K10 Scores starting to surface

[Blasar]

I agree, and by some miracle if 13sec at 2ghz is true I'll wear my daughters pink ballerena outfit and dance around the neighborhood lol!

QFT

[Hopeisthelastthingtodie MODE ON]

you gonna make me take a plane to see that...

Start practicing some moves...

[Hopeisthelastthingtodie MODE OFF]

I have to admit that i dont believe in 13sec SPI for K10@2GHz, but i dont believe in Santa, either...

[gallag]

From the benches I've been priveledged enough to see the results of ()a 2ghz K10 will score around a 19sec 1M Pi time......at 3ghz approx 12secs.

K10 cpu @ 3Ghz & DDR2 @ 1066+mhz 5,5,5,18 & AM2+ MOBO = <17s

K10 cpu @ 2Ghz & DDR2 @ 667mhz 5,5,5,15 & AM2 MOBO = 26

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[EvlUndrWareNome]

only a few more days.

Im soo anctious to see these chips!

[mongoled]

Depending upon the application, Barcelona clock for clock is equal to Clovertown or just a tad faster in some areas and in others it is 20&#37;+ (heavy emphasis on "plus" until Monday, ) faster. I have to say that final silicon is looking really nice at this point, especially in memory sensitive applications where this processor shines, but core speeds need to come up in a hurry to compete with Tigerton in general server applications.

The memory bandwidth numbers we noticed are a little surprising considering the results in certain memory intensive applications. The latencies are much improved over the last core stepping we looked at as is pure throughput which makes you think twice about the relationship between bandwidth and performance in general from this CPU.

My personal opinion is that if AMD had hit their original launch targets and speeds, the server market would be incredibly competitive at this point with Tigerton being a much needed response to Barcelona. As it stands, AMD is going to have an uphill battle at this time. But this is all subjective thinking from a guy who tried to compare an engine to a CPU, but maybe the results on Monday will clarify some of the observations I was trying to convey without breaking the rules.

Link
Another bit of info for the jigsaw puzzle

[bokis]

This is getting out of hands, someone seen a real chip yet

[hawkeyefan]

This is getting out of hands, someone seen a real chip yet

Those who have one or more of the newer revisions (Dave Graham, Gary Key, et al) seem to like it. But NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is going to break NDA to satisfy the curiosity of a bunch of overclockers. We're just going to have to wait till Monday for a glimpse of some sort of reality.

A handful of those who don't have a chip spend 24 hours a day on here engaged in some of the wildest bunch of speculation I believe that I've ever witnessed in my entire life.

Both sides at this point...have gone completely insane...blinded by impatience. And patience is a virtue .

One way or the other, a whole bunch of folks on XS are setting themselves up for a fat meal of crow next week.

Speculation = bad. Facts = good.

Heated arguments and personal attacks based on wild speculation = retarded.

[eXceeded]

I've got around a &#163;1000 saved up for these babies ... so they better not disappoint!

[JumpingJack]

Those who have one or more of the newer revisions (Dave Graham, Gary Key, et al) seem to like it. But NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is going to break NDA to satisfy the curiosity of a bunch of overclockers. We're just going to have to wait till Monday for a glimpse of some sort of reality.

That's assuming we get to see retail/desktop/client side chips for performance, if AMD only allows server benchmark reviews the debate will only get more heated.

Hopefully we will see not only the SPEC suit, but Black-Scholes, Apache and others, as well as some desktop applications....

This whole saga has been fun to watch....

[hawkeyefan]

That's assuming we get to see retail/desktop/client side chips for performance, if AMD only allows server benchmark reviews the debate will only get more heated.

Hopefully we will see no only the SPEC suit, but Black-Scholes, Apache and others, as well as some desktop applications....

This whole saga has been fun to watch....

I know it, and I'm intentionally NOT getting my hopes up that we'll have some sort of definitive snapshot of K10 performance by 5 p.m. Monday

Now I'm hoping against hope that even if AMD doesn't put out a full suite of relevant benchies...at least the Dave Grahams and their ilk will be able to show us a few desktop benchies with NDA lifted.

Yeah, this thing has been a real trip the last few months, that's for sure. I think we have about half a dozen people accounting for thousands and thousands of posts over that time.

I will say this much though...reading through all the crazy arguments...there is an incredible amount of stuff I've learned. Makes you appreciate how knowledgeable our forum members are...it's pretty incredible really. Some smart, smart dudes hanging around here. Even if they are insane fanboys one way or the other

[JumpingJack]

I will say this much though...reading through all the crazy arguments...there is an incredible amount of stuff I've learned. Makes you appreciate how knowledgeable our forum members are...it's pretty incredible really. Some smart, smart dudes hanging around here. Even if they are insane fanboys one way or the other

Hence the reason I hang out in the forums at times ...

Jon Stokes made an amusing quip in his Tigerton launch article,

I think we'll see that in the near-term, four-socket Barcelona systems will dominate four-socket Xeon systems in specfp_rate and in floating-point performance/watt. CPU-bound workloads will tell a different story, however, which is why I expect to see fanboys in both camps stinking up the Internet with specfp_rate versus spec_fp debates following the September 10 launch.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-platform.html

Gave me a bit of a chuckle....

Jack

[hawkeyefan]

Hence the reason I hang out in the forums at times ...

Jon Stokes made an amusing quip in his Tigerton launch article,

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...-platform.html

Gave me a bit of a chuckle....

