MCW30 "hardmount" coming soon

[commie]

We have .120" thick spacers that can mount between the bracket and the body, effectively raising the brackets by .120". This will provide ample clearance for the caps. Raising kit would include 6 spacers, 4 for the brackets and 2 more to stack with the hardmount spacers, as well as 4 longer screws. You can also DIY this by procuring nylon spacers 240 OD x 125 ID x 120 Height, and 4 1/2" 4-40 socket screws.

Sounds good to me.

Will this be included in the new hardmount kit or is a separate purchase required? And if so what is the mcw30 spacers-and-screws kit called?

As I live in the UK the chances of buying anything like this over here are remote BTW so I may have to go grovelling for favours from Michelle again....

[gabe]

It's quite possible that those style of hooks with thumbscrews might actually fit through the mounting slots on a MCW30... it would be nice to see Swiftech offer something like this or better.

this is no good. we tried in the past with the MCW20 (http://www.swiftech.com/assets/image...P-266X413.jpg). These systems tend to breaks the hooks, specially with Xtreme users trying to tighten these to death ... that's why we went to wire clips instead.

problem became so common that Joe (overclockers.com) even wrote a "how to fix broken motherboard loops" guide..(http://www.overclockers.com/tips1180/)

so don't expect us to go that route again.

[virtualrain]

I've not tried the wire clips... but I suspect they would not hold such a small block stable with 1/2" tubing. Perhaps a bigger base to the block with shims and stronger wire clips might make this solution better? But that's a whole new block design.

Gabe, are you guys going to have anything to address this or are you just throwing in the towel on this market segment and hoping that it doesn't get used any more?

Alternatively, can you offer those hooks for those that might want to try this with an MCW-30?

[JeffnWV]

Gabe,
Will the mounting bolts be the same as the current blocks' hardware?

I have 2 of these blocks on order and want to get them in the loop and wondered if I can just swap out parts on the inside of the mobo and not have to take it (the motherboard) out again.

[nealh]

i think this problem is only on the asus.

I didnt run into any cap problem on my evga.



Infact this is the picture i showed gabe, when he got his spark.

the top screw is mounted flush with nut at bottom. The bottom one is regular mounted special way. I realized by having one mount hard mounted, its easier to mount the block because you only have 1 moving corner now.

Also i +1 the DD maze4 on the NB. I also had absolutely no issues... well minus 1 resistor on the corner, but a spacer was all it needed.



and hehe brass nuts own.

OT:
how well does the crab cooler work on the ram? I cut one up a couple yrs back to cool the PMWIC on my DFI SLI DR..very quite

[NaeKuh]

it works fairly well. B4 the rams hs, would get very warm to the touch.

with the crab cooler, its just a tad bit warm. The LED's are kinda annoying tho. i killed the top 2 antena led's i cant kill the internal fan one.

[gabe]

Gabe,
Will the mounting bolts be the same as the current blocks' hardware?

I have 2 of these blocks on order and want to get them in the loop and wondered if I can just swap out parts on the inside of the mobo and not have to take it (the motherboard) out again.

You just re-use the nylon thumb nuts for a top mount (Northbridge style installation). You can also re-use the existing posts but you will need to remove the 4-40 counter-nuts, and install the threaded nylon spacers coming with the hardmount hardware instead. You need to remove the motherboard for a bottom-mount - meaning counter-nuts fastened to the back of the motherboard (Southbridge).

The hardmount hardware is now available and can be ordered online effective May 1st (also read "Upgrade path" below). The brackets "raising kit" is also available separately; see discussion with naekuh above on this subject matter.

HARDMOUNT HARDWARE UPGRADE PATH (USA ONLY):

1/ MCW30 Purchased within last 30 days:
From May 1st and until May 31st, 2007 anyone who purchased an MCW30 with an invoice dated from April 1st to April 30th, 2007 will receive the harmount hardware for free (by mail). Simply email copy of your original invoice to Michelle@swiftech.com as well as your mailing address.

2/ MCW30 purchased earlier than April 1st:
From May 1st and until May 31st, 2007 customers who bought an MCW30 prior to April 1st, 2007 only need to pay for postage, and we will send the hardmount hardware for free. Simply send a self-addressed stamped (52cents) enveloppe to:
Swiftech
C/O Michelle - MCW30 upgrade
3700 Industry ave., suite 104
Lakewood, CA 90712

HARDMOUNT HARDWARE UPGRADE PATH (OTHER THAN USA)
Upgrade kits are being sent to participating dealers worldwide. Shipping and upgrade policies are left at the liberty of the local dealers. If your local dealer does not participate in the upgrade program, Swiftech will mail you the hardware for a nominal postage fee of $5.00

Since we are of the subject of the MCW30, I also wanted to pass on an effective technique to use that block for both NB and SB, using our "F" fittings. Since there is no need for much flow to cool these chipsets effectively, it is possible to use the "F" fittings utilizing 1/4" (ID) tubing as shown in the picture below. This will preserve high-flow in your 1/2" line, with the added benefit of reducing clutter in your sytem, as shown in the images below. Also notice how well the MCW30 fits on the EVGA Southdridge with an 8800 GTX installed.

Enjoy!

[nealh]

You just re-use the nylon thumb nuts for a top mount (Northbridge style installation). You can also re-use the existing posts but you will need to remove the 4-40 counter-nuts, and install the threaded nylon spacers coming with the hardmount hardware instead. You need to remove the motherboard for a bottom-mount - meaning counter-nuts fastened to the back of the motherboard (Southbridge).

The hardmount hardware is now available and can be ordered online effective May 1st (also read "Upgrade path" below). The brackets "raising kit" is also available separately; see discussion with naekuh above on this subject matter.

