AMD's 3GHz K10 to break 30,000 3DMark06 (Inq)

[jabway]

It could explain why AMD isn't ramping up clockspeeds as high as possible.

[Marduk_25]

Very unlikely (to say the least), expecially after comparing the system with what Shamino and Kinc used. Ah wait, comparing seems a little exagerated cause we only have proof from Shamino and Kinc and nothing on AMD's 'record breaking' system. There is a song in here somewhere..

[kemo]

How about highly improbable, but it is possible.

No way that a dual 2900XT @ 830/900will break 30,000 even in the next 5 years


2.5GHz = 23.768 and 3GHZ = 30,000 ,,,,,,,,,, wake up

[K404]

one word "impossible"

Why? have you forgot about the massive bench result jumps when C2D started out?

[sarcasm] I forgot, AMD could never do anything that brilliant [/sarcasm]

it seems pretty ambitious, but Im not complaining if its true

[berk]

Complete bollocks.
AMD would never hold this type of info back with their financial circumstances as they are.

[XS2K]

Ok so let me understand 30.031 with the CPU @ 3Ghz and the cards @ 830-900 and 23.768 with the CPU @ 2.5Ghz and the cards @ the same clockspeed... O'rly

BTW: I have 3DMARK06 screens with my Nehalem but they are on my stolen PDA
Anyway I hope for it to be true....

Damn:kemo6600 beat me to it

[Sheik]

3DMark06 at 640x480 maybe

[kemo]

Why? have you forgot about the massive bench result jumps when C2D started out?

[sarcasm] I forgot, AMD could never do anything that brilliant [/sarcasm]

it seems pretty ambitious, but Im not complaining if its true

i didn't forget anything , but 30K is very optimistic especially when it will become GPU limited and a 20% increase in CPU power wont make a 30% 3D difference ,,, not on earth at least

[zaarath]

Yeah that's right, in a graphic benchmark we somehow got

K10@3.0G + 2900XT CF@830/900 = 30000
C2Q@5.1G + 2900XT CF@1175/950 = 27000

Looks like AMD's 40% claim is way too conservative.
Can people get a little bit more about a thing that called "reality"?

[RPGWiZaRD]

2.5GHz = 23.768 and 3GHZ = 30,000 ,,,,,,,,,, wake up

My first thoughts too. Cuz of that I see this article as BS. If it was 1.8GHz and 3GHz then maybe but such big increase for 500MHz CPU clock speed bump, NAAAAHH.

EDIT: nvm seems like 23k was with 2900XT at default. OK then it's somewhat plausible.

[v_rr]

Ok so let me understand 30.031 with the CPU @ 3Ghz and the cards @ 830-900 and 23.768 with the CPU @ 2.5Ghz and the cards @ the same clockspeed... O'rly

If you read carrefaul you will notice that de 23K were taken with HD 2900 XT at default.

The one explanation that I have is that the RD790 with PCI-e 2.0 can make a big diference in conjuntion with the K10.

[VIctorj]

What a shame...those pics are gone with his laptop...coincidence anyone?

There is NO WAY that thing scores 30k on 3mk06, not with shamino and kinc scoring 27k with ln2 and stuff like that...for christ sake guys...get real.
Its like having a 7ghz kentsfield. LOL

EDIT: No, im no intel fanboy...i use whatever has the performance to kick any other PC around...in this case i call BS.

[CraptacularOne]

INQ for tech reports huh?...lol....That's like getting your daily news from the Globe tabloids.....
Here read up on current events...lol
http://www.globemagazine.com/

It's no different than the BS the INQ posts up most of the time....

[kemo]

If you read carrefaul you will notice that de 23K were taken with HD 2900 XT at default.

The one explanation that I have is that the RD790 with PCI-e 2.0 can make a big diference in conjuntion with the K10.

or the inq post BS as always

[Shintai]

A few oddies...

25% more 3Dmark06 with 20% more CPU clockspeed.

3.24GB in Vista. That means no remapping is done. (Odd on such a new system). Unlike XP32, 32bit Vista dont need to take the reserved space from the artificial limit of 4GB.


Also looking on the very recent scores from kinc and shamino.
3DMark Score 26454 3DMarks (2900XT CF@1175/950MHz)
SM 2.0 Score 10581 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 11798 Marks
CPU Score 8090 Marks (5119Mhz Core 2 Quad)

So we have to assume the SM2 and SM3 scores will be lower with the slower cards used. even with kinc/shaminos 100Mhz higher clocked 2900XTs, they would have to score a CPU score of 21000. Or about the same as a 12½Ghz Core 2 Quad.

[flopper]

new cpu with new chipsets still to add to 12ghz conroe seems way out of the league.

september is just around the corner tho.
waiting...

