Ati Q3 - Total annihilation against Nvidia

[G3XC]

The real counter Nvidia attack

Sources close to DAAMIT confirmed that the company is about to start a mission called Total annihilation against Nvidia.

R600XT and the RV630 and RV610 are just the beginning and in Q3 ATI will introduce RV670 the Radeon HD 2950 PRO and R650 based Radeon HD 2950XTX and XT cards. This is the time where ATI hopes to really hurt Nvidia.

Q3 starts in July and ends in September and by this time ATI will finally ramp up the production of RV610 and RV630 chips and will have a lot of products to fight Nvidia, including the mobile ones.

The only question is can ATI stick to this timeframe, we hope it can for its own good. Still Nvidia wont be resting and sleeping so you can expect a nice fight at the end of this summer.

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[MarlboroMan]

let 'em fight!

prices will go down

[Eastcoasthandle]

3rd Quarter So what do ATI do now? It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight!

[Kanten]

I think total annihilation first requires a product that beats the competition, which R600 is not looking like.

AMD has gotten amazingly c0cky lately considering their position in the performance race.

[gdogg]

I think total annihilation first requires a product that beats the competition, which R600 is not looking like.

AMD has gotten amazingly c0cky lately considering their position in the performance race.

With good reason, when you think about quad cores, and the octo cores. How is intel gonna be able to keep up with hyper transport and an intergrated memory controller. A fsb can only go so far.

Now on the gpu front they have added lots of cool features. Even though its not a gtx, its not like nvidia hasn't been in the less performance boat on top end cards before.

The gtx was a huge jump from previous generations. Ex. 9800 pro vs FX 5700

[EternityZX9]

I think total annihilation first requires a product that beats the competition, which R600 is not looking like.

AMD has gotten amazingly c0cky lately considering their position in the performance race.

QFT

This is all just boring talking.

[pawl]

total rubbish more like it. yet another attempt at getting a little mindshare back.

[gdogg]

QFT

This is all just boring talking.

haha, nothing wrong with competition. If they just give up like many seem to want, expect 8800GTX die shinks for the next 3 years before getting a large performance improvement again.

[Face]

Total Annihilation was my favorite RTS game. Actually I haven't played much since so it's still is

[alexio]

With good reason, when you think about quad cores, and the octo cores. How is intel gonna be able to keep up with hyper transport and an intergrated memory controller. A fsb can only go so far.

Advanced prefetching and a good cache are much more important. AMD chose an MC above a better prefetch for one reason only: R&D cost. Intel could very soon use an MC and a better bus technology as they are relatively cheap to develop, they haven't done it yet because they hardly add performance even with the quad cores.

Now on the gpu front they have added lots of cool features. Even though its not a gtx, its not like nvidia hasn't been in the less performance boat on top end cards before.

The gtx was a huge jump from previous generations. Ex. 9800 pro vs FX 5700

Very very true. I hear a lot of people complain about the 8800U specs. It's just that people don't see what an achievement the 8800GTS and 8800GTX really are. There isn't much improvement possible, as there isn't much to tweak for yet (hint: very few DX10 games). Just ramping up the vcore isn't really a possibility. The G80 is an example of the 90nm process pushed to the limed; just the physical size of it is simply amazing for any micro processor.

[gdogg]

Advanced prefetching and a good cache are much more important. AMD chose an MC above a better prefetch for one reason only: R&D cost. Intel could very soon use an MC and a better bus technology as they are relatively cheap to develop, they haven't done it yet because they hardly add performance even with the quad cores.


Very very true. I hear a lot of people complain about the 8800U specs. It's just that people don't see what an achievement the 8800GTS and 8800GTX really are. There isn't much improvement possible, as there isn't much to tweak for yet (hint: very few DX10 games). Just ramping up the vcore isn't really a possibility. The G80 is an example of the 90nm process pushed to the limed; just the physical size of it is simply amazing for any micro processor.

Yah, 8800 gtx was a huge achievement.

About the processors, cache does help, but under load it is noticeable to me, that the 3.6Ghz 1600Mhz fsb , e6600 c2d with ddr2 1000mhz 5-4-4-9 2X1Gb just is bogged down compared to a opteron 165 939 @ 2.6Ghz with ddr 530 2-2-2-5 2X512MB.

Especially when running prime 95, the opteron is just so much more responsive.

Another reason for the IMC was to cut down on errors caused by the memory controller making it easier for consumers and motherboard manufacturers alike.

[DeathReborn]

Total Annihilation was my favorite RTS game. Actually I haven't played much since so it's still is

QFT, it's a gaming great that is greatly underappreciated.

They should have titled it "This Means War" which was a bit of a damp squib just like being late to the market is for AMD.

[revenant]

3rd Quarter So what do ATI do now? It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight!

heh.. reminds me of that part in DeathProof (Grindhouse)

"you know what happens to people who carry knives?!?? they get shot!!"

[nn_step]

The more competition the better but I do suggest that nVidia fix that fu ck up that nVidia calls CUDA

[safan80]

they won't even have the XTX out with the rest if the cards, so ATI has already broken the promise that they made of having the whole r6xx launched together.

[andyisc00l]

Gotta love competition, finally...Nvidia takes over for a few months while ATI fumbles a little and all of a sudden Nvidia thinks it's ok to release an $830 graphics card. Now if we only had someone that could compete with microsoft...

[Zytek_Fan]

Let the price (and performance maybe?) wars begin

[Kanten]

Let them sucker punch each other on prices. Papa needs another 8800.

[metro.cl]

like nvidia is going to stay and do nothing

[bluep3ace]

omg i don't know, i don't know...
x2950pro vs x2900xt?

>.<

[dinos22]

like nvidia is going to stay and do nothing

lol maybe they are hoping nvidia would heheh

[Bounc3y]

Let the price (and performance maybe?) wars begin

amen!

[Brother Esau]

3rd Quarter So what do ATI do now? It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight!

lol

[lapdog]

What is the price of a x2600xt? And how will it perform? If it's a match to a x1900xt for $120 they have a real winner. That's what I want for a HTPC that can play games too.

[BenT23]

Wow, total annihilation are big words considering the R600 hasn't even reached the market yet and it's Q2. Fat chance.