MSI P35 Neo2 *First look i think*

[Pete]

MSI teaching overclocking!!!

I just installed a full XP now mods, 2006 Build, no updates!

Only Chipsets, GFX, 2.0 Net fix have been installed

Rig is

E6600 Lapped
X1900XTX CF
GTX>Pa120.3>DDC2 Alphacool res & Top, Yate loon x3
PC+P510w PSU
Cell Shock PC8500 2GB
Dell 2005FPW

This had been sat in customs for 2 weeks judging by dates on packing! Was sent it by a mistery lady called XXXX

Bord has lots and lots of LEDS and very colorfull!

Photos of it in my half assed setup, bench table has been delayed and still unsure on case so Azza (CPC) case it is!













^ Everything in BIOS was loaded at optimised defualts. Under SUPER PI CPU was @ 2.4ghz not whats shown as BIOS controls of Speedstep and Eist and D.O.T Control took over after load passes.

Right on with clocking the beast



2nd go, bang in at 400FSB



Oh all RAM timings there are by SPD!!! Not one touch yet by me! STD shipping bios too.

Need more cooling, some Vmods to least see whats really going on volt wise

Thats the max i have gotten so far. WC kit need to settle in a bit i think, i need to understand more on what i am doing and defo RAM as i have no idea!

PSU im awaiting a PC+P 750w quad CF cert to come in.
XP i need to make a new benching version, sub 100mb.
PCI GFX card only as will make things a bit faster!

Im happy with it so far, to boot into 400 and 412 out the box is good. My P5W DH Deluxe with mods doesn't at all go past 400 via BIOS.

One feature which i found odd but intresting with the mobo, it will keep trying to boot even if it fails. Im sure this will prove self desructive soon but time will tell.

Right lets find a new BIOS

Anyone eles that wants to help please do.

Pete

[Pete]

Sorry for crapness, new camera is on it's way!

They all change as and when you boot, re-boot, and other things. Probs mean something but i dont care!

[Grinch]

cool review...what new camera do you have coming?

[Pete]

cool review...what new camera do you have coming?

Not too bad eh for my first. Just glad i can help here with it!

I have an Olympus E-500 and a ton of kit coming this Saturday if postman is right...



All that is mine on Saturday, whoooo. Currently using a Canon Powershot S2 IS thats been flashed and with a UV hood and lens.

Google needs more info on DRR2 RAM timings and the manual does as well, i am so confused. Guess i will have to play with it and see what works and doesn't! Grr

[monza1412]

nice setup you got there congratulations.
Could you show us some memset screenies at 400 with different memory dividers?

[clon22]

Hey, I have this board too.
Using a Q6600 on it now.
Its not bad, not to mention it has some cool lights too.
Cheap too.
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=174278

Its a bit messy. :p

[Grinch]

Not too bad eh for my first. Just glad i can help here with it!

I have an Olympus E-500 and a ton of kit coming this Saturday if postman is right...



All that is mine on Saturday, whoooo. Currently using a Canon Powershot S2 IS thats been flashed and with a UV hood and lens.

Google needs more info on DRR2 RAM timings and the manual does as well, i am so confused. Guess i will have to play with it and see what works and doesn't! Grr

gotta love dslr's....

I have a Canon EOS 30D and a Canon Rebel XTI...

if you get bored and want to see some of the pics I have been taking with these 2 cameras go here:
http://www.pbase.com/grinchy247

[nzbleach]

the heatpipes ruin what looks to be a great board.

[Pete]

nice setup you got there congratulations.
Could you show us some memset screenies at 400 with different memory dividers?

I can't find a memset that works. Can ya help?

Hey, I have this board too.
Using a Q6600 on it now.
Its not bad, not to mention it has some cool lights too.
Cheap too.
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=174278

Its a bit messy. :p[/IMG]

Dude, i will be needing your help.

the heatpipes ruin what looks to be a great board.

