Here's a little teaser....

[m411b]

This ain't fare!!
I have to wait 15 months before I can get my hands on a couple of these puppies.. But hell, by then even better chips will be out and about.

[s7e9h3n]

You're the man. It must feel great to have something millions dont, and crave for. I hate you-not in a bad way though, I envy you bastid lol.

Lol...no offense taken....but you should see the kind of hardware that the people whom I "hate" have

[Lightman]

On the contrary.....we talk about NDA stuff ALL the time that section. In fact we even have a DDR3 AMD rig up and running in there ..............


just kidding

Welcome back s7e9h3n!

DDR3 you say
Isn't it 2H08 thing?? Do you have time machine or something?? Can I borrow it !

Seriously tho do you have mobo for these babies or you stuck only with L1N64?

Once again back!

[s7e9h3n]

Welcome back s7e9h3n!

DDR3 you say
Isn't it 2H08 thing?? Do you have time machine or something?? Can I borrow it !

Seriously tho do you have mobo for these babies or you stuck only with L1N64?

Once again back!

The only 2p board I've got @ home is the L1N64...no need to run a full blown enterprise server there Also have access to a few current (or upcoming in some cases) boards. None of those 2p boards offer as robust an overclocking feature set as the L1N64. Yes, I can get these puppies to boot on a board which probably is easily accessible, but really wouldn't have too much fun with the setup. In my eyes, it's not even worth the effort to set it up; only to have to break it down after running a few benchmarks @ stock

[tsuehpsyde]

Hey, at least tell us what speed they are, you big tease you.

[Eldonko]

Yea steve, more info please!

[s7e9h3n]

Hey, at least tell us what speed they are, you big tease you.

I'm being serious when I say I don't know. The OPN is a bit unusual as it's not quite like the standard ES's and @ the same time it's not like any OEM/Retail model I know of. Even my contact doesn't even know what speed they are....he said I'd have to boot them to see My guess is somewhere ~2g, but that's just pure speculation.

[Kayin]

When you get them running, will you PLEASE give an estimate of thermal dissipation? Love to know if my new block designs will work on them or if I'm going back to the 3D drawing board...

[hawkeyefan]

I'm being serious when I say I don't know. The OPN is a bit unusual as it's not quite like the standard ES's and @ the same time it's not like any OEM/Retail model I know of. Even my contact doesn't even know what speed they are....he said I'd have to boot them to see My guess is somewhere ~2g, but that's just pure speculation.

Now that's is some weird stuff right there.

I'm kinda dull...what would the purpose of these chips be (different than ES or mass market)? For testing for boardmakers, etc.?

[msimax]

i think its time for those with l1n64 to start emailing asus for better bios support with memory timings and quad core support before its released

[Sparky]

i think its time for those with l1n64 to start emailing asus for better bios support with memory timings and quad core support before its released

Yeah definitely, getting through to asus with email ain't easy. If we start filling their inbox now with requests maybe they'll get something released before a year after the CPUs have been out

[s7e9h3n]

Now that's is some weird stuff right there.

I'm kinda dull...what would the purpose of these chips be (different than ES or mass market)? For testing for boardmakers, etc.?

While for the most part, AMD OPNs follow a somewhat structured nomenclature for models numbers, there are sometimes a few models which get unusual model numbers assigned to them at the time of pre-release and then get changed to a model number which is more "normal". For example, take a look at these Opties I had quite awhile back. Look closely @ the OPNs - they're marked as 264's and 266's:



Now try to find those on AMD's proc. listings Ultimately, when these cpu's were released in their retail form, they were released as Opteron 270's and 275's. Hopefully that sort of helps in clearing things up a bit.

[s7e9h3n]

i think its time for those with l1n64 to start emailing asus for better bios support with memory timings and quad core support before its released

Technically, they shouldn't have to release any bios update for the board until the quad is actually launched, but it would have been nice

[v0dka]

Even at stock, I would benchmark these things all day.

But I also understand why you would want to OC them first. So the big question is, when can you have access to the right BIOS? If there's anyone I would like to see working on these new chips Monday it's you.

Now. The eternal question. Are we gonne be happy with Barcelona?

[hawkeyefan]

While for the most part, AMD OPNs follow a somewhat structured nomenclature for models numbers, there are sometimes a few models which get unusual model numbers assigned to them at the time of pre-release and then get changed to a model number which is more "normal". For example, take a look at these Opties I had quite awhile back. Look closely @ the OPNs - they're marked as 264's and 266's:



Now try to find those on AMD's proc. listings Ultimately, when these cpu's were released in their retail form, they were released as Opteron 270's and 275's. Hopefully that sort of helps in clearing things up a bit.

