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    Disable QFan.

    Only Chassis Fans 1-3 can be controlled and all three fans are controlled by a single setting, I believe it's Speed04. The CPU fan needs to be PWM to be controllable.

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    aledsav1: Looks like you're going to need some PC2-8500 to get the most out of your E6750. This stuff is rated to 533 MHz so with an 8X multi your CPU will be able to run at full speed without your memory holding it back.

    The Intel P965 and P35 chipsets can only run your memory at a minimum of 1:1. Nvidia chipsets can let you run your memory at a fixed value of DDR2-800 but there are not too many boards with Nvidia chipsets that can overclock effortlessly to 500 MHz and beyond the way the Intel P965 and P35 chipset can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unclewebb View Post
    aledsav1: Looks like you're going to need some PC2-8500 to get the most out of your E6750. This stuff is rated to 533 MHz so with an 8X multi your CPU will be able to run at full speed without your memory holding it back.

    The Intel P965 and P35 chipsets can only run your memory at a minimum of 1:1. Nvidia chipsets can let you run your memory at a fixed value of DDR2-800 but there are not too many boards with Nvidia chipsets that can overclock effortlessly to 500 MHz and beyond the way the Intel P965 and P35 chipset can.
    Many thanks at last a answer that gives me the insight i was lacking.....though id sort of come to the same conclusion without the tech detail....so iv been on the lookout for some 8500.....once again ta.
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    Hello,

    I just put my conroe system back together a few days ago and its been running great, however the last 24 hours something strange has been going on?

    I was sitting doing my surfing and the screen went black, almost like the power-saving kicking in any I wiggled the mouse and a moment later the picture came back?

    Just a few hours ago the same thing happened but this time the screen stayed blank and I had to restart the machine.

    Upon reboot it went:

    BEEEEEEEEP . . . . . . . beep, beep, beep (thats one long beep and three short beeps) then switched off again, then rebooted and went all the way to windows.

    What do these beeps mean please?

    Once in windows I had the feeling that something wasn't quite right so I unistalled the drivers and tried the newer versions (CAT 7.8) however things still seemed a bit sluggish on the desktop so I opened CPU-z for a peek. . .



    It seems my PCI-E had set itself to 1x which is something I did read about 6 months ago but it never happened to me before. I restarted the machine a few times and it didn't go away, I had a look in BIOS and everything seemed in order. I then decided to shutdown the machine and give it a minute to rest. Upon reboot the PCI-E setting had corrected itself (back to x16).

    I've used this puter for 7 months at least and never had this happen before. As I said I did rebuild it a few days ago and added in a Creative X-Fi XtremeGamer but apart from that nothing has changed?

    I'm running:

    ASUS P5B-Deluxe
    Core 2 Duo E6300 : 2800MHz (7x400)
    Crucial tenth anniversary sticks (2x1GB)
    Powercolour 512MB Radeon X1950XT
    Antec Truepower TRIO 500w

    All the volts are on manual/minimum except vCore which is 1.3250v and NBCore which is 1.45v (purple).

    Its been ok for the past few hours and I have since re-seated the card.

    I know this has happened to people before but I cant remember the fix? should I change my PCI-E Freq from 100Mhz to 101Mhz or what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big.Wayne View Post
    All the volts are on manual/minimum except vCore which is 1.3250v and NBCore which is 1.45v (purple).

    Its been ok for the past few hours and I have since re-seated the card.

    I know this has happened to people before but I cant remember the fix? should I change my PCI-E Freq from 100Mhz to 101Mhz or what?
    Some people report success upping the PCI-E Freq. Only taking it down worked for me - stable for 2 months at 98 (again some report requiring it as low as 96). And keep the NBCore at 1.45v.

    Hope it works for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Snutt View Post
    Some people report success upping the PCI-E Freq. Only taking it down worked for me - stable for 2 months at 98 (again some report requiring it as low as 96). And keep the NBCore at 1.45v.
    Thanks for the reply,

    Yes I did read through this whole thread and others when I first setup the board but I cant quite remember what the issue was, now there are so many thousands of posts in this thread its a daunting prospect to sift through them

    Why did you stipulate to keep the NBCore at 1.45v?

    Also have u got any idea what the beeps mean? I have had this before with various Radeon cards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big.Wayne View Post
    Why did you stipulate to keep the NBCore at 1.45v?

    Also have u got any idea what the beeps mean? I have had this before with various Radeon cards?
    From what I have read on various fora, it seems to be the combination of PCI-E and NBCore that provides the stability and the 1.45v provides the best chance of stability; changing either can throw it off again. It also seems that the PCI-E setting that provides stability may vary from board to board to it's a case of find the one that works for you. 98 and 1.45v work for me so I am keeping them locked down.

