ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[~aoe~]

Oh yeah, I got 2 thermalright hr-05's and one hr-09 moset cooler (the one that got me into this mess!). How well do after maret coolers do with this board. I had high IHCR7 idle temps using the stck cooler even after cleaning and using Arctic Silver 5. The readings on SpeedFan were 32C to 37C idle after the pc was on for some time (41C on load). That's why I got the thermalright coolers, I was suspecting that this was the cause for my low overclock.

The HR-05 will fit fine on the SB, but will obstruct 1 of the sata ports if you don't have the SLi version of the HR-05.

I couldn't get the HR-05 to fit on the NB - the retaining mechanism isn't suitable. Also note that the HR-09 will not cover all the mosfets (although I don't see this as a big problem).

I decided to drop a 40mm fan on top of the NB (after cleaning and reseating). Seems to work ok.

Edit: corrected 'usb port' for 'sata port'

[lawrywild]

You really don't need much cooling for the SB, if any at all. I have a thermaltake extreme spirit II running fanless and it's barely warm to touch. I'm sure it's fine to run the ICH7R with no heatsink at all.

[mashakos]

thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.

Fair point - I am having a bad day!

feeling is mutual hehe. More like bad week!

Thanks for the tip on memory timings! Although I tried 340 1:1 at 3-3-3-9 and 340fsb 3:4 at 5-5-5-15 and the 3:4 setting had overall faster load times from start up to running some apps.
Something caught my eye in your article:

The ASUS P5W DH Deluxe mainboard has certain peculiarities as concerns support for memory at overclocking. That is, many memory frequency divisors do not work when the FSB is overclocked. Until recently we could use that mainboard at a 400MHz FSB only to test memory at either 600MHz or 800MHz (FSBRAM divisors of 4:3 and 1:1, respectively).

I was having problems getting the right ratio before my cpu burnt. I could only run the pc successfully at 1:1 or 3:4. Are there specific ratios that are best for the p5w dh?

would an e6700 go up to 3.8-3.9 with water cooling? If it can without hassles on this board I'll go for it - already wasted a lot of money anyway.

Where's the batch number? is it the 2 digits after the "L6"?

The HR-05 will fit fine on the SB, but will obstruct 1 of the usb ports if you don't have the SLi version of the HR-05.

you mean sata port? yes, it needs to be slightly rotated to allow for accessing that port.

I couldn't get the HR-05 to fit on the NB - the retaining mechanism isn't suitable. Also note that the HR-09 will not cover all the mosfets (although I don't see this as a big problem).

I set it up with the retainer from the stock cooler and it's seated ok, although moving the case around would not be a good idea... it can easily be "pushed out" with a slight nudge.

You really don't need much cooling for the SB, if any at all. I have a thermaltake extreme spirit II running fanless and it's barely warm to touch. I'm sure it's fine to run the ICH7R with no heatsink at all.

not for me, I'll explain why:

Whats your setup - could be your case that is causing the NB temperatures to creep although I run about 33-34 with MCH=1.65v and thats with a 40mm fan on the NB after applying AS5.

It's two things:
the case is a small desktop HTPC Silverstone.
It has an 8800GTX in it.
I did add a 120mm connected to the top of the case, but it blows only on the NB and CPU water block(which is water cooling anyway). So the back of the card is getting some air but the part where the heatsink and fan are has little airflow. I have an old pic before I put the 8800gtx in. The 8800gtx goes the whole length of the case, from the pci slots to the radiator:


So whenever the 8800gtx starts to heat up, it radiates it all on the SB. 54C and 65C are too much for a little SB I guess :p

[sesdave]

thanks for all the replies, I appreciate it.

feeling is mutual hehe. More like bad week!

Thanks for the tip on memory timings! Although I tried 340 1:1 at 3-3-3-9 and 340fsb 3:4 at 5-5-5-15 and the 3:4 setting had overall faster load times from start up to running some apps.
Something caught my eye in your article:

I was having problems getting the right ratio before my cpu burnt. I could only run the pc successfully at 1:1 or 3:4. Are there specific ratios that are best for the p5w dh?

:p

Note the article conclusion was optimum CPU/memory performance 1:1 @400 FSB with tightest timings unless the FSB was clocked higher. It implies no gain of running @400 FSB with a 4:5 lots of people are running okay with 4:5 dividers above 400 but the board/BIOS doesnt work well with all memory. Re temperature from GTX -have a look at the Akasa exaust blower - if you mount it a coupl.e of slots below your card you should get a temperature drop. Also worth replacing the paste on teh card with AS5.Are you running the fan ay 100% - if not use Riva to do so - that will drop the temps quite a bit. E6600 vs E6700 is an interesting google! Personally I would sticj with an E6600 - there is no guarantee that an E6700 will overclock higher.

