ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[Xvys]

Scope666, with those parts you should be able to get to 500FSB+. Not sure what voltage your running, but I would set the bios cpu voltage to 1.40v, and set the memory voltage to 2.1v. Then leave all other settings on auto, including enabling auto memory speed timings. My E6300/P5B/Ballistix system runs stable @ 470FSB with these settings. With cpu voltage increased to 1.55v in the bios and FSB termination voltage set to 1.45v, it runs at 525FSB nice and hot. Perhaps with 4G of ram you might need 2.2v?

[Scope666]

Scope666, with those parts you should be able to get to 500FSB+. Not sure what voltage your running, but I would set the bios cpu voltage to 1.40v, and set the memory voltage to 2.1v. Then leave all other settings on auto, including enabling auto memory speed timings. My E6300/P5B/Ballistix system runs stable @ 470FSB with these settings. With cpu voltage increased to 1.55v in the bios and FSB termination voltage set to 1.45v, it runs at 525FSB nice and hot. Perhaps with 4G of ram you might need 2.2v?

Thanks for your reply, I followed your settings EXACTLY, but I still couldn't get it to POST. I tried both your 470 and 525 settings. It's so weird, maybe I just have a crappy CPU and or motherboard. I am able to run at 425 FSB with everything on auto except cpu voltage at 1.375 and Memory at 2.10, which leaves me at 2975 Mhz. anything else I should try? Thanks again...

PS I only have 2 sticks, 1 gig each, in the yellow sockets.

[shimmishim]

Thanks for your reply, I followed your settings EXACTLY, but I still couldn't get it to POST. I tried both your 470 and 525 settings. It's so weird, maybe I just have a crappy CPU and or motherboard. I am able to run at 425 FSB with everything on auto except cpu voltage at 1.375 and Memory at 2.10, which leaves me at 2975 Mhz. anything else I should try? Thanks again...

PS I only have 2 sticks, 1 gig each, in the yellow sockets.

how about increasing your NB voltage to 1.55 instead of putting it on auto?

have you tried that yet?

[Angelico_Payne]

No one had problems like me setuping up raid??

And yes the error is cannot copy (not cannot read)

[davexl]

Has anyone tried 2.4GHz Core 2 Quad on this board? because I will be getting one soon and will overclock it high since the Bus Speed is lower than my E6300. Already got the update for it so Its ready for it.

Yes, got it 48hr Prime95 stable at 3510GHz. I highly recommend the Ultra-120 Extreme to cool it...

[jVIDIA]

Which bios are you guys using for a better OC ?

[Scope666]

how about increasing your NB voltage to 1.55 instead of putting it on auto?

have you tried that yet?

I just tried that, no dice. I ran into a similar wall awhile back around 380 or so, and someone told me about the strap and to jump to 401, and that solved the problem (for 380) Now it's another wall around 425. Are most of you able to keep the other voltages on auto? (nb, sb, fsb term, etc)

Also, on my mb there isn't an option for 2.1 volts for Ram, it goes from 2.05 to 2.15, then 2.20 .... weird...

[Angelico_Payne]

I have:

1.Floppy 3.5" (non USB)
2.DVD-RW IDE Connected to jmicron controller
3.2 SATA II indentical hard drives Connected to Intel controller
4.Jmicron setup in BIOS as IDE
5.Intel setup in bios as RAID
6.Configured RAID 0 Array properly

If i dont load drivers for RAID by F6 disk array is not recognised by OS setup
If i do, i get recognised and can format it but also get cannot copy iastor.sys error... retry, skip, quit... if i try to skip, 2 more messages .inf , .cat and then BSOD offcourse on next restart.

Someone also suggusted capslocking names of files on disquette... but that also didnt work.

I have tried changing floppy disc, floppy device, new XP setup disc, also tried F6 floppy creator from ASUS download, and also newest from Intel.

Anyone else has any thought, plz share, they are most welcome....