HARDMOUNT HARDWARE UPGRADE PATH (USA ONLY):

1/ MCW30 Purchased within last 30 days:
From May 1st and until May 31st, 2007 anyone who purchased an MCW30 with an invoice dated from April 1st to April 30th, 2007 will receive the harmount hardware for free (by mail). Simply email copy of your original invoice to Michelle@swiftech.com as well as your mailing address.

2/ MCW30 purchased earlier than April 1st:
From May 1st and until May 31st, 2007 customers who bought an MCW30 prior to April 1st, 2007 only need to pay for postage, and we will send the hardmount hardware for free. Simply send a self-addressed stamped (52cents) enveloppe to:
Swiftech
C/O Michelle - MCW30 upgrade
3700 Industry ave., suite 104
Lakewood, CA 90712

Now this is customer service!!!!!

[JeffnWV]

Gabe, can the screws be brought through from the back side of the mobo and fastened from inside? or are they held in place somehow with the threaded bushing? Are the SB stand off's screwed in from underneath with very short screws and then those same very short screws from the top hold the plate down (2 screws per standoff?)

I am asking to learn whether we can remove the MWC30's without having to take mobo's out each time? my SB screw is shortened by using a nut underneath

I just fab'd my own standoff's and am looking at Swiftechs...

[commie]

Aaarghhhhh!!!!!!



What's that GPU cooler called please, and when can I buy one?

[gabe]

Gabe, can the screws be brought through from the back side of the mobo and fastened from inside? or are they held in place somehow with the threaded bushing?

The threaded standoffs bolt the posts in place onto the motherboard. You only have to remove the MOBO once, then you can install/uninstall the 30 twice a day if you want :-) ... BUT if you have a back mount (in other words if you fasten the block from the back of the motherboard) of course you will ALWAYS have to remove the MOBO if you want to uninstall the block. Only, the threaded standoffs are now attached to the MCW30 bracket instead of the motherboard posts. go to: http://www.swiftech.com/products/ins...e_mcw30-hm.pdf the schematics are pretty clear I think.

[JeffnWV]

Thx Man!

Edited: Looks like SB reinstallation still needs to be with the mobo out in order to get to the nuts. I'm wondering if the screws and nuts can be reversed so the nuts on SB can be put on from inside? is the nylon standoff on the SB threaded also and can lock the screw tight if it were reversed? and are the screws short enuff to clear the gfx card on evga mobo's?

[JeffnWV]

Aaarghhhhh!!!!!!



What's that GPU cooler called please, and when can I buy one?

they sure make some sweet look'n stuff don't they!?

Looks alot like the Apogee GTX styling..mebe it's the Apogee GPX

[gabe]

Thx Man!

Edited: Looks like SB reinstallation still needs to be with the mobo out in order to get to the nuts. I'm wondering if the screws and nuts can be reversed so the nuts on SB can be put on from inside? is the nylon standoff on the SB threaded also and can lock the screw tight if it were reversed? and are the screws short enuff to clear the gfx card on evga mobo's?

it is indeed possible to to use what I call the top mount on the SB also; we do include 4-40 nuts that have a lower profile than the 4-40 thumb nuts, and you could fasten the assembly with these nuts instead, but the screws will protrude just a little bit.

[JeffnWV]

good deal. I like that threaded nylon spacer...and we could always use more washers on the back side of the mobo to shorten that protruding screw!

Outstanding job Gabe! you makin' alot of happy campers!

[gabe]

Aaarghhhhh!!!!!!



What's that GPU cooler called please, and when can I buy one?

Stealth is the name
Hush hush is the game

[Makubex_GB]

I've not tried the wire clips... but I suspect they would not hold such a small block stable with 1/2" tubing. Perhaps a bigger base to the block with shims and stronger wire clips might make this solution better? But that's a whole new block design.

Gabe, are you guys going to have anything to address this or are you just throwing in the towel on this market segment and hoping that it doesn't get used any more?

Alternatively, can you offer those hooks for those that might want to try this with an MCW-30?

This is the loop I had before. As you can see, the single wire clip was holding the block just fine. Temps were great, I had no contact issues. I suggest you try it.

[ranker]

Stealth is the name
Hush hush is the game

I think I just exploded in my pants. That looks awesome. I'm curious if it's Alu plated as well ala the GTX? or did you guys decide to dodge the firestorm and use a diff material?

[JeffnWV]

looks like sli will need elbows...

edit: I take that back...elbows would just run it into the back side of the other gfx card

hmmm...mebe a fixed "stealthy" and adjustable (for slot space) nickle plated copper pipe.

I wonder what they got cook'n?

[MrToad]

Aaarghhhhh!!!!!!



What's that GPU cooler called please, and when can I buy one?

Rephrasing...

A full cover block with MCW30 (or better? ) performance?

When and where? (In other words, why there's not one already in the post for me? )

[ColonelCain]

Rephrasing...

A full cover block with MCW30 (or better? ) performance?

I really hope that you guys somehow used something like an MCW30 for the core, then had it go to the ram. That would yield some sick performance.

[eXceeded]

Aaarghhhhh!!!!!!



What's that GPU cooler called please, and when can I buy one?

I'm definitely getting the MCW30's now, I have held out far too long. I just need that gpu cooler for R600 please

[dinos22]

Nice VGA block Gabe

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

the idea of full cover with much better execution !! instead of wasting precious flow to cool the ram (low heat anyway) it is just a big heatsink with the water focused on the GPU itself.... BRILLIANT !!!

[dinos22]

they are starting to resemble D-tek look a little (hides under rock )