[railer]

I really hope this would be true. Competition is good.......... And INq hehe plz half of the stuff they post is crap

[DilTech]

What a shame...those pics are gone with his laptop...coincidence anyone?

There is NO WAY that thing scores 30k on 3mk06, not with shamino and kinc scoring 27k with ln2 and stuff like that...for christ sake guys...get real.
Its like having a 7ghz kentsfield. LOL

EDIT: No, im no intel fanboy...i use whatever has the performance to kick any other PC around...in this case i call BS.

Ok, I'm not believing this article either, but for the "impossible" guys I'm just going to come out and say...

Remember when the C2D came out? Remember how difficult it was to even hit 20k in 05 at that time? C2D came out, and people were beating the extreme cooled A64 results on air without even trying.

So is this impossible? No, it's not. Is it true? Possibly, possibly not.

p.s.
Shintai, we cannot fully assume that the gpu scores would be lower. Different platform, and IIRC in CF SM3 is VERY cpu limited and as such scales VERY well with cpu speed.

[CraptacularOne]

A few oddies...

25% more 3Dmark06 with 20% more CPU clockspeed.

3.24GB in Vista. That means no remapping is done. (Odd on such a new system). Unlike XP32, 32bit Vista dont need to take the reserved space from the artificial limit of 4GB.


Also looking on the very recent scores from kinc and shamino.
3DMark Score 26454 3DMarks (2900XT CF@1175/950MHz)
SM 2.0 Score 10581 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 11798 Marks
CPU Score 8090 Marks (5119Mhz Core 2 Quad)

So we have to assume the SM2 and SM3 scores will be lower with the slower cards used. even with kinc/shaminos 100Mhz higher clocked 2900XTs, they would have to score a CPU score of 21000. Or about the same as a 12½Ghz Core 2 Quad.

Your right, you'd need a CPU score of 20,595 to be exact in order to get a 30,031 score in 06. And as you said that is with their higher clocks on the card. I seriously doubt that this new processor alone is going to out score peoples entire systems.

[gillll]

might be full quad cpu ? not a single core like they'd said ?

[Jamesrt2004]

A few oddies...

25% more 3Dmark06 with 20% more CPU clockspeed.

3.24GB in Vista. That means no remapping is done. (Odd on such a new system). Unlike XP32, 32bit Vista dont need to take the reserved space from the artificial limit of 4GB.


Also looking on the very recent scores from kinc and shamino.
3DMark Score 26454 3DMarks (2900XT CF@1175/950MHz)
SM 2.0 Score 10581 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 11798 Marks
CPU Score 8090 Marks (5119Mhz Core 2 Quad)

So we have to assume the SM2 and SM3 scores will be lower with the slower cards used. even with kinc/shaminos 100Mhz higher clocked 2900XTs, they would have to score a CPU score of 21000. Or about the same as a 12½Ghz Core 2 Quad.

hmm true valid point lol

[trans am]

if its true then this is great news! If it's not true then what the hell. nobody died.

[informal]

Ok, I'm not believing this article either, but for the "impossible" guys I'm just going to come out and say...

Remember when the C2D came out? Remember how difficult it was to even hit 20k in 05 at that time? C2D came out, and people were beating the extreme cooled A64 results on air without even trying.

So is this impossible? No, it's not. Is it true? Possibly, possibly not.

p.s.
Shintai, we cannot fully assume that the gpu scores would be lower. Different platform, and IIRC in CF SM3 is VERY cpu limited and as such scales VERY well with cpu speed.

QFT

Also very interesting comments from the altest TechArp article:

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=434

John says the Quad-Core Opteron systems had already been submitted to the benchmark organizations for testing. The results are all under NDA and will only be released on launch date, September 10, 2007. Because they are under NDA, he cannot reveal the actual results, but he gave us some interesting indications of how the Barcelona will eventually fare against an equivalent Intel processor.[

* 20-30% better performance overall
* 170% better performance in some benchmarks

Lats bit of information actually supports the Theo's leaked information on the mark06 amazing score.

[DilTech]

might be full quad cpu ? not a single core like they'd said ?

The first mention of single core was a typo, later on he says single socket(remember, the FX chips are now made for the 4x4 platform). It's pretty obvious he meant single socket the first time.

[CraptacularOne]

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Remember when the C2D came out? Remember how difficult it was to even hit 20k in 05 at that time? C2D came out, and people were beating the extreme cooled A64 results on air without even trying.

Yes but you are talking about a AMD X2 at 3Ghz being roughly equal to a 2.4Ghz C2D. That is entirely plausible, but a C2D at over 5Ghz not being equal to a 3Ghz K-10? Not happening.