[chuckbam]

I have:

1.Floppy 3.5" (non USB)
2.DVD-RW IDE Connected to jmicron controller
3.2 SATA II indentical hard drives Connected to Intel controller
4.Jmicron setup in BIOS as IDE
5.Intel setup in bios as RAID
6.Configured RAID 0 Array properly

If i dont load drivers for RAID by F6 disk array is not recognised by OS setup
If i do, i get recognised and can format it but also get cannot copy iastor.sys error... retry, skip, quit... if i try to skip, 2 more messages .inf , .cat and then BSOD offcourse on next restart.

Someone also suggusted capslocking names of files on disquette... but that also didnt work.

I have tried changing floppy disc, floppy device, new XP setup disc, also tried F6 floppy creator from ASUS download, and also newest from Intel.

Anyone else has any thought, plz share, they are most welcome....

I have been setting up all kind of RAID configurations and never had a problem with a Intel setup, Are you setting up the RAID during bios boot up. If not, set it up that way. Then, use the F6 disk and load OS. Then load the Intel Matrix Storage Console and make sure you have write-Back Cache Enabled. If no, turn that on in the Console

[Angelico_Payne]

Me neither this is my second problem in 8 years, first was nforce based mb with faulty HD controller, which is not the case here.

I setup RAID in BIOS, then craete array in postBIOS intel RAID utility
Load drivers using F6, drivers load, setup continues, formates disc array... and when its supposed to copy data to HD form XP setup disc it gives that bizzare error.

I cant even get to beginning of XP installation , let alone the end, to be able to utilize Intel Matrix Storage utility.

I know i am not doing anything wrong, but since no one had problem with this type of error, i am thinking maybe i am doing something wrong, its just i dont know what...

[Scope666]

Just curious, has anyone else run into a wall around 425 -430 FSB? if so, were you able to overcome it? Just trying to figure out if I should keep trying, or bag it and wait for the prices to come down and maybe try another CPU. (E6420 or E6600)

Thanks as always. :-)

[Angelico_Payne]

Do I need F6 drivers for RAID when installing Vista?

[dnottis]

Thanks for your reply, I followed your settings EXACTLY, but I still couldn't get it to POST. I tried both your 470 and 525 settings. It's so weird, maybe I just have a crappy CPU and or motherboard. I am able to run at 425 FSB with everything on auto except cpu voltage at 1.375 and Memory at 2.10, which leaves me at 2975 Mhz. anything else I should try? Thanks again...

PS I only have 2 sticks, 1 gig each, in the yellow sockets.

Its an FSB wall, nothing you can do, it's all the chip is gonna give ya. Just picked up a E2140 for my other PC and wanted 3.0Ghz out of it. Hit a wall at 375 Mhz which just happens to be 3000

Anyways, if you want to push higher you'll need to swap out for another CPU.

[dnottis]

Just curious, has anyone else run into a wall around 425 -430 FSB? if so, were you able to overcome it? Just trying to figure out if I should keep trying, or bag it and wait for the prices to come down and maybe try another CPU. (E6420 or E6600)

Thanks as always. :-)

I've had both 6600 and 6420s with walls. With CPUs it's all luck of the draw!!

[Scope666]

I just tried that, no dice. I ran into a similar wall awhile back around 380 or so, and someone told me about the strap and to jump to 401, and that solved the problem (for 380) Now it's another wall around 425. Are most of you able to keep the other voltages on auto? (nb, sb, fsb term, etc)

Also, on my mb there isn't an option for 2.1 volts for Ram, it goes from 2.05 to 2.15, then 2.20 .... weird...

I've had both 6600 and 6420s with walls. With CPUs it's all luck of the draw!!

So odds are its the CPU limiting me and not the motherboard?

I guess I can try my luck with another cpu and ebay the weaker of the 2. If nothing else, I might get the benefit of the extra 2 megs of cache.

[caucano]

Hi all,

I've searched the forums and have not found anything related to this. I saw this thread and figured I'd try my luck. I've read quite a few postings here but most deal with RAID setup or OC.

A while back I noticed that my computer seems to "hang" when I am trying to log off from one account into another from within XP. It seems to occur most often when I "switch" quickly from one account A into account B then try to fully log out of account B (although this is not the only time it happens)

Symptoms: Upon selection of "Log off" the OS just hangs for a while and the screen goes black. I hear the CPU fan and see the power light on, so the OS has not shutdown or restarted. I thought it may be some weird form of standby but upon moving mouse and hitting keys, the display does not come back.

