Quote Originally Posted by generics_user View Post
they didn't paper launch, if they did we would've some reviews, they announced it

to stop all this discussion can we sum it up that amd has best brice/performance for their wwhole range compared to intel offerings in this price range (i also add mobo costs into this) but no chance in price range above 200$ ?

we got all this flaming in here because we got no new information, we still know as much as we knew 3 months ago, so why do you guy bother talking about how fast/bad barcelona is? wait for some new information or we end up bashing/praising current tech, and this thread is about AMD BARCELONA and no other cpu
If it's not a paper launch, please go out and buy one? Easier done, show me Fugger's benchmark of one? I said it was a paperlaunch, NOT Vaporware. There are Barcelona processors out there. It was said that it was 10% faster clock for clock. If that's the case, AMD is in trouble.

AMD doesn't have the best anything, if they did, they'd not be hemorrhaging red ink the way they have been the last 4 or 5 Quarters. Price to performance is meaningless, ask Intel? That got creamed while X2 pimp slapped the cheaper Prescotts. AMD's market share went from about 16% to as high as 24%. Only Conroe turned that around.

The reason (this was brought up) is that AMD is saying TRUST us when we tell you Barcelona is Blah per cent faster. If you, I or anyone else makes a claim, we should be prepared to back it up!