Yeah and no, there is an 8 pin thing on there, 2 ports are covered to only use a 4 pin. It's righ under the 2 heatpipes and is a PITA to fit!

[Pete]

I found the new Memset for P35's, seams to be the final build so i shall give it ago inabit as i have things to do. MSI shoow the bord doing 500FSB, i have seen one other doing 479fsb.

We shall see. Might try and see what this multi option really does in bios if it will change it or not hehe

[jarman]

i hear in places that the MSI board is not the best for overclocking?

[Leeghoofd]

That last comment was surely true for the M6N Diamond version, prolly due to bad bios design... I think the regular NEO is not so good at overclocking, this one could rival the P5K vanilla...

Keep us posted Pete

[Pete]

Grr i think i can only update bios via the net which has got to suck, anyone know any differnt time for an update i think

[tormentor22]

nice mobo, but is there any real diff. between the NEO2-FR\FIR and the Platinium version, forget about the circuit pipe and optical audio, i dont really car for the last, but i mean a difference in overclocking capability/ performance and such things..
im going to a new mobo from msi and im confused which is better in performance, since as i noticed that on the mobo pic. at msi site u can read "P35 Platinium" on what is supposed the P35 Neo2, so does that mean they are actually the same layout??

[Pete]

It's way better than my Asus P5W DH so far! 412fsb right in there. I guess it's only bord options on differnt models etc.

The heatpipes could be better and not sure what aftermarkt cooling will replace but it's cheap and does go some.

[Pete]

Was told this CPU did 3.8 Super PI and alast i have gotten it there! I've still yet to play with timings, thats still set by SPD.

I also did this only 1 X1900XTX in being the master.

Ordering my new PSU tonight 750w should help loads! Finaly they are in the UK

[.devastatioN]

Set CAS manually, SPD timings sucks :P Nice review.

[Pete]

Set CAS manually, SPD timings sucks :P Nice review.

Please read topics and posts. I got no idea what i am doing on RAM timings what so ever!

I also need volt mods as i am not sure how good the bord is at all

[tormentor22]

Well i dont want to go off topic, but this doesnt need a seperate thread...
is the combo such as the platinum combo version as good as the usual version?

[Pete]

Well i dont want to go off topic, but this doesnt need a seperate thread...
is the combo such as the platinum combo version as good as the usual version?

It's a differnt mobo.

Same chipset

Same could be said for all the Asus P5 ! The all the 965, 975 and then X38

[Pete]

3.9Ghz and 13.000 Super PI

Hitting max of my CPU now. Time to fanny with the multi hehehe

[monza1412]

I was doing some quick benchs just to compare the memset scenario.
This was done with a Asus P5KD. I only adjust the first 4 parameters of the memory, the others were set at AUTO.
The command rate was set to 2T.

This is with Transaction booster DISABLED(relax 0)/Dram Static Read Control DISABLED. (Worst scenario)

And this was done with Transaction booster AUTO/Dram Static Read Control AUTO. (Best scenario)



As you see in my best SPD scenario, my performance level is the same as yours, but the others subtimings are to high in your motherboard .
Does MSI give you access to subtimings configuration in bios?


By the way, nice spi... keep pushing

[Pete]

I still have not touched any timings all still by SPD!

Yeah MSI gies me tons of options in BIOS. I will get photos tormrow as now i go bed and sleep all the beer off form the 3 day weekend!

[StealthyFish]

i hear in places that the MSI board is not the best for overclocking?

... well, it depends. I believe the Neo 865P motherboards were kick ass, but then was followed by a disappointing neo 965P which couldn't overclock for crap, and now this .this doesn't look that bad. =)

[clon22]

I still have not touched any timings all still by SPD!

Yeah MSI gies me tons of options in BIOS. I will get photos tormrow as now i go bed and sleep all the beer off form the 3 day weekend!

Yo, Hows it going?
Wow, 3.9.
But i'm on a Q6600 currently.
Memset works for me too.