8 - 6 - 6 - 18....



EVEREST Memory Bandwidth at a bit higher frequency and Cas 7 - 6 - 5 - 18....



.....and the same with the Memset....



Some S-Sandra now........Actually it reads that I have 12GB of ram..... I don't like Sandra any more coz it aint accurate and it writes whatever it wants......BUT I'll upload it coz......it is full of colours.....