Can AMD K10 break 30 000 in 3dmark06?

[Stapler]

Maybe there should be, maybe there shouldn't be.

Thank god we have that smiley so no one can tell what anyone means

[dinos22]

Maybe there should be, maybe there shouldn't be.

well true

i am just stating a fact he is giving the infomation as if it is dual GFX setup basically

we will wait and see for "reliable" members here to test these out

too bad AMD is too secretive and doesn't have too many ES CPUs around

[overcrash86]

I'm not going to say it's impossible but not probable. I just hope these chips don't coldbug at -25C...

integrated memory controller -> coldbug :/

[dinos22]

integrated memory controller -> coldbug :/

NOT always

we've had 130nm CPUs rememeber

also some 90nm appeared to have no bug to at least -90C

[Sampsa]

macci already knows the truth, maybe he can say yes/no

[kiwi]

Maybe soon we'll need 2 cpu and 3 gpu pots all filled with LN2

[LivingL@rGe81]

I thinks its a fickle dream of a madman !!! I think AMD need to pull something mighty big out of the bag with these chips but I don't think they will preform this well!

[nachthymnen]

I want to see the screen

[dinos22]

macci already knows the truth, maybe he can say yes/no

i'm sure he told you too

spit it out Sampsa j/k

[[XC] Oj101]

integrated memory controller -> coldbug :/

Na-uh, hypothetical example:

I have a 3000+ that cold bugs at 300mhz HT @ -100c
However, I can run @ 299MHz HT @ -100c with a 250/200 memory divider.

I've seen a couple CPUs where the memory frequency is greater than the cold bug frequency, which makes me think that it's not the memory controller.

Ok feel free to prove me wrong.

[Morais]

lol the thread question is very different than the pool ones...
Anyway, i dont know if they archieved 30k, and i think 98% of people also

[Bigchrome]

I don't believe that 2 2900s at those speeds could hit 30k sorry.

[Fixxxer]

Well... seems like people at AMD have what they wanted: people talking about them.

K10 should outperform C2D, but I don't know if it will. First of all, should eradicate the coldbug.

[naokaji]

Well... seems like people at AMD have what they wanted: people talking about them.

K10 should outperform C2D, but I don't know if it will. First of all, should eradicate the coldbug.

k10 should outperform c2d yes.... but.. intel will prolly just pull some stunt and release nehalem faster than originally planned if k10 performs unexpected good....


as for the 30k in 3dmark06....

i dont think it will happen with a k10@3ghz....

it took shamino and kinc + c2d@5,11ghz to get 27k....


that would make it more than a 50% clock per clock performance difference from c2d to k10.... and i dont think that will happen....

[cadaveca]

Enough crap. Let's show the official spokespeople.


AMD's Quads to outperform Intel's by over 40%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_n3wvsfq4Y



3GHZ demo is TRIFIRE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7EZmYth6TM



EDIT TO FIX FIRST LINK

[T_M]

I dont see any mention in the second link regarding 3DMark'06 or 30k

[kemo]

Enough crap. Let's show the official spokespeople.


AMD's Quads to outperform Intel's by over 40%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_n3wvsfq4Y



3GHZ demo is TRIFIRE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7EZmYth6TM



EDIT TO FIX FIRST LINK

that make me ask two question
1) drivers good enough for low resolution benching ?
20 how good they are for gaming ?

remember the quad SLI

[cadaveca]

that make me ask two question
1) drivers good enough for low resolution benching ?

Drivers are always optimized for benching as of late, it seems. I've got a few 2900XT systems, XP, Vista, 32-bit and 64, and in most scenarios, having a second card merely hampers performance(except in benches). We don't see this in the popular benches as the driver team quite obviously has spent a considerable AMT of time making these apps work very well.

2) how good they are for gaming ?

remember the quad SLI

Yes, i do, and see above. Part of the problem with quadSLi, IMHO, was the platform it was on, as well as some really intense driver issues. Vista allows this to be overcome, but seemingly each app must be coded for within the driver for multi-gpu rendering to take full advantage of the gpu power. Seems purely the fault of M$, but of course, you need some good programmers for your drivers too...

With that in mind, and knowing how much power these cards draw(or how much they aren't sucking up, and how far they really are from the max they CAN draw), I truly feel that there's more to these cards, and the 8800's than meets the eye. I do reemmber something a long time ago about both R600 and g80 liking about 150mhz pci-e, and I'm sure if you talk to the "TOP benchers", they'll confirm that these cards behave as I imply.


Now, I think, really, that if 2900's can reach 30k, than so can 8800's...i look at this situation as a platform presentation, not just cpu, video, or whatever... mere 15% gains in each area(cpu, video, mobo) make for some really signifigant gains overall.

[Rovtar]

no way...

[NH|Delph1]

Not impossible, just very hard to believe (very, very, very, very, very, very, hard).

//Andreas

[KTE]

Enough crap. Let's show the official spokespeople.


AMD's Quads to outperform Intel's by over 40%

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_n3wvsfq4Y



3GHZ demo is TRIFIRE:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7EZmYth6TM

You missed the latest and more proper one.

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.a...tno=434&pgno=0

[celerity]

I love this part

"The pics are gone with my stolen laptop, though."

[BeardyMan]

It's most likely true.

I remember fanboy also trolling about 8800 and it's gigantic leap in performance..
at the end their buts got nailed but the impressive results...

[AliG]

I say no, even if k10 is 40% faster than kentsfield, it would need to be at at least 3ghz just to keep pace with shamino's 27k record with the 5.1ghz kentsfield. For amd to hit 30k, they would have to either make it scale even better, or hit higher clockspeeds, which I do not feel is possible with their soi process, imo they're very lucky to hit 3ghz in the first place. And all of this is assuming k10 is 40% faster clock:clock than kentsfield, that may be false and mean even higher clockspeeds

[AliG]

It's most likely true.

I remember fanboy also trolling about 8800 and it's gigantic leap in performance..
at the end their buts got nailed but the impressive results...

but theinquirer has never been a complete amd fan site like amdzone, and the fact that no reputable site like vr-zone or someone like coolaler hasn't posted the same info makes it hard to believe. And don't forget, there was tons of hype for the r600 which none of which was true.

And all of that is just logitech, take a look at my previous post and think, is it really possible? Not to mention, when he oc'd the cpu from 2.5ghz to 3ghz, he got a 26% performance increase while the clockspeed increased by only 20%. Unless you can prove to me that k10 scales better than 100% in 3dmark06, I'm calling bs.

perhaps he actually was robbed if this article is true, but last time I checked only shamino and kinc were robbed
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=41909