That's right, I've seen those before. Wasn't there an "FX 36" or some oddity floating around here a while back? Thanks for the explanation, I had forgotten that happens. Wonder if they're just OPN's produced before the marketing department gets wind of the model lineups?

[Demoulous]

I haven't checked the link yet, but are you saying that the cpu's killed the boards? There shouldn't be any problem with the Tyan s3992, maybe with the s2915, but not the s3992. The L1n64 has issues recognizing both physical cpu's...I'm looking for a fix

Edit: Just checked the link and I still can't figure out if he's claiming the cpu's or something else killed those boards....

Yes Barca is a mobo killer. It has serious voltage leakage problems and can slay any mobo that compromised on its power grid. I.e. they used cheaper parts or made compromises in the VRM's used.

So beware, most Asus and Tyan workstation boards are effected AFAIK. I'd get you the part no's but I cba to vpn into work to bag em :P

[mAJORD]

Damn you s7e9h3n,.

Getting them to run in the L1n64 would be very very interesting ;p Hope it becomes a reality :O

[Sparky]

I have a friend who has the L1n64 and would really like to dump two quads in there as well.. Here's hoping it works out.

[msimax]

i hope asus doesnt lock us out till the fx comes out

[Morais]

sexy pics...damn cant wait anymore!

[s7e9h3n]

Yes Barca is a mobo killer. It has serious voltage leakage problems and can slay any mobo that compromised on its power grid. I.e. they used cheaper parts or made compromises in the VRM's used.

So beware, most Asus and Tyan workstation boards are effected AFAIK. I'd get you the part no's but I cba to vpn into work to bag em :P

Ummm...Tyan motherboards (along with most every other high-end server board) use some of the most reliable components available anywhere. If the cpu's managed to destroy those two Tyans, there may not be ANY motherboard known to man which could possibly tolerate the Barcelonas. IMO, Tyan boards rank right up there with the likes of Supermicro in terms of stability and longevity....That being said, I'd be interested in seeing your list of mobo's with "cheapo vrm's"

[tsuehpsyde]

Having used hundreds and hundreds of Tyan boards over the past year working in DC Operations, I'll toss in my two cents to say I don't look up that highly at Tyan much anymore. Their QC is pretty lacking. I've seen tons of boards that simply don't have the NIC showing up period, won't turn on, turn on and turn off, etc. Whereas Supermicro, I've probably seen about one or two hundred so far as we started using those, and they are much more reliable. Now mind you, when the Tyans work, they do work well (assuming no problems), but they're not the bullet proof solution I thought they were before working with thousands of servers.

[s7e9h3n]

Having used hundreds and hundreds of Tyan boards over the past year working in DC Operations, I'll toss in my two cents to say I don't look up that highly at Tyan much anymore. Their QC is pretty lacking. I've seen tons of boards that simply don't have the NIC showing up period, won't turn on, turn on and turn off, etc. Whereas Supermicro, I've probably seen about one or two hundred so far as we started using those, and they are much more reliable. Now mind you, when the Tyans work, they do work well (assuming no problems), but they're not the bullet proof solution I thought they were before working with thousands of servers.

OK, so the NIC's had problems, but how many Tyans have you come across which worked fine out of the box but ended up failing due to manufacturing defects (failing = dying, not a NIC or a fan header blowing up )?

[tsuehpsyde]

Like I said above, "when the Tyans work, they do work well". However, seeing as many DOA boards as I have, they've simply lost credibility in my book. I've yet to see a single Supermicro board that didn't work exactly as described. Every one so far has turned on and worked perfectly. No funky NICs, no weird booting up issues, no failure to POSTs.

But yes, when they do work, they keep on running. However, my Tyan dual AthlonMP fileserver crapped itself, and the motherboard was to blame there (was corrupting my RAID-5 storage filesystem, and rebuild attemps were futile until I moved the controller+array over to an FX-57 system). So yeah, I'm not fond of Tyan much anymore.

[s7e9h3n]

Like I said above, "when the Tyans work, they do work well". However, seeing as many DOA boards as I have, they've simply lost credibility in my book. I've yet to see a single Supermicro board that didn't work exactly as described. Every one so far has turned on and worked perfectly. No funky NICs, no weird booting up issues, no failure to POSTs.

But yes, when they do work, they keep on running. However, my Tyan dual AthlonMP fileserver crapped itself, and the motherboard was to blame there (was corrupting my RAID-5 storage filesystem, and rebuild attemps were futile until I moved the controller+array over to an FX-57 system). So yeah, I'm not fond of Tyan much anymore.

Ok, maybe it's a bit of a stretch to compare Tyans to Supermicros in terms of "overall quality of build" but I still think it's safe to say that Tyan mobos are some of the best boards available. If the Barcelonas killed those Tyans, I honestly think that even a Supermicro board would suffer the same demise....