[sbinh]

This board runs fine at FSB=400 (with FSB:RAM = 1:1) ....
To run RAM at 500, FSB cannot be reached 400MHz ....

I tried to run FSB:RAM = 4:5 (400:500).... It booted to windows ... ran SuperPI tests .... but failed orthor tests that test RAM ...(BLEND, LARG FFT or custom)... Screw it ... P5B-Dlx is much better than this board.

[mashakos]

Note the article conclusion was optimum memory performance 1:1 @400 FSB unless the FSB was clocked higher. It implies no gain of running @400 FSB with a 4:5 lots of people are running okay with 4:5 dividers above 400 but the board/BIOS doesnt work well with all memory. Re temperature from GTX -have a look at the Akasa exaust blower - if you mount it a coupl.e of slots below your card you should get a temperature drop. Also worth replacing the paste on teh card with AS5.Are you running the fan ay 100% - if not use Riva to do so - that will drop the temps quite a bit.

I have the card at 100% with riva yes. It still doesn't help with the SB, I think the card's temps are affecting it because there's no airflow. I was thinking of water cooling the card, I'll get the blower in the meantime.

I'll ceck out the CPUs tomorrow, see what batches they have *fingers crossed*

[sesdave]

I have the card at 100% with riva yes. It still doesn't help with the SB, I think the card's temps are affecting it because there's no airflow. I was thinking of water cooling the card, I'll get the blower in the meantime.

I'll ceck out the CPUs tomorrow, see what batches they have *fingers crossed*

Stick a 40mm fan on the SB - its effective and cheap. I take it you have peeled of the shiny covers from the NB/SB and as you have w/c stuck the little fan supplied with the P5W on the RAM heatsink

[mashakos]

Stick a 40mm fan on the SB - its effective and cheap. I take it you have peeled of the shiny covers from the NB/SB and as you have w/c stuck the little fan supplied with the P5W on the RAM heatsink

I already bought and fitted the HR-05
Just waiting to get the CPU to test everything. If temps are still high I can try an 80mm on the hr-05

[MrMonstah]

Hey guys,

I recently bought a new pc, and put it together using this Mobo.

I have 2 Raptor HDD with a Raid 0 Setup (using a Raid adapter), My Dvd-Rom is connected to the IHC7 IDE port, and i have a separate IDE HDD connected to the JMicron IDE port.

My issue is that i cant seem to get IDE HDD to work (The one connected to the JMicron IDE). In bootup, the Jmicron device detects it, in Device manager it is detected as a SCSI HDD, but i cant access it via My Computer.

Is anyone else having this issue?

[sesdave]

Hey guys,

I recently bought a new pc, and put it together using this Mobo.

I have 2 Raptor HDD with a Raid 0 Setup (using a Raid adapter), My Dvd-Rom is connected to the IHC7 IDE port, and i have a separate IDE HDD connected to the JMicron IDE port.

My issue is that i cant seem to get IDE HDD to work (The one connected to the JMicron IDE). In bootup, the Jmicron device detects it, in Device manager it is detected as a SCSI HDD, but i cant access it via My Computer.

Is anyone else having this issue?

I had the same issue and swapped the DVD and IDE over which worked for me. In the end I changed everything to SATA drives and SATA DVD and ran of the ICH7. The Jmicron controller seems to get a lot of issues.

[lawrywild]

Hey guys,

I recently bought a new pc, and put it together using this Mobo.

I have 2 Raptor HDD with a Raid 0 Setup (using a Raid adapter), My Dvd-Rom is connected to the IHC7 IDE port, and i have a separate IDE HDD connected to the JMicron IDE port.

My issue is that i cant seem to get IDE HDD to work (The one connected to the JMicron IDE). In bootup, the Jmicron device detects it, in Device manager it is detected as a SCSI HDD, but i cant access it via My Computer.

Is anyone else having this issue?

Have you activated the drive in Computer Management in Windows?

[zsamz_]

i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

[sesdave]

i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

Not quite true - Its all down to what memory you have and whether your CPU will o/c past 380. I run 400 FSB 1:1 with corsair XMS on manual settings quite happily as do many other people . Why did you change boards as the P5B can generally run higher FSB?

[lawrywild]

i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

It's the chipset, 975x basically sucks for ram clocking whereas 965 is good. Thank god that it's a faster chipset anyway..

[MrMonstah]

Have you activated the drive in Computer Management in Windows?

