ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[nicepun]

I'm no longer confident that any post-mortem message I get means much. It crashed again at lunch to the Blue Screen mentioning why Windows was shut down to prevent damage. The BIOS change for Write Recovery was apparently useless, as is running Orthos to see if my system is stable.

One point I discussed with a friend at lunch is the iffy power supply cable I had not been using much until this rebuild. It had been feeding only the floppy drive due to oddball things hapening when anything else was attached, but I've been feeding the extra case fans off it since the rebuild so the first thing I'll do when I get home is build a bigger octopus out of the one (apparently) trouble-free cable I do have and see what results: hopefully not a fire. No SATA-to-4PIN adapters in sight to make use of the other cables.

I do have a new modular Zalman ZM 600HP PSU on order from Amazon, but it's now delayed until an estimated July 10 ship date (originally May 26 or so). If it wasn't nearly $60 cheaper than NewEgg I'd have gone elsewhere long ago.

BIOS: 1707
CPU Freq: 410
DRAM freq: DDR2-820Mhz
Performance: Standard
PCI-X Freq: 105
PCI Clock: 33.33Mhz
vCore: Please change it
vFSB: 1.50V
vMCH: 1.65V or1.75V
vICH: MAX IT OUT

RAM details: Corsair TWIN2XP2048-6400C4
CAS: 4
RAS: 4
RAS to CAS: 4
RAS Activate to Precharge: 12
Write Recovery: soon to be 4 again since 5 didn't prevent crash.
Hyperpath: Disabled
DRAM throttling: Disabled
Remap: Disabled

Didn't write down anything else or get RAM specs from CPU-Z, but I'm not sure what else is critical...

Made a few changes for you. Please try to find a good vcore. Also, where you change your multiplier, everything should be disable except the Microcode Update.

[mikepaul]

Made a few changes for you. Please try to find a good vcore. Also, where you change your multiplier, everything should be disable except the Microcode Update.

Suggested changes made. Max vMCH available was 1.65V. vICH at 1.20V.

Also fixed power-related issue, and added extra 80MM fan to left side grill. More air seems better.

vCore never seemed to matter before, and at 1.325V I still have CPU-Z telling me it's bouncing around under that anyway. Orthos now seems a waste of time to validate vCore, so what might be better?

And 2:45:00 or so into Memtest I started after the lunch crash the machine locked up, so with these new parameters and the power fix maybe an unfailed Memtest is my new stability check...

[nicepun]

Suggested changes made. Max vMCH available was 1.65V. vICH at 1.20V.

Also fixed power-related issue, and added extra 80MM fan to left side grill. More air seems better.

vCore never seemed to matter before, and at 1.325V I still have CPU-Z telling me it's bouncing around under that anyway. Orthos now seems a waste of time to validate vCore, so what might be better?

And 2:45:00 or so into Memtest I started after the lunch crash the machine locked up, so with these new parameters and the power fix maybe an unfailed Memtest is my new stability check...

Hmmm, you must have a really hold mobo. Redo the vcore to 1.425 just to see if that's the issue. Do not use CPUZ for vcore, use AiBooster or even measuring it yourself with a multimeter. Good Luck.

[sesdave]

Suggested changes made. Max vMCH available was 1.65V. vICH at 1.20V.

Also fixed power-related issue, and added extra 80MM fan to left side grill. More air seems better.

vCore never seemed to matter before, and at 1.325V I still have CPU-Z telling me it's bouncing around under that anyway. Orthos now seems a waste of time to validate vCore, so what might be better?

And 2:45:00 or so into Memtest I started after the lunch crash the machine locked up, so with these new parameters and the power fix maybe an unfailed Memtest is my new stability check...

You have an early revision board which will only go to 1.65 on MCH. Most boards have a vdroop of approx .05v. Heres a link to some pencil volt mods if you want more http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3876 but 1.65 should be okay for upto 420-430 FSB. I run vFSb=1.3,MCH=1.65, VICH=1.2. I agree that you should up you vcore - Loosen the memory to 5,5,5,15 if you cant get stable,. If its rev 2.1 it wont clock much at all. If it is an earlier revision it will be micron D9 chips and that will fly If you up the volts to 2.2 and tighten the timmings. Disable anything in BIOS u dont recognise or use - follow this guide http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html. Dont forget to diable any q fan control and virtulisation.
Best monitoring tool is MBM5 - I posted details recently on were to get latest vesion with coretemp plugin and how to set it up. I can send you zipped directory if you struggle. Orthos is by far the best tool for testing stability!

[yobi]

New bios

http://rapidshare.com/files/38681438...eluxe-2103.rar

[nicepun]

New bios

http://rapidshare.com/files/38681438...eluxe-2103.rar

Hmmm, I will give them a try later on. Any change log????

[-:[CC]:-]

New bios

http://rapidshare.com/files/38681438...eluxe-2103.rar

Hey i see u use 4gb of ram, after i Flash my bios to 2004 to support Q6600 i only see 2800 mb so i just like to know what bios u are using atm

If other know a bios there support q6600 and 4gb ram Plz say so Thx


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[nicepun]

Hey i see u use 4gb of ram, after i Flash my bios to 2004 to support Q6600 i only see 2800 mb so i just like to know what bios u are using atm

If other know a bios there support q6600 and 4gb ram Plz say so Thx


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You see 2800mb in BIOS or Windows?

