**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[hansbroken]

I like this Board! Priming at 3600mhz when I could not even boot at 3360ghz on EVGA 680i A1

Sorry to be off topic. However..

Brother Esau: What do you think of that 'CoolIt Eliminator'? What kind of temps are you getting with it (idle and load) on this MB w/ the new Q6600 G0 at 3600mhz (And if you can recall, how was it with the B3 you had a 3360mhz)?

Also, how is the noise at full load?

Just curious ... As I have been looking at "Free Zone" for a while now -- as well as the more recent release (well, semi recent anyway) of the less expensive 'Eliminator' version.

I think it is an interesting concept. However, when it 1st came out, I always wished they had designed this with a 120mm fan over the 92mm.

Thanks!

[Brother Esau]

The CoolIT Eliminator is a excellent cooler @ 3.2ghz I idle at 30-31c under load 66c same Clock 8rs Prime95 For the price I got a very good one that works very well the only draw back though is that it installs in you're rear exhaust fan opening and hence it becomes a closed system. The cooler really excels at Dual core cooling my E6420 @ 3.5ghz idle 23c load full tilt Prime95 47c

[alucardx]

droop mod here

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...6&postcount=39

picture of hard mod that i did

http://www.bleedinedge.com/forum/sho...4&postcount=14

any idea if this works on IP35-E and IP35?

[alucardx]

hmm lol wonder if those new realtek lan drivers would have fixed my lan dying out of suspend mode all the time. Ohwell i bought a cheapo pcie x1 rosewill, it actually works very well, cpu usage is only 2% while transfering large amounts of data over my network. Although thats at 100/mb, iam to ghetto for gigabit yet

do you use Vista? There was 2 much talked about hotfixes that came out in August, one of them fixes this.

[shimmishim]

any idea if this works on IP35-E and IP35?

from what i understand, the layout is a little different on the -e and non-pro versions... but i have no idea... to be safe.. i say no

[Ace-a-Rue]

Question to Ace-a-Rue (or anyone else that remounted the heatpipe cooling on this MB for the chipset etc..)

I'm waiting on my IP-35Pro to arrive. And I am planning on remounting the heatpipe cooling on this board as per your guide. However, I don't have much in my inventory for 40mm fans. I do have one 40mm x 20mm. But, it looks like you are using 40mm x 10mm fans. Will a 40mm x 20mm fan be too thick? I am going with the same heat sink (TR 120 Extreme) BTW.

I cannot tell 100% by the pics, but it looks like a 20mm thick fan may not fit very well..?? Possibly on the NB part. But it looks too tight on the PWM part.

I like the 20mm thick fans, as they seem to move a bit more air with less noise. But if they won't fit, then what's the point.

Also I have to add: thanks a lot for all the effort you put into providing some very helpful info! ... and a hats off to Nelly & everyone else that have contributed to this thread as well .. Thanks ya'all

it all depends how you install/mount them on the board...my fans are 15mm thick so i don't think 20mm is going to be a big problem...i had to re-adjust the position of the fan since i changed my configuration for the Ultra-X to a push-pull fan operation....when i get a chance i will post a picture of what i done...its not as good as it was before but it still blows air in the general direction of the PWM (mosfet) heatsink area.

[ACE76]

This isn't answering your question, but I can't imagine you NEEDING that freq on your FSB. There is almost no performance gains unless it's synthetic benchmark ... Ok, nevermind

Who said I was doing it for real world performance gains? I just want to see how high I can take it.

[The Viper]

ABIT IP35 PRO 2T vs. 1T results
ok, I know that people with this board have been talking about the effects of using a 1T command rate. Many people are under the impression that the 1T CR is very weak on this mobo. Well i set out to see for myself, if their is any difference running 1T vs. 2T. I only used 2 quick benchmarks for this test...SuperPI 1M and Sandra Mem Bandwidth. I ran Super PI and Sandra 5x each and took the highest scores. All mem and CPU settings were kept the same with the exception being 1T and 2T CR.






RESULTS:

1T=SuperPI (highest score)=15.235
1T=Sandra Bandwidth (highest score)=10137/10140
2T=SuperPI (highest score)=15.235
2T=Sandra Bandwidth (highest score)=10138/10133

What the heck ABIT? You gave us the ability to change CR, but it doesnt seem to do anything.