If i do it that way, does the HDD get formated? because i backed up all my old data (from old pc) on this HDD

[eblaster101]

can someone please tell me which controls the power to USB, when i use loads of usb ports my computer reboots. is it ICH or MCH i think i need to increase one but dont know which.

[zsamz_]

Not quite true - Its all down to what memory you have and whether your CPU will o/c past 380. I run 400 FSB 1:1 with corsair XMS on manual settings quite happily as do many other people . Why did you change boards as the P5B can generally run higher FSB?

the geniuses @ asus put the pci slot close too the pci-e slot
once i put my card in i lose a pci slot i need 3 pci slots
i was debating the comando and the p5w the remote n wifi sold me lol

i know the cpu can do over 400fsb and the memory can do over 1000mhz

i got 2 more days to return the board i wished the retailer had a p35 board
the worst part is on the p5k you lose a pci slot after installing the video card lol

its weird the pc is plenty fast i cust cant resist overclocking it its my sickness

if i keep the board any suggestions for a cpu that likes this board better?

[Liquid3D]

i'll start by sayin hi all great forum
ive read most of the posts in this thread
so i gather the only way to go past the 380fsb barrrier is to set memory to spd
i went from a p5b to the p5w all i can say is i'm dissapointed with overclocking results


doig some reading and i thing the folks at asus need to fix the bois timings for the memory
wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

anyone here get past these problems
runnin an e6400 do other cpus like this board better ? lol or maybe is it my memory?

Well that sort of makes me wonder why I've had similair problems. I have a kit of Mushking 8500 that di 1200MHz on my Asus M2N32-SLI n that was with the bad 903 BIOS which eneded frying a stck! On the P5W DH I can't get Mushkin beyong 1080MHz? Of coure they replaced a stick and it's probably that stik holdin me back. I have to try the flash SPD program, but if the stick is dead I guess no go, but perhaps fklashing the new stick they sent maybe i has different SPD settings?


Anway I've got my E6400 to 425FSB on this board that was with a pre 1701 BIOS. Now with 1901 it seems ok and t's running some old Tacer 5300 beyond 800MHz, but have had some memory problems of course I need some dam high speed memory, something like 9600.

[lawrywild]

It's not that stick holding you back, it's the 975x chipset holding you back.

[experttech2007]

wierd my memory went past 1000mhz on old board @ 5-5-5-15 @2.1i cant get to 970 on the p5w @2.2v "ocz plat pc6400 4-4-4-15"

Try setting mem voltage to 1.9 - NOT 1.8 or 2.0 but 1.9

[zsamz_]

Try setting mem voltage to 1.9 - NOT 1.8 or 2.0 but 1.9

tried no go

i got it running @ 900mhz@4-5-4-15 2,1v
my max on this board is 413fsb
on my p5b i did 425 with 1,4v

[cholo777]

hi everyone
I have just recently bought a p5w dh deluxe as i have read many good things about this mobo,but i have a big problem,my fsb appears to be locked,cant shift it from 200,does not give me any options,
thought it was the bios 1506 so i updated it to 2004 but the problem is still there,i am a bit confused,i have e4300 which was fine on the p5n-e sli board i had other than a few limitations on ram.
would really appreciate any help or suggestion with this as i dont have any ideas to be honest,
wanted to tweak and play but dont think i will for a bit,
thanx in advance
regs
paul

[sesdave]

hi everyone
I have just recently bought a p5w dh deluxe as i have read many good things about this mobo,but i have a big problem,my fsb appears to be locked,cant shift it from 200,does not give me any options,
thought it was the bios 1506 so i updated it to 2004 but the problem is still there,i am a bit confused,i have e4300 which was fine on the p5n-e sli board i had other than a few limitations on ram.
would really appreciate any help or suggestion with this as i dont have any ideas to be honest,
wanted to tweak and play but dont think i will for a bit,
thanx in advance
regs
paul

I have to ask this as you have said the BIOS dosnt give you any options - I take it that you have set A1 overclocking to manual to get the overclocking parameters for FSB and VCore etc.

[cholo777]

I have to ask this as you have said the BIOS dosnt give you any options - I take it that you have set A1 overclocking to manual to get the overclocking parameters for FSB and VCore etc.

yes m8
i did that, i thought about that after i wrote the thread,i knew someone would ask,lol,bit of a mystery this,do you have any ideas,need to get this sorted
regs
paul

[experttech2007]

tried no go

i got it running @ 900mhz@4-5-4-15 2,1v
my max on this board is 413fsb
on my p5b i did 425 with 1,4v

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