System setup:
P5B Deluxe bios version 1004
(Did not upgrade to 1101 since the fixes do not seem to address any issue I have...from ASUS download website:
"P5B Deluxe Release BIOS 1101
1 Add new uCode to support new CPU.
2 Fix system won''t complete POST with GV-MVP/RZ2(TV tuner) connected and power on before motherboard.")

SATA II Western Digital HD (on intel sata port I think)
Seagate IDE drive and LiteON DVD burner on same IDE bus (does the J-micron driver control this?)
2x1GB CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-6400

I did not install any RAID drivers during xp setup and do not have any RAID.
Under Device manager under "My Computer" I have ACPI Multiprocessor PC. Both the IDE HD and the DVD burner are said to be run by Microsoft drivers in Device manager (clicked on properties then driver tab). Currently using USB keyboard and mouse (heard this could be a problem?) I believe I have my sata drive set as IDE in bios (should this be changed?)

Wow long post (sorry!) If I've misplaced the post please let me know and I apologize. This problem have been driving me crazy b/c upon restarting pc (which I must do when this happens) I get a "Windows fatal error" when I log back into any account.

Thanks in advance.

[Angelico_Payne]

caucano plz try disabling jmicron controller and sound card in BIOS, then try again and see if it still lags.

I heard of freezes and hold ups beacuse of these two, so maybe it helps to indentify the issue.

But this message ""Windows fatal error"" is getting me to think its some program causing this. plz post your taskmanager list prior to you logging off.

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I just managed to install Vista x32 using same bloody floppy disc with no problems whatsoever.

I am now just flat out confused...

[caucano]

Angelico I will look into the j-micron controller when I get home. I was told in another forum that the j-micron controller is needed for the IDE drives; if this is true I won't be able to use the IDE HD and the DVD burner correct?

Funny that you mention it might be a software error, I was thinking of that just recently. I had at some point altered the registry to fix a read-only folder problem http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256614
I have since then returned the registry back to its original state and the problem still persists.

[chuckbam]

Angelico I will look into the j-micron controller when I get home. I was told in another forum that the j-micron controller is needed for the IDE drives; if this is true I won't be able to use the IDE HD and the DVD burner correct?

Funny that you mention it might be a software error, I was thinking of that just recently. I had at some point altered the registry to fix a read-only folder problem http://support.microsoft.com/kb/256614
I have since then returned the registry back to its original state and the problem still persists.

Correct, I just hope you did not load the buggy JMicron drivers. You don't need them for IDE. MS has good generic IDE drivers.

[chuckbam]

So as i thought i have a problem with this mobo

I setup raid, and so on
Boot XP setup disc, press F6
Choose RAID drivers when prompted (1st on list of 4 options)
And its all ok
Format, ... and then i get error cannot read iastore.sys .. skip,retry, quit, bla bla bla... and what ever i do i cant read it from floppy.

And offcourse if i skip i get BSOD on next restart... same goes if i configure to AHCI.

Floppy is ok and configured ok, using latest intel raid drivers for this mobo... configured raid ok and in bios Intel - enchanced - RAID

What is weirdest when i press retry it doesnt even try to read from floppy as it is trying to read from somewhere else..

Plz help, or gimme me any thoughts on this, i am stuck.

Try, don't format, just delete the partion and hit next. See if that works, if you have not fixed it yet.

[caucano]

So I opened up my case to check the connection of my SATA II drive. It is indeed in the SATA port 1. Then I tried the following:

Went into BIOS and under IDE configuration I set SATA to AHCI, saved and exited. Windows did not load.

Returned to BIOS, set SATA to IDE and turned off J-micron controller (which was set as IDE). Windows loaded fine and I tried to see if I would get an error upon loggin in/out of mutliple accounts. Windows did not hang this time! although this does not mean the problem is solved. I noticed that now my HD and dvd-burner are not recognized by windows.