[Ace-a-Rue]

man, i got a scare of my lifetime around 2 AM this morning.

i put on the Ultima 90 in a push-pull setup...had to do it that way to even come close to the Ultra-X with one fan.

back to the scare!...i decided to flash to one of the newer beta bios since i was having problems with getting it to be everest stable at 480 X 8 with the ultima heatsink.

i then reest the bios back to default and set my memory voltage up to 2.1 to make sure it has enough juice to do its job...i booted from my usb thumb-drive like i normally have in the past when flashing...all the bios files are on there, except for the original bios.

i executed the runme.bat and when it got to the point of flashing it said the file did not match the part number...i go, "WHAT"!...never had a problem before.

so...i tried several bioses with all the same results...even a manual write of the flash commands did not help!...so i tried the "11" bios which was already installed just to see if that would flash...it did!...i was surprised.

as i watched the bar progress which was normal UNTIL it reached the very end and then there was huge delay of saying the flash was successful, "hit F1 or reset."...something like that.

i said to myself, "hmmmm, not kosher there"!...i starred at the screen for a few seconds and said, ok, reset...i hit F1...it sarted to re-post and then stopped on code "16" which basically says something is wrong with the clock generator...there are also 2 other things possibly could have gone wrong!

no screen..NADA!...darn!...time to RMA for a new bios chip!...shezit! ...then, i remembered i had the QuadGT board in the closset...got that baby out; broke down the pro board...built up the quadgt with just an intel heatsink, one stick of memory and a PCI video card...powered up; went into the bios to set up to flash from the usb drive.

booted to the usb drive and then i did the hot flash swap of the bios chips...went to do the flash and wham-o, same thing again!...i said to myself it has to be a damaged/defective bios chip.

i wasn't ready to give up...maybe one more manual flash but i checked the switches that are available to see if there are any that would invoke or force a flash regardless of the part number difference.

there wasn't a clear cut switch that might help my situation...BUT...there was 2 switches that gave me some hope...they were the "F" and "QI" switches...don't remeber the exact definition for those switches...i'll post the help menu for the award flasher later to let you guys see what it says for those 2 switches.

anyway, a successful flash...i did it about 3 times to ensure the flash would work each time...didn't want to get in that scenario about part numbers not matching...3 times it worked...shut the system down and did the switch-a-roo!.

everything is working nicely now on the pro...SHEW!

[RLM]

Thanks for sharing that, a useful bit of info to know. Must read up on hot flashing.

Basically you just need one of those pick efforts don't you? To get the chip out.

Bit of luck having the Quad tucked away in a cupboard.

I've got one tucked away in a cupboard, unfortunately that cupboard's 6000 miles away.

Anyway's nice result

RLM

[tomati]

Hi,

I have checked my vcore with DMM after vdroop mod.





I got o an overvoltage by 0,01v idle / 0,02v load ( bios = µguru = DMM + 0,01)

Now I set with the DMM 1,45v (rock solid idle = load ) as I select it in bios and µguru report me 1,43v under load.

Damn I love this board and this mod , it's my first hard vmod , usually I did the pencil trick .

[strange|ife]

do you use Vista? There was 2 much talked about hotfixes that came out in August, one of them fixes this.

xp is my 24/7 os. the onboard worked fine in vista, had no such issue with suspend. Doesnt matter, the pcie card is working flawless, ive noticed a bit better throughput over the network. and downloads in general..that could just be a placebo effect though

[strange|ife]

man, i got a scare of my lifetime around 2 AM this morning.

i put on the Ultima 90 in a push-pull setup...had to do it that way to even come close to the Ultra-X with one fan.

back to the scare!...i decided to flash to one of the newer beta bios since i was having problems with getting it to be everest stable at 480 X 8 with the ultima heatsink.

i then reest the bios back to default and set my memory voltage up to 2.1 to make sure it has enough juice to do its job...i booted from my usb thumb-drive like i normally have in the past when flashing...all the bios files are on there, except for the original bios.