    As for the beeps, I have found only on reference to that combination on Tom's which suggests re-seating the graphics card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by accord99 View Post
    Disable QFan.
    done that. No go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashakos View Post
    done that. No go.
    I'm currently running 4.33 beta 9 quite successfully on the P5B Dlx Wifi App. As has already been mentioned, there are only 2 independent speed controllers on this board: one for the CPU (as long as you are using a CPU fan with a 4-pin header e.g. stock with most CPU's) and a second which controls all fans connected to connectors CHA-FAN 1 to CHA-FAN 3. This second one is controlled by the Speed04 setting. So, your thermal monitors need to be set to control Speed04 and the fans that you want to control need to be connected to the CHA-FAN 1, 2 or 3 connectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Snutt View Post
    I'm currently running 4.33 beta 9 quite successfully on the P5B Dlx Wifi App. As has already been mentioned, there are only 2 independent speed controllers on this board: one for the CPU (as long as you are using a CPU fan with a 4-pin header e.g. stock with most CPU's) and a second which controls all fans connected to connectors CHA-FAN 1 to CHA-FAN 3. This second one is controlled by the Speed04 setting. So, your thermal monitors need to be set to control Speed04 and the fans that you want to control need to be connected to the CHA-FAN 1, 2 or 3 connectors.
    * checks manual * now that's just great! The loudest 120mm fan I have has a short wire that can only be connected to either CHA_FAN2 or CHA_FAN4.
    Guess I have to open up the case to check where it's connected...

    thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't have found out this is the way the P5B was designed otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashakos View Post
    * checks manual * now that's just great! The loudest 120mm fan I have has a short wire that can only be connected to either CHA_FAN2 or CHA_FAN4.
    Guess I have to open up the case to check where it's connected...

    thanks for the heads up, I wouldn't have found out this is the way the P5B was designed otherwise.
    No probs.

    I've found the 4.33 beta indicates both cores on my E6400 running at the same temp whereas the older version suggested that Core 1 was 2 deg C cooler than Core 0.
    Also the speed control of the beta works better than the earlier version on this board. I have set min speed = 50% (Noctua fans don't turn at all at less than this) and max speed = 100%. The earlier version tended to switch from the min to the max settings but the 4.33 will hold them at an in-between value (60% or 80%) if that's all that's needed. Makes for a much quieter box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Snutt View Post
    one for the CPU (as long as you are using a CPU fan with a 4-pin header e.g. stock with most CPU's)
    I have a 120mm Sharkoon '2000' cooling my processor and three 80mm Sharkoon '2000' cooling the chassis.

    The 80mm fans are being slowed down by the Q-Fan thing to about 1300rpm which makes them all pretty quiet, however the 120mm fan always runs at full blast?

    All the fans are three pin so I wonder why Q-Fan can't work its magic on the CPU fan?

    I see it has a 4-pin header (PWM) connection but that should make the Q-Fan work a bit more accurately than a 3-pin, it shouldn't mean a 3-pin can't have its speeds adjusted at all?

    Anyone got a 3-pin fan to work with Q-Fan on the CPU header?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big.Wayne View Post
    All the fans are three pin so I wonder why Q-Fan can't work its magic on the CPU fan?

    I see it has a 4-pin header (PWM) connection but that should make the Q-Fan work a bit more accurately than a 3-pin, it shouldn't mean a 3-pin can't have its speeds adjusted at all?

    Anyone got a 3-pin fan to work with Q-Fan on the CPU header?
    Bad news, I'm afraid. The CPU fan can be controlled ONLY via the 4th pin. If you want to control the speed of your 3-pin CPU fan then you will have to connect it to one of the CHA-FAN 1, 2 or 3 connectors and set BIOS to ignore the CPU fan warning. This is how I am running the 120mm Noctua on my Scythe Ninja cooler. I haven't tried this with Q-fan running as I let Speedfan control it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Snutt View Post
    Bad news, I'm afraid
    Yup I realised that about 6 months ago, just wanted to find out why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Snutt View Post
    I haven't tried this with Q-fan running as I let Speedfan control it all.
    Thats cool? you use Speedfan to control the case fans? didn't think of that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big.Wayne View Post
    Yup I realised that about 6 months ago, just wanted to find out why?

    Thats cool? you use Speedfan to control the case fans? didn't think of that
    Why comes from the different methods of speed control between 3 and 4 wire fans. 3-wire fans are controlled by varying the effective voltage on the 12V wire (usually by PWM). A 4-wire fan has the 12V wire tied to the 12V supply and the control is managed internally within its associated electronics according to the signal input on the 4th wire.

    I'm lucky with my Antec P180 case and Ninja cooler that I can fit a 120mm fan on the Ninja to pull air across the RAM and then across the CPU and there is a rear case fan directly in line to take the air out of the case. So by using Speedfan to control these 2 fans depending on the Core 0 and Core 1 temps the whole system is suitably ventilated.

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