**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[yasoumalaka]

ey I been reading about this heat pipe mod. I bought the ceramique to do it, but I'm just wondering is it going to kill my board at 70c on load. I beleive 100c is safe, but maybe I've forgot. Please remind me what was safe for PWM.

[freeloader]

ey I been reading about this heat pipe mod. I bought the ceramique to do it, but I'm just wondering is it going to kill my board at 70c on load. I beleive 100c is safe, but maybe I've forgot. Please remind me what was safe for PWM.

I've been running my board straight for a few weeks at 70 deg C on the PWMs. No problems. They're specced for 100 deg C.

[Brother Esau]

Actually I think they are specked around 125c there abouts top end

I mentioned to you already to leave the thermal tape over the PWM area on to compensate for compression!

[Knight]

Ace-a-Rue and I have been troubleshooting a lockup problem that I have been having. He made the suggestion that I try installing Windows Vista without using Raid 0.

On a side note my Raid array has been underperforming. I would have to enable Volume-Write-Back cache in order to have the true speed.

Well now I can't install Windows on a hard drive. I removed the drives from the array, and set the SATA mode back to IDE. I also fixed the boot order as well as the order of the hard drives. Vista sees only one hard drive, but the BIOS sees both drives. (they are on ports 3 and 4) I tried to install on that one hard drive but Windows said that it couldn't install on that drive. I also tried the AHCI mode, but I got a similar error. I reset the BIOS but still no luck. I can't seem to know what the problem is.

[strange|ife]

ey I been reading about this heat pipe mod. I bought the ceramique to do it, but I'm just wondering is it going to kill my board at 70c on load. I beleive 100c is safe, but maybe I've forgot. Please remind me what was safe for PWM.

i wouldnt say 100c is safe by any means, its more like the max ya wanna be at.
I mean to hit 100c i would have to be outside in vegas running my rig

ideal on idle 36c, load 60-70c. remeber most of the time your pwm wont be hot as the sun. unless you constantly run primes or other benches

[Pntgrd]

Ace-a-Rue and I have been troubleshooting a lockup problem that I have been having. He made the suggestion that I try installing Windows Vista without using Raid 0.

On a side note my Raid array has been underperforming. I would have to enable Volume-Write-Back cache in order to have the true speed.

Well now I can't install Windows on a hard drive. I removed the drives from the array, and set the SATA mode back to IDE. I also fixed the boot order as well as the order of the hard drives. Vista sees only one hard drive, but the BIOS sees both drives. (they are on ports 3 and 4) I tried to install on that one hard drive but Windows said that it couldn't install on that drive. I also tried the AHCI mode, but I got a similar error. I reset the BIOS but still no luck. I can't seem to know what the problem is.

Does the drive have an "active" partition? I fought that battle when I installed Vista. It will give you that error even though it see's the partition.

[Knight]

Does the drive have an "active" partition? I fought that battle when I installed Vista. It will give you that error even though it see's the partition.

Yes it does. What should I do to fix it?

[cletus_cassidy]

I did this with an 8800 GTS that I had put a waterblock and heatsinks on it before is died. I just took the block and heatsinks off, put the stock cooler back on and sent it back. Got a replacement card about two weeks later. No questions asked. Good luck.

Yeah unfortunately I did mod it, pulled off the stock fan/heatsink and had my water block on it. Does anyone know how they would know if you modded it or not? The fan is just held onto the card with screws so it seems that I should be able to just put the fan back on it and hope for the best.

[Pntgrd]

Yes it does. What should I do to fix it?

And you are pointing Vista to this partition? Also, is the partition at least 12.5 gig in size? That is vista's minimum.

[Knight]

And you are pointing Vista to this partition? Also, is the partition at least 12.5 gig in size? That is vista's minimum.

Windows shows a drive called "Drive 1 of Partition 1 - 298GB of 298GB" It is set to primary.

Where is my other drive?

I try to press next but it says, "Windows is not unable to find a system volume that meets its criteria for installation."

What the heck.

Thanks,

[Alik4041]

And you are pointing Vista to this partition? Also, is the partition at least 12.5 gig in size? That is vista's minimum.

It's nothing like that... I know what he's talking about. Vista 64 bit wouldn't let me install on one of my raptors when I used it solo but it let me install on a raid 0 volume Also when I was trying to install on a solo drive, it didn't show the other drives. Some kind of glitch that google can probably help solve too lazy

[Knight]

It's nothing like that... I know what he's talking about. Vista 64 bit wouldn't let me install on one of my raptors when I used it solo but it let me install on a raid 0 volume Also when I was trying to install on a solo drive, it didn't show the other drives. Some kind of glitch that google can probably help solve too lazy

The strange thing is that my first startup and install of Vista was on a solo drive. I don't know what happened since then. I have Vista 32bit by the way.

I'm searching with no luck.

EDIT: I will try my Gparted disc to try and fix the problem.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Well now I can't install Windows on a hard drive. I removed the drives from the array, and set the SATA mode back to IDE. I also fixed the boot order as well as the order of the hard drives. Vista sees only one hard drive, but the BIOS sees both drives. (they are on ports 3 and 4) I tried to install on that one hard drive but Windows said that it couldn't install on that drive. I also tried the AHCI mode, but I got a similar error. I reset the BIOS but still no luck. I can't seem to know what the problem is.

why use ports 3 and 4 ?...why not use ports 1 and 2?