i executed the runme.bat and when it got to the point of flashing it said the file did not match the part number...i go, "WHAT"!...never had a problem before.

so...i tried several bioses with all the same results...even a manual write of the flash commands did not help!...so i tried the "11" bios which was already installed just to see if that would flash...it did!...i was surprised.

as i watched the bar progress which was normal UNTIL it reached the very end and then there was huge delay of saying the flash was successful, "hit F1 or reset."...something like that.

i said to myself, "hmmmm, not kosher there"!...i starred at the screen for a few seconds and said, ok, reset...i hit F1...it sarted to re-post and then stopped on code "16" which basically says something is wrong with the clock generator...there are also 2 other things possibly could have gone wrong!

no screen..NADA!...darn!...time to RMA for a new bios chip!...shezit! ...then, i remembered i had the QuadGT board in the closset...got that baby out; broke down the pro board...built up the quadgt with just an intel heatsink, one stick of memory and a PCI video card...powered up; went into the bios to set up to flash from the usb drive.

booted to the usb drive and then i did the hot flash swap of the bios chips...went to do the flash and wham-o, same thing again!...i said to myself it has to be a damaged/defective bios chip.

i wasn't ready to give up...maybe one more manual flash but i checked the switches that are available to see if there are any that would invoke or force a flash regardless of the part number difference.

there wasn't a clear cut switch that might help my situation...BUT...there was 2 switches that gave me some hope...they were the "F" and "QI" switches...don't remeber the exact definition for those switches...i'll post the help menu for the award flasher later to let you guys see what it says for those 2 switches.

anyway, a successful flash...i did it about 3 times to ensure the flash would work each time...didn't want to get in that scenario about part numbers not matching...3 times it worked...shut the system down and did the switch-a-roo!.

everything is working nicely now on the pro...SHEW!

good job man, sounds like a close one. I wonder if all the flashing has a detrimental effect on the flashrom over time. I killed a bios chip along time ago on an a nforce 2 board from a ton of diffrent flashes..who knows

Iam gonna wait till the next offcial comes out, unless one of the next betas has something really good in it to be worthwhile

[Dredd]

Mwave is perfectly reputible

That's what I ment. I didn't do a thorough search to see if anything was cheaper than $279 because I'm only checking places I know are good retailers.

[Dredd]

If you want you can buy my B3 for $255.00 shipped used it for fill in for couple of weeks till my G0 got here when I sold my E6420 to danny on the forum here
Will provide receipt with purchase date and arrival from Mwave and also Arrival date of my G0 so you know for a fact that it was only used for a couple of weeks! I only kept it at 3.0ghz because I knew I was selling it but it does go higher tested at 3.2ghz stable but did not try higher because of selling it I did not think it was appropriate to beat on it you know?

Also talk to danny and ask him about how he likes that E6420 that was a month old that does 3.5ghz that I sold to him for $160.00 shipped and what his thoughts on dealing with me was!

I'll keep it in mind. Thanks for the offer.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Thanks for sharing that, a useful bit of info to know. Must read up on hot flashing.

Basically you just need one of those pick efforts don't you? To get the chip out.

Bit of luck having the Quad tucked away in a cupboard.

I've got one tucked away in a cupboard, unfortunately that cupboard's 6000 miles away.

Anyway's nice result

RLM

yeah, makes it kind of difficult when the alternate board to use for a hot flash is 6K miles away...

i did not have a special tool to pull the bios chip...i used a very small head screw driver like the one you use to tighten up eye glass frames...you just put it into the slot corner hole and pry upwards...then i used my fingers to wiggle the rest out of the socket.

to put the other one back in, it has to be pushed in (paralled to the edge) at a horizontal angle of about 45 degrees...once it is in, then you can push the rest down with your finger...it slips in fairly easy as long as you do the initial insertion correctly.

[Ace-a-Rue]

good job man, sounds like a close one. I wonder if all the flashing has a detrimental effect on the flashrom over time. I killed a bios chip along time ago on an a nforce 2 board from a ton of diffrent flashes..who knows

Iam gonna wait till the next offcial comes out, unless one of the next betas has something really good in it to be worthwhile

i don't think i flashed more than usual for boards...i must of did it maybe 10-15 times the most!

something had to happen when i'v been testing the board and it has freezed many times...those events could have stoked the chip in some way.

