AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06 (Inq)

[doompc]

DDR800 with a 3000MHz K8?
*cough* DDR750MHz *cough*

Are there non-integer dividers on K10?

K10 has Full Async IMC, just like the RD600. You say 400MHz it does 400MHz (or 401MHz, 402MHz...) no matter the CPU Clock.

[Jamesrt2004]

K10 has Full Async IMC, just like the RD600. You say 400MHz it does 400MHz (or 401MHz, 402MHz...) no matter the CPU Clock.

WOW that could be a really good advantage to OC wif lower poop value ram that i buy lol

[Movieman]

Put's mod hat on while shaking head:
Gentlemen:
I just check my mail and 4 people have reported different posts here.
Same old thing..The AMD guys and the Intel guys at one another again.
Why guys? Most of you appear to be way too smart for this so why fight over what is really a little thing?
If they believe the AMD will do 30K then fine, thats someone's opinion..

Sounds really high to me personally as didn't I just read that Kinc and Shamino did 27,000 at app 5000mhz on an Intel?
30,000 on air at 3000mhz on the AMD sounds awefully high wouldn't you agree?
Now I'm far from any expert on 3DMark but thats common sense speaking.
The only thing I ask of you is that before you post, look at the post and read it as if your in the "other" side of this issue and don't attack individuals.
Calling someone an idiot or a retard just because they disagree with you is a slam against yourself not them..
Keep a perspective please..
Last: Aren't we supposed to be friends here sharing a hobby that we all love?

[FlawleZ]

Put's mod hat on while shaking head:
Gentlemen:
I just check my mail and 4 people have reported different posts here.
Same old thing..The AMD guys and the Intel guys at one another again.
Why guys? Most of you appear to be way too smart for this so why fight over what is really a little thing?
If they believe the AMD will do 30K then fine, thats someone's opinion..

Sounds really high to me personally as didn't I just read that Kinc and Shamino did 27,000 at app 5000mhz on an Intel?
30,000 on air at 3000mhz on the AMD sounds awefully high wouldn't you agree?
Now I'm far from any expert on 3DMark but thats common sense speaking.
The only thing I ask of you is that before you post, look at the post and read it as if your in the "other" side of this issue and don't attack individuals.
Calling someone an idiot or a retard just because they disagree with you is a slam against yourself not them..
Keep a perspective please..
Last: Aren't we supposed to be friends here sharing a hobby that we all love?

QFT.

And Craptacular, this is one of those times where you observe, absorb, and ignore. Your argument is a proven fact and is 100% true, while his is a matter of opinion and skepticism that is needless. At any rate, neither of you are going to budge so just forget about it...

[hipro5]

Put's mod hat on while shaking head:
Calling someone an idiot or a retard

OFF Topic: Educationaly, what does "retard" means?....

[CraptacularOne]

OFF Topic: Educationaly, what does "retard" means?....

lol...

re·tard /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈri-tɑrd for 4/[ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4]

1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object)
2. to be delayed.
–noun
3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4. Slang: Disparaging.
a. a mentally retarded person.
b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

[Aussie FX]

lol...

re·tard /rɪˈtɑrd, for 1–3, 5; ˈri-tɑrd for 4/[ri-tahrd, for 1–3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4]

1. to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
–verb (used without object)
2. to be delayed.
–noun
3. a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance, as in a machine.
4. Slang: Disparaging.
a. a mentally retarded person.
b. a person who is stupid, obtuse, or ineffective in some way: a hopeless social retard.
5. Automotive, Machinery. an adjustment made in the setting of the distributor of an internal-combustion engine so that the spark for ignition in each cylinder is generated later in the cycle.

You forgot number 6. So I will fill it in for you.

6. CraptacularOne.

People like you are the reason I don't visit this forum much these days.

Bye.

[Movieman]

You forgot number 6. So I will fill it in for you.

6. CraptacularOne.

People like you are the reason I don't visit this forum much these days.

Bye.

And I will give you an infraction for not listening when someone nicely asks that the personal attacks stop..Keep it up and we can make it a vacation.
Thanks for reading!

[Donnie27]

And I will give you an infraction for not listening when someone nicely asks that the personal attacks stop..Keep it up and we can make it a vacation.
Thanks for reading!

Eactly why I stayed the heck out of this one.

[largon]

K10 has Full Async IMC, (...)

Link?
If this were true...

[doompc]

Link?
If this were true...

I went to the Barcelona presentation and asked directly to the presenter about this. He confirmed the integer divider limitations were solved.

I'm prety sure we'll have 1MHz step memory clock adjustment all the way up to about 750MHz (DDR2-1400).

Also, the IMC received a deep upgrade (larger write bufer, dual channel is now two independent 64bit channels, DDR2-1066 official support, the data path to the northbridge was extended to 128 bits, and so on).

30k still seems unreal, but I think it will be at least 10% faster per clock than Penryn in general application, and way more in highly multithreaded workloads.

[Donnie27]

I went to the Barcelona presentation and asked directly to the presenter about this. He confirmed the integer divider limitations were solved.

Means absolutely nothing. Most of us don't believe anything Intel or AMD says without proof.

I'm prety sure we'll have 1MHz step memory clock adjustment all the way up to about 750MHz (DDR2-1400).

Also, the IMC received a deep upgrade (larger write bufer, dual channel is now two independent 64bit channels, DDR2-1066 official support, the data path to the northbridge was extended to 128 bits, and so on).

30k still seems unreal, but I think it will be at least 10% faster per clock than Penryn in general application, and way more in highly multithreaded workloads.

3DMarks has always proven its uselessness for anything other than like platform stability testing and etc..... Since it doesn't correlate to any real-world game/s, trying to use it as a standard is misleading to say the least. Please note, I said the same thing when P4 was winning*.

How much faster is K10? I don't think there will be a single Performance number advantage. Some apps it might be 25% faster, other apps might show it as being 20% slower.

[xenolith]

Hmmm...

K10 x RD790 x X2900XT CF x engineered and optimizated from the ground up within one Co. that has a proven track record for innovation = 30K 3DMark06? It's not impossible!

Hey... get away from my dream... it's all mine... *walks away laughing sinisterly*

[T2k]

Hmmm...

K10 x RD790 x X2900XT CF x engineered and optimizated from the ground up within one Co. that has a proven track record for innovation = 30K 3DMark06? It's not impossible!

Hey... get away from my dream... it's all mine... *walks away laughing sinisterly*

2900 has almost literally NOTHING to do with AMD. Its design stems from former ATI and was done well before the merge.

[T2k]

And you just bought yourself a 3 day vacation for your nasty mouth.
Enjoy!

I'm actually now more interested in their implementation of more than 2 GPUs in Crossfire. Since Nvidia's Quad SLI was a bust. Maybe they have figured out a better way to distribute the load between the GPUs than Nvidia did.

Wow, these XtremeDays go fast.

[xenolith]

2900 has almost literally NOTHING to do with AMD. Its design stems from former ATI and was done well before the merge.

Designs go through several iterations before production. Still, point taken.

[Sparky]

K10 has Full Async IMC, just like the RD600. You say 400MHz it does 400MHz (or 401MHz, 402MHz...) no matter the CPU Clock.

This makes me happy Since I tend to be a bit cheap on the memory side of things