Jack

Right? Like the arguing will stop Monday

As far as learning from these boards...I used to work for a bricklayer who would teach me some certain thing and then say "see, you learned something today. You had a reason to get out of bed this morning".

XS forums always give me a reason to get out of bed in the morning.

[bokis]

Oh well then we wait and see as usual, I am not a superPi freak, my main intrest is how well the preform in real life, fore instans in a htpc/mediapc
and offcourse the $$$$

[Fatal Error]

Since when a single sPi result is enough to judge a whole CPU architecture?
Please grow up and w8 some serious real life benchies....

[bokis]

Since when a single sPi result is enough to judge a whole CPU architecture?
Please grow up and w8 some serious real life benchies....

Exacly

[informal]

AMD Phenom to be available in small scale by October
From our friends in the industry, it is said that small quantities of Phenom processors should be available on sale as early as October.

There is no mentioning of the model and the price and exact availability date.
Looks like we will have to wait.

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showth...threadid=67137

End of October for Phenom loving (at least some lucky dudes will be able to play with it)

[hawkeyefan]

http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/showth...threadid=67137

End of October for Phenom loving (at least some lucky dudes will be able to play with it)

great news if it pans out, thanks informal. Finally something from the guys in green BEFORE we expected it

[misteroadster]

Of course, even as much as I am rooting AMD for their next gen processors, there is no way they can pull that kind of time with 2Ghz because from what I have experience, AMD generally doesn't do so well with SuperPi. So something that beats a 4Ghz Core 2 Duo plus the performance drop of using an AMD processor for Super Pi boggles the mind.

Common sense + Logic these next couple of days please

I have an interresting question i think, do you own any of those babies or it's full photoshopped ?

If it's not a full photoshop, do you overclocked one and decreased the frequency before taking the pic ?

If it's fully photoshoped picture, so congratz, great work

Thx

[red]

Gary Key from AnandtechDepending upon the application, Barcelona clock for clock is equal to Clovertown or just a tad faster in some areas and in others it is 20&#37;+ (heavy emphasis on "plus" until Monday, ) faster. I have to say that final silicon is looking really nice at this point, especially in memory sensitive applications where this processor shines, but core speeds need to come up in a hurry to compete with Tigerton in general server applications.

The memory bandwidth numbers we noticed are a little surprising considering the results in certain memory intensive applications. The latencies are much improved over the last core stepping we looked at as is pure throughput which makes you think twice about the relationship between bandwidth and performance in general from this CPU.

My personal opinion is that if AMD had hit their original launch targets and speeds, the server market would be incredibly competitive at this point with Tigerton being a much needed response to Barcelona. As it stands, AMD is going to have an uphill battle at this time. But this is all subjective thinking from a guy who tried to compare an engine to a CPU, but maybe the results on Monday will clarify some of the observations I was trying to convey without breaking the rules.

Translation, good clock for clock performance compared to Clover, bandwidth numbers aren't astounding, still needs to ramp up speed to compete.

[dave_graham]

well, judging from what i've now experienced, i REALLY hate some of these pre-release bios' that only enable 1 physical CPU to be used...

(then again, it's fun seeing "Dual Core Opteron 1247 Core Count: 4" show up on the machine.

cheers,

dave

[informal]

Haha,thanks for that input Dave

[dave_graham]

if you only knew the absolutely insane struggles i've had this evening.....

i've got 3 different boards (S2915, L1N64, S3992), 3 different beta BIOS (1.02C, 05.06, 2.00c), and 2 x FX-70, 2 x 2210, 4 x 2347, 2 x 2344 HE and i'm having to hand load XP Pro SP2 on the 2210 (solo) because of kernel panics on the CPUs and mainboards.

cheers,

dave

[Start]

I have an interresting question i think, do you own any of those babies or it's full photoshopped ?

If it's not a full photoshop, do you overclocked one and decreased the frequency before taking the pic ?

If it's fully photoshoped picture, so congratz, great work

Thx

Full photoshoped. If i had these chips in hand, I wouldn't be sleeping

[informal]

if you only knew the absolutely insane struggles i've had this evening.....

i've got 3 different boards (S2915, L1N64, S3992), 3 different beta BIOS (1.02C, 05.06, 2.00c), and 2 x FX-70, 2 x 2210, 4 x 2347, 2 x 2344 HE and i'm having to hand load XP Pro SP2 on the 2210 (solo) because of kernel panics on the CPUs and mainboards.

cheers,

dave

Damn,that is frustrating.Any hope the BIOS support will be better after the official launch?

Thanks for sharing stuff here

[dave_graham]

so, here's the happy news....managed to load out XP Pro with the 2210s, swapped the 2347 in and....guess what i'm staring at now?

yup....that damn XP loading screen....

yippee..

yes, BIOS support should be better. word on the street is the S2915 is getting a board respin so....i'll definitely need to check one of those out.

EDIT: 3 dead boards so far.....from a variety of ailments. *sniff, sniff*
dave

[Donnie27]

so, here's the happy news....managed to load out XP Pro with the 2210s, swapped the 2347 in and....guess what i'm staring at now?

yup....that damn XP loading screen....

yippee..

yes, BIOS support should be better. word on the street is the S2915 is getting a board respin so....i'll definitely need to check one of those out.

EDIT: 3 dead boards so far.....from a variety of ailments. *sniff, sniff*
dave

Da-am! After the NDA, please tell us what killed them?