[Knight]

why use ports 3 and 4 ?...why not use ports 1 and 2?

I used ports 1 and 2 for my Raid array, but I wanted to rule out those two from my Raid problem. I just haven't switched back.

[Master of None]

The strange thing is that my first startup and install of Vista was on a solo drive. I don't know what happened since then. I have Vista 32bit by the way.

I'm searching with no luck.

EDIT: I will try my Gparted disc to try and fix the problem.

Go to your hard drive manufactures website, download their maintenance software, and “write zeros” to the hard drive(s). With one HDD attached install the OS. Add the other hard drive(s) after Vista is installed.

[Knight]

Go to your hard drive manufactures website, download their maintenance software, and “write zeros” to the hard drive(s). With one HDD attached install the OS. Add the other hard drive(s) after Vista is installed.

Is there a bootable program out there? I see that Seagate (my manufacture) has such a program, but I don't have any other PC's in the house that use SATA cables.

Gparted does not work, as it gets an error during boot.

[Ace-a-Rue]

I used ports 1 and 2 for my Raid array, but I wanted to rule out those two from my Raid problem. I just haven't switched back.

are you sure that your drives are not infected with any virus...which virus program are currently using?

like the poster above me mentioned...you can write zero's to the front and back of the drive which does not take very much time...if you do the whole drive, it is an all nighter! ...we are talking a limited low level format...i think seagate's tools allows for that

[Pntgrd]

Windows shows a drive called "Drive 1 of Partition 1 - 298GB of 298GB" It is set to primary.

Thanks,

Primary and active are not the same. The partition also has to be the active partition. When I made the partition for my Vista install I set it to be a primary partition like you normally would. After numerous attempts, deletions and repartitioning with the Vista disk, and always getting the same error, I booted back to XP. Using the disk management utility in XP I happened to right-click the partition, which was already labeled as primary, and saw the option to make the partition "active". I rebooted back to the Vista install disk and installation went on this time without a hitch. I am now courious as to how my XP partition is set. I will go and check and post back.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Is there a bootable program out there? I see that Seagate (my manufacture) has such a program, but I don't have any other PC's in the house that use SATA cables.

Gparted does not work, as it gets an error during boot.

you have a single drive installed with an OS..right?

[Ace-a-Rue]

Primary and active are not the same. The partition also has to be the active partition. When I made the partition for my Vista install I set it to be a primary partition like you normally would. After numerous attempts, deletions and repartitioning with the Vista disk, and always getting the same error, I booted back to XP. Using the disk management utility in XP I happened to right-click the partition, which was already labeled as primary, and saw the option to make the partition "active". I rebooted back to the Vista install disk and installation went on this time without a hitch. I am now courious as to how my XP partition is set. I will go and check and post back.

i think the way to do it in the vista install is to delete the partition with vista's tools and then make the partition again...it should work then.

[Master of None]

The strange thing is that my first startup and install of Vista was on a solo drive. I don't know what happened since then. I have Vista 32bit by the way.

I'm searching with no luck.

EDIT: I will try my Gparted disc to try and fix the problem.

Is there a bootable program out there? I see that Seagate (my manufacture) has such a program, but I don't have any other PC's in the house that use SATA cables.

Gparted does not work, as it gets an error during boot.

I don't normally run Seagate drives, but I know I wiped at least one before so they do have bootable software. They may call it ‘wipe’ or ‘low level format’ or ‘write zero’s’. They all call it something different but it is all the same thing. Vista seems to be very fussy about a pristine HDD.

If you didn’t remove the drives from the array in the Intel RAID Option ROM they will still have info on them indicating they are part of an array. If the software has the option to format the MBR do that too. Some software has it, others don’t.

[Pntgrd]

i think the way to do it in the vista install is to delete the partition with vista's tools and then make the partition again...it should work then.

That sounds like it should but it doesn't. Been there, done that. It might if it was only 1 partition. I went back to XP and took a ss of my drives in Disk Management. Please noticed how they are labeled. My XP install is showing C:\ and is labled as a System drive by XP. Then notice how the Vista drive is labeled "Active" as is the 4g flash drive that Vista uses for ReadyBoost. I fought this same thing for almost 3 hours until I changed the partition to Active. Then Vista installed fine.

[Ace-a-Rue]

That sounds like it should but it doesn't. Been there, done that. It might if it was only 1 partition. I went back to XP and took a ss of my drives in Disk Management. Please noticed how they are labeled. My XP install is showing C:\ and is labled as a System drive by XP. Then notice how the Vista drive is labeled "Active" as is the 4g flash drive that Vista uses for ReadyBoost. I fought this same thing for almost 3 hours until I changed the partition to Active. Then Vista installed fine.

i agree with your previous assertion that you do need to make the partition but it is not necessary to make it active...i just went through all the scenarios...

as long as the drive is partitioned and it is seen as "Disk 0", vista will install on it...what "knight" has to do is unplug the drive that he does not want to change...that way vista will only see the one, single drive and it will install as long as the drive has been partitioned.

[Knight]

I just have to laugh.

Ok... well I was thinking what program I could use to format/zero my drive so that Vista could install. I then said... WTH.. XP does that. I booted the XP disc and formatted the drives so that the partitions would be gone. I exited the XP install and placed the Vista disc in. It did the job.

[Alik4041]

nice job! When I was installing from a solo drive, the drive wasn't formatted. I was expecting vista to format it. Even after I clicked format...nothing.