[strange|ife]

only 15 times?

ya ive flashed this board at least 7 times now. i think its a record for me anyway.

hey what are the chances of them putting in a BIOS side vdroop dampner like in the p5k bios?
or is that hardware side..

[Ace-a-Rue]

Question to Ace-a-Rue (or anyone else that remounted the heatpipe cooling on this MB for the chipset etc..)

I'm waiting on my IP-35Pro to arrive. And I am planning on remounting the heatpipe cooling on this board as per your guide. However, I don't have much in my inventory for 40mm fans. I do have one 40mm x 20mm. But, it looks like you are using 40mm x 10mm fans. Will a 40mm x 20mm fan be too thick? I am going with the same heat sink (TR 120 Extreme) BTW.

I cannot tell 100% by the pics, but it looks like a 20mm thick fan may not fit very well..?? Possibly on the NB part. But it looks too tight on the PWM part.

I like the 20mm thick fans, as they seem to move a bit more air with less noise. But if they won't fit, then what's the point.

Also I have to add: thanks a lot for all the effort you put into providing some very helpful info! ... and a hats off to Nelly & everyone else that have contributed to this thread as well .. Thanks ya'all

here are 2 pictures that show how i am cooling the NB and the PWM area since i reconfigured my ultra-x heatsink.

i had to place the PWM fan at a new location since the "pull" 120x38mm fan blocks access to the PWM heatsink...its a fairly strong fan that puts out good cfm's so that distance away is not as a big problem as you might think.

notice the mod i did to the ultra...its just painters tape on each side of the ultra...that keeps any fan air from spilling out from the side...it helped lower the temp about another 1-2C...easy mod to do....getting xtreme now!

[Ace-a-Rue]

only 15 times?

ya ive flashed this board at least 7 times now. i think its a record for me anyway.

hey what are the chances of them putting in a BIOS side vdroop dampner like in the p5k bios?
or is that hardware side..

i'm thinking that is a hardware change to control the droop and the bios is the on-off switch for it.

[Ace-a-Rue]

Hi,

I have checked my vcore with DMM after vdroop mod.




I got o an overvoltage by 0,01v idle / 0,02v load ( bios = µguru = DMM + 0,01)

Now I set with the DMM 1,45v (rock solid idle = load ) as I select it in bios and µguru report me 1,43v under load.

Damn I love this board and this mod , it's my first hard vmod , usually I did the pencil trick .

i love this board TOO!!!!

[fornowagain]

there wasn't a clear cut switch that might help my situation...BUT...there was 2 switches that gave me some hope...they were the "F" and "QI" switches...don't remeber the exact definition for those switches...i'll post the help menu for the award flasher later to let you guys see what it says for those 2 switches.

I got o an overvoltage by 0,01v idle / 0,02v load ( bios = µguru = DMM + 0,01)

Now I set with the DMM 1,45v (rock solid idle = load ) as I select it in bios and µguru report me 1,43v under load.

Yeah thats about what I was seeing, µguru is not so accurate. Always best to use the DMM, I find the vcore is very stable, great board so far

[Ace-a-Rue]

thanks for posting the awdflash help menu...i forgot to do it.

as for Uguru accurracy with vcore..it is spot on for me...now, it falls off a lttle but when it comes back up (tops off) and goes no further...that is the actual vcore reading from the board...i've read from my board using a DMM while looking right at uguru vcore...its right within 0.005v of the actual board reading.

[Knight]

thanks for posting the awdflash help menu...i forgot to do it.

as for Uguru accurracy with vcore..it is spot on for me...now, it falls off a lttle but when it comes back up (tops off) and goes no further...that is the actual vcore reading from the board...i've read from my board using a DMM while looking right at uguru vcore...its right within 0.005v of the actual board reading.

Is that with the Vdrop mod?

[Nelly]

hey what are the chances of them putting in a BIOS side vdroop dampner like in the p5k bios?
or is that hardware side..

I'm not sure but I emailed Abit Technical in Taiwan nearly 2 days ago requesting exactly what you have wrote. Hopefully I'll get a reply very soon. . .