Official HD 2900 Discussion Thread

[ahmad]

There is no way the r600 is like this. Either some nvidiots are benching with bias, or they did something wrong.

ATI would never release something so crappy... At least I hope not.

[Sanborn]

I have a question.....

How is Dailytech the only site that has benchmarks for XT OR XTX....and if they are the only site, why do they claim they had "limited time".

Did ATI just show up at their doors and tell them the embargo didn't apply to them, so here is a video card for 12 hours?

[Mudkips]

GDDR4 have weaker timings than GDDR3, but that would not hurt performance that much. I call this real BS. Maybe card didn't switched to 3D mode during benchmarks. Remember 8800GTX first samples with wrong resistor value?
I wonder how much Nvidia paid for Dailytech to do all this.

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[Sanborn]

don't use ascii art.

Especially when I can't even tell what it is.

[ahmad]

Looks like a guys face.

[Kasparz]

Kasparz, I would shoot that birdie tbh.

That birdie have nomex armor
I don't like nvidia cards at all. I had lot of Nvidia cards, lastest one was 7800gt, but i prefer ATi. I just like their style.
There are things that i dislike in Nvidia and thats holding me off.

[informal]

Mudkips keeps posting spam in his posts(is that a plural for 4 ??).Anyhow ,he should stop that asci spam.

[gdogg]

Don't worry amd, I am buying your hd2900xt anyway.

Why? Because of the free FSAA at low res, like what I am doing 1280X720, that HD video decoder chip thingy, the folding@home on the card ability, and last but not least, I felt the 680 pain, and i'll buy ati now thanks.

[keiths]

I have a question.....

How is Dailytech the only site that has benchmarks for XT OR XTX....and if they are the only site, why do they claim they had "limited time".

Did ATI just show up at their doors and tell them the embargo didn't apply to them, so here is a video card for 12 hours?

Cards are seeded throughout before release, including to reviewers, with attached NDAs. Other times reviewers get cards through board makers, etc. Whether the reviewer broke their NDA or are keeping their source secret, these are the likely scenarios if they're the only ones with the card. They could also be lying with bogus results or ATI/AMD could have sanctioned the review.

Regardless of what the actual scenario is, the sample size is too small to determine how valid these results are. I'd withhold judgement until more reviews are released to get a consensus.

[awdrifter]

I tend to believe the results. Cuz if the card is really good, AMD won't be so secretive about it. It's not like it's going to take away any sales from their own X1900 series, especially when it's so close to the launch. So I think the card is doing this bad and AMD is trying to keep it secretive for as long as possible and maybe doing some last minute driver tweaks hoping to get a little bit more out of it, but that's about it.

[flippin_waffles]

I think you'd be crazy to think these numbers are anywhere close to what we will see when the product arrives in the middle of May.

[Scimitar]

The Dailytech review stated that the XTX card they tested was one of the old OEM cards produced earlier. Lets wait and see what the final RETAIL XTX card can do. I bet the clocks are higher, 800MHZ+ for the core maybe.

[deathman20]

Eh torn on the results myself.

It really doesn't look impressive on that. Yet without any sort of DX10 game or benchmark to go on its hard to say really whats the better card.

Some of the tests look fake. I'd really like to know what test they ran for HL2 EP1.

[grimREEFER]

this explains why nvidia's roadmap mentions no future cards till sm4.1. 8800gtx is good enough till then!

[lowfat]

There is no way the r600 is like this. Either some nvidiots are benching with bias, or they did something wrong.

ATI would never release something so crappy... At least I hope not.

orly? They did the EXACT same thing with the R520/X1800s.

[Sparky]

orly? They did the EXACT same thing with the R520/X1800s.

Does that mean that maybe there is an X1900 type around the corner for the R600?

[Fatal Error]

Worst are yet to come,i hear that they will come from Spain....

[DataNusse]

Well its all really sadd. 7 month of waiting and hype and they give a card that cant even beat nvidias 8800GTX! ATI, you can do better!!

I don't like nvidia cards at all. I had lot of Nvidia cards, lastest one was 7800gt, but i prefer ATi. I just like their style.
There are things that i dislike in Nvidia and thats holding me off.

Amen brother! I'm like that too, but about ATI.

[TomodaK]

I'm gonna wait for more benches and from better sites till I make my final judgment, but it does not look good. There is one interesting thing I'd like to point out though. On the comments on DailyTech, some guy pointed out that he's never seen another site manage to get almost 100fps with an 8800GTX in Oblivion running 1900x with all the options, 70 is the fps they generally get in an indoor benchmark of the game and the outdoor scenes are much more demanding and numerous people agreed with him. I'm about to go check some sites and see if that's true, if it is then something isn't quite right over there

[ahmad]

orly? They did the EXACT same thing with the R520/X1800s.

But the x1800 was a superior card.

Anyways, we need numbers to end this monkey business.

[malik22]

Why are so many people in denial Nvidia is just better nowadays like ati was better years ago.

[situman]

This is already a generation behind so its not a really fair comparo. Though I wonder if ATI will ever catch up. Like AMD with its Hammer, ATI rested on its laurels for a whee bit too long.

[xB0n3s]

I'll wait with my judgement till Ati gets all bugs fixed and better drivers, but if it's really turns out that R600 can only barely compete with G80 than I should be happy that I didn't wait and took 8800 GTX...

[Periander6]

I think all this conspiracy hypothesizing is hilarious. Think people! If the R600 was all that, why the stupid NDA?? It made zero sense. It's not like they could be afraid of cannibalizing their own sales when they currently have nothing in the $300+ market atm to cannibalize anyway.

The writing was on the wall about this for months. The rest was all fanboi hype. The mid/low end products are 10x more important anyway.

[eXceeded]

I think all this conspiracy hypothesizing is hilarious. Think people! If the R600 was all that, why the stupid NDA?? It made zero sense. It's not like they could be afraid of cannibalizing their own sales when they currently have nothing in the $300+ market atm to cannibalize anyway.

The writing was on the wall about this for months. The rest was all fanboi hype. The mid/low end products are 10x more important anyway.

I will quote you when it is released and we get real benchies...