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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleZero View Post
    Look at the second Everest benchmark.
    Yeah, I see that but it's still a beta, that's why I asked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Movieman View Post
    (nn_step cringes at the thought that the pic of super pi was done at 2666mhz,sells AMD stock, applies for job with Intel, shot at door as a suspected spy!)

    If those SP1M times were at 2666mhz then Penryn is what it's claimed to be.
    If at 3000 it's still a very nice increase.
    Does make you want to get one and try for 8x500 though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    Super PI just isn't the type of video game that I am into, nor does it dictate how much work will be done in WCG...
    Just like specfp_rate
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    yeah... i need CPU Power to emulate PS2 engine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    Super PI just isn't the type of video game that I am into, nor does it dictate how much work will be done in WCG...
    Agreed, but it is an indicator of what amount of computational power exists in that cpu..
    My 8 core clovertown will only do 15.562s in SP1M but it will do almost 26,000 a day in WCG and I think thats the top single producing machine in the project....Why? 8 cores..
    There are machines that produce more per core but not more total in a day..
    If all the shown SS here are correct then this looks like a nice increase over the C2D's and makes me want a pair of Harpertowns all the more!
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    Now i know what happened in that super pi run, do you remember Core Multiplexing?

    I know for a fact that Wolfdale has it and that it should be enabled in that run, now that super pi could be about 3GHz? not sure how much the increase of mhz will be if they disable 1 core.

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    It is looking like my upgrade path is becoming clearer. Still waiting on amd numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metro.cl View Post
    Now i know what happened in that super pi run, do you remember Core Multiplexing?

    I know for a fact that Wolfdale has it and that it should be enabled in that run, now that super pi could be about 3GHz? not sure how much the increase of mhz will be if they disable 1 core.
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    Also the only thing Penryn got is the dynamic OC. And thats mobile only.
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    Could be that Wolfdale uses all of it's 6 MBs of L2 for Spi with CMT and maybe even OCs the one core in singlethreaded apps.
    So far Everest doesn't impress me at all(even a bit slower in most cases clock 4 clock versus Conroe..)

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    Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
    assuming it overclocks (well)
    Since when does an Intel chip not overclock well???

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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    Could be that Wolfdale uses all of it's 6 MBs of L2 for Spi with CMT and maybe even OCs the one core in singlethreaded apps.
    So far Everest doesn't impress me at all(even a bit slower in most cases clock 4 clock versus Conroe..)
    It uses all or close to all6Mb. Just like a Conroe would use close to 4MB.

    There is no CMT in them. And no OC unless its a mobile.
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    The IDF numbers still seems to cover more than Everest and SuperPI



    So roughly remove 13.6% from those numbers (Cept 3Dmark overall due to GPU) and you got the IPC improvement in each category.

    So for gaming, HL2 is about 25% faster clock for clock.
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    That's all in intel controlled environment ...I wouldn't hold my breath for 25% increase in gaming clock for clock.More like 6-10% in average..

    With SSE4 it's all other game.This should bring evident advatage to Penryn versus Conroe,once the software hits the shelves(that might be soon or it might be in a few years...).
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    Ye, I'm sure the biggest part of the market buys CFUs only to run WCG. Hey, they gotta use the money somewhere
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    Quote Originally Posted by alfaunits View Post
    Ye, I'm sure the biggest part of the market buys CFUs only to run WCG. Hey, they gotta use the money somewhere
    Nah, nn_step was teasing me if you read it closely..
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    WOW this looks good. Thanks for the numbers.
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    All factors aside, BIOS, Everest update, etc.

    THIS LOOKS GOOD! Even though the E6700 inches out some benches, it's still on par, and just think about it when the tweaks/updates hit.

    I just want to know/see the limits of this thing overclocked. 4.5Ghz on air baby!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by informal View Post
    With SSE4 it's all other game.This should bring evident advatage to Penryn versus Conroe,once the software hits the shelves(that might be soon or it might be in a few years...).
    Yeah right, only very few <good> programmers spend optimizing their algorithms by hand coding them in assembly using multimedia and sse instructions. Don't expect to see sse optimized programs or games, only in encoders and decoders (from smart programmers like divx devs). There is no compiler that I'm aware of that can optimize code very well by using any extended instructions, all of them do job very poorly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    No

    Also the only thing Penryn got is the dynamic OC. And thats mobile only.
    Have you seen a bios shot? i have and i think Core multiplexing is what this is about.

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    wow... if those numbers are legit penryn will rock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxxxRacer View Post
    wow... if those numbers are legit penryn will rock.
    We didn't need the numbers to confirm the latter
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    Quote Originally Posted by metro.cl View Post
    Have you seen a bios shot? i have and i think Core multiplexing is what this is about.
    No. Core Multiplexing just disables/enables the cores, leaving just one enabled. For example, core multiplexing will disable 3 cores on a Kentsfield, 1 core on a Conroe/Penryn, etc.

    Also, I really don't think 14.x seconds for SuperPI 1M is possible at 2.66GHz stock speed for a Penryn family processor.
    oh man

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