I think it was not exactly:Originally Posted by Shintai
Board AM3 supports DDR3
Boards AM2, AM2+ support DDR2.
Processors AM2, AM2+ have DDR2 controller
Processor AM3 has BOTH DDR2 & DDR3 controllers.
So, there is picture explaining everything:
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...you forgot that AM2+ combined with K10 will support channel interleaving. Two indepenedent memory controllers will allow for better command efficiency, lower loaded latency, and concurrent reads and writes. See post # 99.
Just because the memory slots aren't pin compatible, doesn't mean the IMC cannot support both architectures. The lack of pin compatibility only means the supported memory standard would be determined by the motherboard.
But to answer your question, it no longer seems like AM3 CPUs will be backward compatible:
http://www.dailytech.com/AMD+45nm+DD...rticle7132.htmPrevious AMD documentation indicated that AM2 and AM3 would be forward/backward compatible -- yet AMD engineers claim the AM3 alluded to in 2006 is not the same AM3 referenced in the 2008 launch schedule.
"At the time AM3 was the likely candidate to become AM2+," claimed one field application engineer familiar with AMD's socket migration. "[AMD] wanted to keep the socket name associated with DDR2 memory and backwards compatibility, but AM3 emphasizes DDR3 support."
Last edited by _damien_; 05-08-2007 at 01:08 PM.
The INQ is confused because first K10, Barcelona, does not have HTT3.0. So if sockett AM2+ is meant for K10 and if K10 dosnt have HTT3.0 then maybe sockett AM2+ is not HTT3.0 only sockett. But as we all know INQ is easly confused. Barcelona is server chip and as the first K10 chip to help backwards compatablity its comes with HTT1.0, plus save time and money for AMD. I dont think i need to explain AM2+ sockett again.
Also Sockett G or should i call it Sockett S1G1 or just Sockett S1 (The Turion X2 sockett) is just just the mobile version of AM2+ not a replacement of S1207.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/41407.pdf
AM3 sockett will be physically differnt then AM2+ so that someone dosnt put AM2+ CPU into it. DDR3 has different pins to DDR2 so the motherboard will only support one memory type, seems pointless then for AMD to waste silicon on DDR2 support when it really is a waste.
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"agena" quad core at 125W? is this right? if it is dat's gonna git HOT.
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early AMD X2 and dual core opterons operated at what..? 110. Not too far off. Some of the lower clocked chips are in 2 digits, no?
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I heard somewhere that AMD are going to use Intel's measurements for TDP. If so, that explains the power draw from 120W to 98W.
depends on the load state and application used. They can easily surpass their TDP in certain conditions while they can aswell dissipate less than their TDP, both under full load.
I'm eagerily waiting for these CPU's to pop out, as i heard they'll get a huge, incredible, boost in rendering apps over current top CPUs. Finger crossed
We don't know that for sure, but ATM I agree that incompatibility seems to be the most likely scenario. But yeah, if the CPUs will be incompatible, they'll almost certainly make the sockets physically different as well.
Not necessarily. Once again, if the IMC of AM3 CPUs were to support both memory standards, a possibility which we cannot rule out, the rest would only depend on the motherboard's DIMM slots. So provided AM3 CPUs will be compatible with both socket AM2 and AM3, support for both memory standards wouldn't be a waste, but a must.
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http://dailytech.com/AMD+Claims+Quad...rticle7232.htm
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ok, fine, pin mod then lol
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More pretty pictures of mobos used in the demo:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...e%2F37143.html
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Wow, those are some tiny chipset coolers! I really love the power efficiency of the ATI/AMD chipsets, I wouldn't be surprised if the AMD quadfather chpiset draws more than 100w less power than the stupid Nvidia Asus one (it uses two northbridges, no?)
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