[-:[CC]:-]

You see 2800mb in BIOS or Windows?

In bios its say install mem 4096 but its only count 2688mb

Its stand like this
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Old Bios Rev ? cant remember
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System Memory
Total: 4096MB
Appropriated: 0MB
Available: 4096MB
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New Bios 2004
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System Memory:
Total: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1408MB
Available: 2688MB
-----------------
So as u see its only use the 2688mb ; /

[nicepun]

In bios its say install mem 4096 but its only count 2688mb

Its stand like this
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Old Bios Rev ? cant remember
-----------------
System Memory
Total: 4096MB
Appropriated: 0MB
Available: 4096MB
-----------------
New Bios 2004
-----------------
System Memory:
Total: 4096MB
Appropriated: 1408MB
Available: 2688MB
-----------------
So as u see its only use the 2688mb ; /

Hmmm, do this. Reflash with only 2gb, then add the other 2gb and see what happens.

[-:[CC]:-]

Hmmm, do this. Reflash with only 2gb, then add the other 2gb and see what happens.

Will try that but dont think its help

Gona get back to here when i have try it


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[lawrywild]

Another mirror fpr 2103: http://rapidshare.com/files/38702028...eluxe-2103.ROM

[GLENBOY]

hiya lawry do you know if the new 2103 bios has the unlocked multiplier for xtreme chips

[-:[CC]:-]

Hmmm, do this. Reflash with only 2gb, then add the other 2gb and see what happens.

Ok now i did what u sayed but dident help gona try the new 2103 bios and see what happens


-:[CC]:-

Update:

I flash it with 2103 and it dident help ; /

Update:

Gona try with some old bios now

BTW i use AFUDOS to flash with can it have anything to do with that ?


-:[CC]:-

Update:

I Flash it all the way back to Bios 1901 dident help and i cant get older bios in its just say *This bios is to old ore for a other MB* anyone know how i can get it to flash my MB with a older bios that 1901 Thx

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[mikepaul]

Orthos is by far the best tool for testing stability!

Then I'm fairly sure my recent crash issues came from using that bad PSU cable. The floppy isn't in use enough to destabilize things but three fans must have set things up so a sudden increase like launching a program while lots of stuff was going on left the system power-starved. One reason I stopped using it was the blue light on a fan it was powering dimmed, and only when I plugged it into the other cable did the light come back to normal. Only sheer stupidity made me give that cable another chance.

Bit even with my old settings, Orthos had no issues for hours and hours. I've only been running it for 2 hours lately since learing from my 410Mhz setting that if my RAM is unhappy I only need a few minutes to have Orthos die. I've moved the vCore up to 1.375V just for the heck of it, but I don't expect any more problems. I believe I have the best early version of E6300, one that OCs like a champ, so issues with other versions and vCore don't seem to apply. I guess.

If I see no more stability issues, I'll be gradually lowering the vCore until I'm back to Auto. Until I replace my RAM with something that can go over 410, this version of the board will be fine.

Thanks to all for the input...

[lawrywild]

hiya lawry do you know if the new 2103 bios has the unlocked multiplier for xtreme chips

Don't have an extreme chip to test, sorry.

[TR1GG3R]

just when i thought there was not going to be any more bios for this tempermental m/b another leaks well i know i aint gona use this till its on the asus site learned from the beta 2004 bios :p

[nicepun]

Anyone given a try to these new BIOS yet? Are we still hoping for mem sub timing? They are probably just another cpu code update.....

[GLENBOY]

Anyone given a try to these new BIOS yet? Are we still hoping for mem sub timing? They are probably just another cpu code update.....

tried the 2103 bios and on extreme chips the multiplier is locked at a max 10 still with this bios and no extra sub timings for memory so basically i think they have just updated the cpu codes for the new intel celerons so imho not worth updating too

[Huigie]

Anyone given a try to these new BIOS yet? Are we still hoping for mem sub timing? They are probably just another cpu code update.....

Tried it, found nothing different to 2004 other than that I could no longer get my 4x1GB sticks stable at their usual settings. Back to 2004 for me...

[nicepun]

I can't remember if the "Digital Home Mode" was an option on previous BIOS but is there now, that's all I can see that's new.

[bichi]

BIOS 2103
- P5WDH Rev 1.02G/66MOAG
- QX6700 (wk 35) @ 3.0G; FSB: 300

Nothing new that I could see, compared to 2004.
- same benchmark results
- same memory bandwith
- same temps

Will leave it installed for now.....

I can't remember if the "Digital Home Mode" was an option on previous BIOS but is there now, that's all I can see that's new.

"Digital Home" has been an option for awhile

[Liquid3D]

If anyone is interested I finished an overclocking review on the board at;
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=508

[monza1412]

If anyone is interested I finished an overclocking review on the board at;
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=508

excellent review


edit: I missed the MCH and FSB voltage in the overclocking test. Could you post them here?.
Also.. are you using SPD timings at the 400/445 fsb, or you manually set them?

[bichi]

BIOS 2103
- P5WDH on both ASUS Global site and FTP
- shows as "beta" with following description:

Version: 2103 - 2007/06/22 update
Description: P5W DH Deluxe Beta BIOS 2103
Latest beta BIOS.
File Size: 701.22 (KBytes)

GLOBAL: http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/...eluxe/2103.zip
FTP: ftp://dlsvr02.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/s...%20DH%20Deluxe