Quote Originally Posted by gallag View Post
Dave. you have been pretty optimistic about k10 as of late, you have certainly been one of the more vocal members in defending any sign of weakness from k10 blaming it on steeping etc and pretty much hinting that k10 is going to wipe the floor with intel and I have been believing you but I must admit that it is a stretch not to think IBM has it right, No?

I suppose it is only a few hours till we find out if you are on the level

of course i've been vocal.

here's what i've been vocal about:

a.) people assuming that Cinebench 10 and SuperPi results as tested by coolater on a B0/B1 stepping processor are the presumptive indicator of performance for an entire range of processors.

b.) people making snap-assumptions that benchmarks that are published by Tier One vendors are the gospel even when, as we've seen with Dell and IBM, there are SIGNIFICANT VARIANCES IN PERFORMANCE.

c.) people using B0/B1 stepping performance claims to downplay AMD's ability to produce silicon that falls in line with the performance claims they've made in the past.

do I have a lot of experience on this platform? yes.
do I have a lot of background information covered under NDA from AMD and Tyan? yes

i don't drink the Kool-aid. I simply look for the people that do and try to correct it.

seriously. anything i've posted as of late has been to correct significantly incorrect perceptions on Barcelona and it's process to market.

if Intel would actually give me the time of day, I might be inclined to do the same there, but, i don't have the time, money, or anti-AMD attitude that they desire.

*shrug*

clear as mud to me.

in questioning these IBM results, i'm simply providing input that if IBM used B1 stepping processors (versus the BA/B2 stepping processors that will be present at launch), there's going to be significant notable impact on "scores" unless the proper workarounds are implemented.

waiting until tomorrow is somewhat laughable since outside of a very few talented individuals, i'm expecting a load of poorly done "thanks for the free chips, AMD...you rock!" reviews that have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with the capabilities of the platform.

EDIT: at least i'm intelligent in my responses versus some of these asshat Intel/AMD fanboi's who believe without reason. again, knowledge is power.

dave