632fsb done on DFI P35-T2R by Oskar-Wu

[Brother Esau]

Forgive me for being a cynic, but I cannot help but imagine a skip full of discarded boards next to Oscar Wus desk before he found this one. I hope I'm wrong, but I know from experience you need a sence of humour to own a DFI board! (which hasn't stopped me from owning three in the past)

I don't know man I have built 11 D.F.I systems 8 Expert 2- N590 and a Infinity 975G/X and the only problem I ever had from any of the boards was from the Infinity which was the biggest POS and shocking after that many builds with D.F.I and never once issue one and never a complaint or peep from any of the customers either!

Its good to see this board has all Alluminum Caps on it Finally, I just hope that it can run @X8 signal for my Raid CAard and I will deffinately buy one!

[erwinz]

Thats so true.... If Oskar was handpicking hardware for this test, its not the mobo but a whole crapload of C2D lol..... I bet that same board wont do 560fsb with my E6600, if it can then Im buying one for sure.......

yup yup.. I ca't see anymore E6600 that can do 600+ fsb hope DFI is not that late.. but i'll wait for X38 hehehe

[drunkenmaster]

aww too bad its digital VRM... i dont think i ever want a digital VRM board again, lots of heat and lots of droop.
hopefully this 8-phase setup is designed well enough to handle load better then current designs.

what was the last board you had with digi vrm's? i can only remember one board the inq reminded me of, some IWILL board years and years ago.

a lot of people are pointing out now freaking well the 2900xt's overclock, very solid voltage, due to digi vrm's. the clocks and speeds on a 80nm process are amazing and in large part due to digi vrm's.

also its been hinted we aren't seeing the heatsinks for the board because they are looking for a patent. i would assume none of asus/gigabyte/msi are looking for patents as theirs are just basic heatpipe designs, so i would guess its not a "normal" heatpipe they are using, but something new.

[GMX]

I rma'd my dark for the noisy coils, but I still like the DFI bios and I think they will get something good going again. They still have a chance to be innovative with p35 and x38. At least it's on time with this release.

I think they should include sinks or heat pipes with the board, but leave them off. That pic of the naked board looks like fun to work with. Then when the user gets the board he can decide to attach them on or use his own. I think the enthusiast market would eat that up.

And the RMA rate rise from stupid or over excited users who overlooked this.... feature.

Seriously, stop being lazy. Get it off yourself and clean the left over paste/pads.

[Lestat]

yeah yeah same thing we've seen 100's of times before and the retail boards never do the same.

and i probably missed it but was that on air? STOCK AIR COOLING?

hold your applause until the retail units hit the shelves.

[mrcape]

A power supply can definitely assist in the squealing as it is the dirty power coming into components that causes it... the first 3 units there are all multiple rail PSU's with under 20A on each 12V. The Ultra X-3 is a single rail design but all ultra PSU's, while performing within spec, do not have particularily clean DC output. The X-3 in particular, when loaded lightly, as it would be in most systems, has rather dirty output:

248W
499W

While the board has something to do with it no doubt, the power supply it is paired with could make a huge difference, and is not so easily ruled out. With one PSU it may be intolerable and with another it could be just fine.

Had the squeal with Silverstone Zeus 750w. It's a crappy coil.

[mrcape]

And the RMA rate rise from stupid or over excited users who overlooked this.... feature.

Seriously, stop being lazy. Get it off yourself and clean the left over paste/pads.

Does that sort of user error happen on the 680 LT with no northbridge attached? I doubt it. All it would take is a sticker on the nb and sb like the warning over the socket.

[ziddey]

I'm really curious about why mobo manufacturers deploy vcore manipulation the way that they do. I've found dfi's mechanism to be the most decent, allowing for both fid and vid manipulation with c1e enabeld.

However, I wonder why no one chose to just directly manipulate vid for c2d's. I was looking at the datasheet and c2d's have vid provisions up to 1.600v. Maybe it can't be implemented in a way that's readable?? It's a real shame. Otherwise, there'd be real easy vcore manipulation with general software like rmclock. Would make the whole tweaking process a whole lot more convenient.

[Mekrel]

yeah yeah same thing we've seen 100's of times before and the retail boards never do the same.

and i probably missed it but was that on air? STOCK AIR COOLING?

hold your applause until the retail units hit the shelves.

we're talking about a bloke that knows more about bios' than you and I couldn't possibly imagine.

of course he has a higher chance of getting something out of the board that people in retail won't.

[NLight95]

Plus most X19xx & 8800XXX cards squeal as well

I'd have to agree. My old 1900XTX squealed and so does my brother's eVGA 8800 GTS. I got lucky with my BFG 8800 GTS OC--it doesn't squeal, even when oced.

I concur with others here: I won't buy another DFI board unless their CS and build quality improves.

[GazC]

I don't know man I have built 11 D.F.I systems 8 Expert 2- N590 and a Infinity 975G/X and the only problem I ever had from any of the boards was from the Infinity which was the biggest POS and shocking after that many builds with D.F.I and never once issue one and never a complaint or peep from any of the customers either!

Its good to see this board has all Alluminum Caps on it Finally, I just hope that it can run @X8 signal for my Raid CAard and I will deffinately buy one!

So are you expecting all of DFIs P35 mobos to break 600fsb on air?

I wasn't implying that all the boards were broken (there are other threads for that! ), I was implying that the board that Oscar used to hit 632 is most likely a cherry.

[Comminadian]

Had the squeal with Silverstone Zeus 750w. It's a crappy coil.

A power supply can definitely assist in the squealing as it is the dirty power coming into components that causes it... the first 3 units there are all multiple rail PSU's with under 20A on each 12V.