So I returned to BIOS and enabled back J-Micron. Now my drive and burner are recognized. I tried removing J-Micron as suggested in this thread but I my drive is not recognized as SCSI; actually I have no SCSI tab under device manager.

I've also scanned the PC with Adaware to check for malware, nothing found. It could be this J-micron thing though. Any ideas as to how I can remove it and still use my IDE drives?

EDIT: Here are the programs running for the 1st account I log onto. I then use "Switch" to the second account and the programs for the second account are also below

[Angelico_Payne]

Chuckbam i havent thought of that, but i will certainly try... I have installed Vista atm so i can acctually get some work down and RnR.. but doesnt the windows allways formats by itself even if you do not do it manually?

But as with this mobo fun never ends i have a new question/problem.

I cannot enable cash write back

But it seems as it is enabled individually, but not on volume....

Look at pics



And this is what i get in Intel MAtrix Storage util (7.5 ver)





Notice how its enabled per drive, but not for volume, just as in windows devmgmt.

Is this normal , and if not how do i enable it...

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Also my HD read are 124 MB/s and 157MB/s burst rate measured by HDSpeed

Is this ok speed for 2xSata II Discs in RAID 0 mode?

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Also a quick Q about defragmenting.
Is Defragmenting RAID 0 volume worth doing? I ask because if i understand correctly the data is resettled so its in one piece in sector by sector mode. So in case of RAID 0 moving data to 1 of the discs defeats the purpose of RAID 0 reading advantage. I mean are there defragmentors that recognise RAID 0 setting and defragment accordingly?

[Angelico_Payne]

Caucano try to kill following programs and then try to switch users :
DefWatch
AiNap
aawservice (it seems you have new adaware 2007 installed i had problems with it)
VPtray
CALMain
winvnc4
rtvscan
aacenter
rundll32 (this shouldnt be running unless there is some program calling it)
spoolsv
ccevtmgr
ccsetmgr
nvsvc32
cvpnd

And since u cannot kill zlclient and vsmon u have to shutdown zonealarm (which i abandoned 2 months ago due to improper protection and some lag issues and switched to Comodo what i recommned you too)

Also deinstall sound drivers or disable them in BIOS (if oyu havent allready), cause i see you still have soundmax files running. or just try to kill smax4.exe


Hope it works out, if it does it is then just a question of shuting down one application less until you come up with application that lags you

Oh yes i mean end task when i say kill

[doakh]

Here is how I fixed my PCi-e x1 problem. I was trying to decide if I wanted to run my memory at 1:1 or 4:5. When I had it at 1:1 my PCi-e was x1. When I changed it to 4:5 the PCi-e was x16. I flipped back and forth a few times and the results were the same. I tried changing the NB vCore and it was not the problem.

P5B Deluxe (Bios 1101)
e6600....389 FSB running at 3.51Ghz
Sapphire X1950Pro 512MB
2X1Gb G.Skill F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ (4:5) running at 973Mhz (4-4-4-12)
vMemory: 2.30
CPU vCore: 1.4625
FSB vCore: Auto
NB vCore: 1.55
Sb Vcore: 1.50
ICH vCore: Auto

PS: I tried for 400 FSB with a vMemory of 2.40 and the bios page froze. I thought I was done. It would not post on repeated tries. I had 4x1Gb of memory, so I tried one set at a time and sure enough one of my sets were defective and would not post. So I guess 2.40 volts is not good for this memory. I am glad I had two sets of memory or else I would not have been able to figure this out. I RMA'd the memory and I am going to keep it as backup from now on.

[boris_37]

okay my pc was having issues being slow and the occasional error. I decided to format and seem to be having even more issues than before.

I formatted fine and installed, then i tried to boot and it would hit the windows loading screen, and crash. I ran checkdisk through system recovery, it said it found some errors so i ran a /r and it supposedly fixed them. Anyways, i reinstalled/reformatted again because the problem was not solved. Now i seem to be getting a disk error and it is telling me to ctrl+alt+del

I have

p5b deluxe
e6400
2x74gb raptors in raid0
etc etc

please ask if you need more.

Are my hard drives dying, im really pissed becaue they are expensive so i dont wanna buy new ones.