**Official ABIT IP-35 Pro Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[C-N]

I flashed to the 12_bo2 BETA BIOS last night just to see if I could find any extra bandwidth or lower latency as it was suggested these were tweaked in this build.

I was not able to get my 12 hour + Orthos stable rig with retail BIOS 11 stable for more than 30 minutes at 462 x 8 DDR1109 CL5 2T with the 12_bo2 BIOS.

I cant find any performance improvement over the retail 11 BIOS.

Has anyone got 12_bo2 Orthos stable for any length of time & if so have you found any performance gain?

One last thing I too can bench DDR1200 @ 3.6GHz 400 x 9 with both 11 & 12_bo2 but it is not Orthos stable & it is slower than 450 x 8 DDR1000 CL5 2T which means its no good for daily use even though DDR1200 sounds great.

Also as viper said earlier I too love this board & have not had or got 1 single problem with it yet its an excellent board.

CN

[Ace-a-Rue]

I flashed to the 12_bo2 BETA BIOS last night just to see if I could find any extra bandwidth or lower latency as it was suggested these were tweaked in this build.

I was not able to get my 12 hour + Orthos stable rig with retail BIOS 11 stable for more than 30 minutes at 462 x 8 DDR1109 CL5 2T with the 12_bo2 BIOS.

I cant find any performance improvement over the retail 11 BIOS.

Has anyone got 12_bo2 Orthos stable for any length of time & if so have you found any performance gain?

One last thing I too can bench DDR1200 @ 3.6GHz 400 x 9 with both 11 & 12_bo2 but it is not Orthos stable & it is slower than 450 x 8 DDR1000 CL5 2T which means its no good for daily use even though DDR1200 sounds great.

Also as viper said earlier I too love this board & have not had or got 1 single problem with it yet its an excellent board.

CN

the latest beta bios appears to be the same as the previous beta...i am back to bios 11, the 2nd official sanctioned bios release....

my system is not prime stable...i really don't care because i will never grind all four cores at 100%...i call stable, 24/7 as whatever you do with your machine and it does not give you a BSOD, freeze the screen, randomly reboot on you, programs do not close out on you or you bounce back to the desktop if you are gaming...to me, that is a stable system.

[C-N]

the latest beta bios appears to be the same as the previous beta...i am back to bios 11, the 2nd official sanctioned bios release....

Same here I have gone back to official 11.

my system is not prime stable...i really don't care because i will never grind all four cores at 100%...i call stable, 24/7 as whatever you do with your machine and it does not give you a BSOD, freeze the screen, randomly reboot on you, programs do not close out on you or you bounce back to the desktop if you are gaming...to me, that is a stable system.

Sure stable is whatever you personally deem acceptable all I was trying to do using Orthos was tell people BETA 12_b02 failed Orthos running the same settings that passed 12 hours + with official 11.

I have also spent 10 hours + playing with my rig trying to get it to run Orthos with BETA 12_bo2 but couldn't get it to run past 30 minutes & as Orthos is an accepted stress tester I thought I would post my findings which may help others.

CN

[Ace-a-Rue]

Same here I have gone back to official 11.



Sure stable is whatever you personally deem acceptable all I was trying to do using Orthos was tell people BETA 12_b02 failed Orthos running the same settings that passed 12 hours + with official 11.

I have also spent 10 hours + playing with my rig trying to get it to run Orthos with BETA 12_bo2 but couldn't get it to run past 30 minutes & as Orthos is an accepted stress tester I thought I would post my findings which may help others.

CN

sorry...i wasn't criticizing you...i was trying to express that i think to many people put to much emphasis on orthos or prime 95 for 8, 10 or 12 hours when in reality 99.9% of us will never run a program that will consume 100% cpu usage on all four cores.

one guy made a good point about doing orthos or prime 95 for "12" hours...he thought he was stable but his game would kick back to the desktop after a short period of time running it...so...there are no guarantees with orthos or prime 95 if you can do that for many hours...his fix for the game dropping back to the desktop was to increase the vcore.

that is why i am not so fixed on doing it for many hours...if i get 30 minutes that is good enough for me.

[Dredd]

sorry...i wasn't criticizing you...i was trying to express that i think to many people put to much emphasis on orthos or prime 95 for 8, 10 or 12 hours when in reality 99.9% of us will never run a program that will consume 100% cpu usage on all four cores.

one guy made a good point about doing orthos or prime 95 for "12" hours...he thought he was stable but his game would kick back to the desktop after a short period of time running it...so...there are no guarantees with orthos or prime 95 if you can do that for many hours...his fix for the game dropping back to the desktop was to increase the vcore.

that is why i am not so fixed on doing it for many hours...if i get 30 minutes that is good enough for me.

Well, I ran Orthos for 6 hours ok, gaming ok, memtest showed memory errors until I backed down from my previous settings of DDR2-970 4-4-4-12 2T 2.2v to DDR2-850 4-4-4-12 1T 2.1v

So...what does that mean?

[Ace-a-Rue]

Well, I ran Orthos for 6 hours ok, gaming ok, memtest showed memory errors until I backed down from my previous settings of DDR2-970 4-4-4-12 2T 2.2v to DDR2-850 4-4-4-12 1T 2.1v

So...what does that mean?

it means that you have to tweak every area until you find the sweet spot

[Knight]

Is there a reason why I should not get version 7.6 of the Intel Matrix Storage Manager?

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...%2032&lang=eng

Would it be ok for me to use this instead on 7.5?

[Dredd]

it means that you have to tweak every area until you find the sweet spot

Well, like I said everything inside windows worked. Memtest stressing memory directly showed some errors. I've tried everything and I suppose all I can do is leave it where it's at because I am using all 4 slots and it's not really slow by any means.

[C-N]

sorry...i wasn't criticizing you...i was trying to express that i think to many people put to much emphasis on orthos or prime 95 for 8, 10 or 12 hours when in reality 99.9% of us will never run a program that will consume 100% cpu usage on all four cores.

one guy made a good point about doing orthos or prime 95 for "12" hours...he thought he was stable but his game would kick back to the desktop after a short period of time running it...so...there are no guarantees with orthos or prime 95 if you can do that for many hours...his fix for the game dropping back to the desktop was to increase the vcore.

that is why i am not so fixed on doing it for many hours...if i get 30 minutes that is good enough for me.

No worries & I totally get what you are saying as I have had many rigs that run Prime/Orthos then fall over in games or corrupt windows days later but for me personally I run my rig hard 24/7 for pleasure/gaming & I run a small business from home on it so I run every test there is before calling my rig stable.

Anyway forget stability for now what I was getting at earlier was I too can bench DDR1200 just like viper with this board @ 400 x 9 but my point is its slower in PI, Sandra, Everest etc etc than DDR1080 450 x 8 so as good as DDR1200 sounds its a no brainer for me.

I am all up for finding more power/speed from this board just the same as everyone else here but when I see other users struggling to match what they saw here at xtreme & failing blaming there hardware trying to get there rig stable enough to open notepad when the original posters rig was only 14seconds/PI 1M stable in the first place I feel obliged to comment particularly when there is no useable benefit as well.

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My basic point from 4-5 pages ago still stand BIOS 12_b02 is not as stable & doesn't offer any performance gain over official 11 & I ask anyone to chip in with there comments after all thats the whole point of a BETA BIOS (work out issues before release)

CN