Zeus 750W Specs

I'd like to hear from someone using a 965-S with a non-noisy single rail PSU. Then we can rule that out.

Anyone with a Turbo-Cool 1kW-SR or even Silencer 750 on 965-S with this loud squealing?

[shimmishim]

oh gosh... is this board going to have issues with silverstone psu's as well?

[Comminadian]

oh gosh... is this board going to have issues with silverstone psu's as well?

I didn't mean to single out Silverstone PSU's.

The important question is: does having multiple 12V rails at 20A or less, or just noisy power cause the 965-S to squeal more than normal?

[Brother Esau]

You know allot of guy's say Oskar Wu gets nothing but hand picked cherry parts to do his tests with, well wouldn't you fellas say that would stand to reason so that he can find the absolute highest possibilities whith a Motherboard that he designs? I know if D.F.I were my company I would most deffinately provide Oskar Wu with the crem de la crem of components so he could do just that find the absolute max and highest performance properties of any board that he engineers!

Don't know about you guy's in toy land but I am a engineer and its perfectly logical to me because I would expect the same if I were designing the board and bios as I would not want to waste my time with inferior components and have to do it 5-6 times to get a good one to do my job right the first time!

[shimmishim]

I didn't mean to single out Silverstone PSU's.

The important question is: does having multiple 12V rails at 20A or less, or just noisy power cause the 965-S to squeal more than normal?

No no.

last time i read, the dfi dark didn't play nice with the silverstone psu's... and i have a silverstone... it'd suck to have to get a new psu just to be able to play with a dfi board

[sofarfrome]

I didn't mean to single out Silverstone PSU's.

The important question is: does having multiple 12V rails at 20A or less, or just noisy power cause the 965-S to squeal more than normal?

I do not believe there is an issue with DFI and silverstone. The board OCs excellently with the PSU. It is the damned squealing that is the problem and I also don't believe that is because of the PSU. I have used the Silverstone 750W moldular unit on 3 DFI P965-S boards and they all squealled. Although one was easier to live with. I also used a Corsair HX620 and that squealled on all 3 also. I also have used both of those PSUs on a multitude of other mobos. P965s, RD600s, 680i's of no less then 4 different manufacturers and none of them squealled.

[erwinz]

No no.

last time i read, the dfi dark didn't play nice with the silverstone psu's... and i have a silverstone... it'd suck to have to get a new psu just to be able to play with a dfi board

DFI is compatible with silverstone psu.. hehehe I'm using one and my board is DFI Infinity 965p-S

no squealing here..

some of my test.. easily past 7x500 straight boot from bios..

full screen here..
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/8...sb1132mdx0.png

and from my experience..


DFI Infinity 965P-s/965P

is compatible with HEC 550 Ab and Enermax Liberty 620

I can show some pictures if you like..

[Brother Esau]

I don't know about their Intel boards but I had a Silverstone ST60F modular and it worked like a champ on my D.F.I Expert system.

[safan80]

Heat pipes SUCK!!! DFI should offer a version of this board with no heat sinks of any kid so those of us that want to put alternate cooling on can do so without the hassle of removing combersome HP "systems".

I'd rather see companies release boards with waterblocks on them. Water should be a standard for cooling computers in my book. heatpipes are just a hassle now a days.

[erwinz]

Originally Posted by sofarfrome View Post
Heat pipes SUCK!!! DFI should offer a version of this board with no heat sinks of any kid so those of us that want to put alternate cooling on can do so without the hassle of removing combersome HP "systems".

I agree with this.. I will surely replace the stock cooling and replace it.. hehehe

hope DFI here us.. and thus slashing motherboard prices..

[whoodiestyle]

I'd rather see companies release boards with waterblocks on them. Water should be a standard for cooling computers in my book. heatpipes are just a hassle now a days.

or just have the option to include the heatsink or not and yes the heatpipes look bulky and silly and still suck

[lee143]

Hopefully this mobo will be good for the C2D as the Ultra-D was for the Athlon 64.

[GripS]

Using a OCZ 520watt Powerstream on my DFI p965-s. No squeals.

CPU@3.2ghz 1.42vBios 1.39-1.40Actual

RAM@800mhz 2.0v

[railmeat]

Whenever I see another DFI mobo, despite any RAVE, 500/600+ FSB, wow wow wow factors throwing everywhere, I got to ask "DOES THE MOTHERBOARD SQUEAL"?!?!?!

Oskar if you see this, please send a msg to DFI QC department and notify them the problem.

For people who doesn't get what I'm talking about, search DFI Infinity P965-S DARK and the word "squeal" or "squeel", "noise", "whisper" and you will understand the kind of annoying issue I'm refering to here.

You guys wouldn't believe how high of a RMA rate for this motherboard within such a short period of timeframe...Before I consider buying another DFI board again, quality will always be in my mind first. Unless you guys here are only looking for torturing and beating up the mobo for 2 weeks just for the sake of record, not many people will likely to keep this mobo for a while if DFI hasn't improve the quality of the board

yes agree,30 seconds of screenshot glory is nice but 24\7 use needs to be fun without headphones on.heh i wonder if it keeps rodents awayon a serious note,amazing clocks im seeing!!!nice work and progress!! to me dfi boards and bios are simply amazing bottom line,only issue is lame placement of chipset.seems to be always be dead smack in the way of a video card(sigh).i will buy 1 of these boards first second out if no squel is %100 confirmed by the masses .

at erwinz-
"DFI is not compatible with silverstone psu.. "

i ran my silverstone 850 watt on my old opty 165\dfi ultra d comp and ran amazing....its the same p\s holds all (3) 3dmark records with.