K10 Scores starting to surface

[informal]

IPC cannot scale better than linearly with freq.It only can go lower(due to various reasons).The point is the platform(all around) was not final,and this is backed up with his statement that in week time they saw a good improvement(measurable,not 5%) with new samples and boards.

PS This is going nowhere, to be frank.The whole thing cannot be discussed since we actually know nothing about the stage of readiness of the whole systems used(AT's and from the dude from coolaler's forum)

[JumpingJack]

IPC cannot scale better than linearly with freq.It only can go lower(due to various reasons).The point is the platform(all around) was not final,and this is backed up with his statement that in week time they saw a good improvement(measurable,not 5&#37 with new samples and boards.

PS This is going nowhere, to be frank.The whole thing cannot be discussed since we actually know nothing about the stage of readiness of the whole systems used(AT's and from the dude from coolaler's forum)

Ok so this is fair... but once all is set in stone, BIOS, memory, etc... a 2.6 barcey will be 30% faster than a 2.0 GHz barcey.... that we can agree upon.

But the coolaler's system is interesting to debate, even though I do agree -- there is skepticism. The CPUID behavior appears to indicate that this is DVT not EVT.

[informal]

Ok so this is fair... but once all is set in stone, BIOS, memory, etc... a 2.6 barcey will be 30% faster than a 2.0 GHz barcey.... that we can agree upon.

Finally ,agreed .

AS for the coolaler dude,the results are very strange.Don't know if he has the DVT,maybe so.But the platform he used is unknown,as well as the bios involved(i remember AnandTech said back in June,that K10 at that point needed some have bios patching in order to work).Fits perfectly with ES that were only for platform testing and not perfomance evaluation.AnandTech even got 2 samples but couldn't get them to even boot the system even after 1 month)

[mstp2009]

PS This is going nowhere, to be frank.The whole thing cannot be discussed since we actually know nothing about the stage of readiness of the whole systems used(AT's and from the dude from coolaler's forum)

Agreed, yet you keep insisting (against the limited evidence) that K10 is going to be a C2Q killer.

While we all hope that is true, if just for the sake of competition, there is no evidence to support that claim. And I believe that is the major beef that people have (unsubstantiated claims).

[JumpingJack]

Agreed, yet you keep insisting (against the limited evidence) that K10 is going to be a C2Q killer.

While we all hope that is true, if just for the sake of competition, there is no evidence to support that claim. And I believe that is the major beef that people have (unsubstantiated claims).

True -- if there is going to be a competitive Q4 and 2008 we need a good run from K10. There is so much conflicting info from hearsay to leaked benchmarks we are still pretty much in the dark.