ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[X7007]

i am waiting or a P5WDH + QX6700 + G.Skill HZ to arrive in few days

which bois is the best for me knowing that the system will run @ stock speeds with the ram @ DDR2-800 ?

you can use 1901, newest and the most stable, but you will need to update, just dont forget to clear the battery and jumper.

Maybe the beta bios was good and only was need is a cmos clearing, but i wont touch the beta ever again.

[StimulatedBoy]

i am waiting or a P5WDH + QX6700 + G.Skill HZ to arrive in few days

which bois is the best for me knowing that the system will run @ stock speeds with the ram @ DDR2-800 ?

Owning the same piece of equipment, my personal view is that BIOS 15.06 or 16.01 is the best. They are both stable and multiplier is open if you at a later stage decides to do some OC. There is nothing to gain installing a BIOS later than 16.01, at least not in my opinion, as these do not offer anything new, on the contrary. If you decide to go beyond 16.01, you might as well install 20.04.

Good luck to you.

[sesdave]

you can use 1901, newest and the most stable, but you will need to update, just dont forget to clear the battery and jumper.

Maybe the beta bios was good and only was need is a cmos clearing, but i wont touch the beta ever again.

personally I would recommend 1707 - its hard to find any bad post about it and subsequenet BIOS dont seem to have any significant changes. Still horses for courses - what works best for me may not be best for you!.
I am suprised you managed to reflash to lower BIOS without renaming BIOS to P5WDH.ROM. You just cant trust anything these days! On another note - you could try unistalling both the DVD drives in the Device Manager then once both are removed scan for new Hardware. It should redect the drives. Might solve your pronlem - might not but worth a try. It not a physical problem so it has to be windows.

[Neo07]

Hey folks. I've flashed my BIOS with 1901 however I have trouble cold booting into Windows XP Pro. The computer loads into Windows fine after a warm boot but It always fails on a cold boot. I have recently purchased a new SATA II Seagate harddrive which I run Windows from but I doubt it is the problem and also the S.M.A.R.T status for this drive doesn't state anything out of the ordinary. I've seen a thread about this on the Asus forums (clicky) but there doesn't seem to be a solution. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[sesdave]

This thread is for P5W DH problems and issues. You look like you have a P5B.
If you do have a P5W has the problem only hjappened since you went to 1901. If so try going to latest beta 2004 or go back to your previous BIOS.

[X7007]

personally I would recommend 1707 - its hard to find any bad post about it and subsequenet BIOS dont seem to have any significant changes. Still horses for courses - what works best for me may not be best for you!.
I am suprised you managed to reflash to lower BIOS without renaming BIOS to P5WDH.ROM. You just cant trust anything these days! On another note - you could try unistalling both the DVD drives in the Device Manager then once both are removed scan for new Hardware. It should redect the drives. Might solve your pronlem - might not but worth a try. It not a physical problem so it has to be windows.

i did try that, unistalling them, it happens in XP and vista.

i have no idea what is the direct link to this problem, i am so lost.. my all 2 days have became a nightmare.

[sesdave]

Check the IDE settings in the bios are okay - check IDE in hardware device in windows to see if its still set to UDMA - people have had problems with it reverting to PIO. The JMICRON seems problematic so I dont use it. If you still have problems try stripping down to a single DVD and your boot drive and start from there.

[bichi]

Test done for those reporting CD/DVD/DVD DL burn issues (BIOS 2004?)
- works fine for CD/DVD/DVD DL with Liteon LH-18A1P and LH-20A1H
- Nero CD/DVD v4.7.5.0 showing DL "Create" and "Bench" results
- CPUZID v1.39 showing P5WDH details
- link to detailed DL test results: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...&postcount=319
- have heard rumors about PIO 112 latest FW and latest Nero having issues.....

INTEL IDE/SATA drivers installed:

Intel iata621_enu-6.2.1.1002
- 82801G Ultra ATA Storage Controller 8.2.0.1008
- 82801GR/GH SATA AHIC Conroller 6.2.1.1002
- Primary and Secondary driver; Microsoft 5.1.2600.2180
- both IDE channels in Ultra DMA 4 mode

[Timmaah]

I personally think the 2004 is a good bios... haven't been able to overclock this high with any of the other bioses.

[lawrywild]

bichi, did you actually burn a disc? or run the test?

What I realised was my discs have been failing when burning large files (6-8GB) and the ones which were successful a few days ago were lots of smaller files no larger than 1GB..

[GFORCE100]

bichi,

Allow me to ask, why are you running 10x300 instead of 9x333 to achieve 3GHz? Just disable EIST and you'll be able to run 9x333 just fine and if you do so and test in Everest, you'll see it helps your memory bandwidth and photoworxx benchmark considerably. At 333 run your memory at 266 for an effective 1066.

I'm at 3GHz too, would love to make it stick at 3.33GHz but I need to find a way to keep the heat down, maybe some magic cooler will come out soon

[sesdave]

what do you call heat? I idle at 48c load 59c with the arctic 7 cooler. I have lapped the CPu but didnt make much difference. I have never fancied water so I too am waiting for the magic cooler - maybe one from Cebit 2007. There were some very interesting HSFs from Akasa - closed loop liquid and OCZ -suck blow prototype on show there plus others from the major players. There may be hope!

[GFORCE100]

what do you call heat? I idle at 48c load 59c with the arctic 7 cooler. I have lapped the CPu but didnt make much difference. I have never fancied water so I too am waiting for the magic cooler - maybe one from Cebit 2007. There were some very interesting HSFs from Akasa - closed loop liquid and OCZ -suck blow prototype on show there plus others from the major players. There may be hope!

Right but I'm using a QX6700 which is double the heat production of a E6700. I'm using an Titan Amanda TEC cooler for the time being and have applied the vdroop pencil mod which allows me to run at 3GHz (9x333) at only 1.25V. This keeps my load temp (4x Prime95) at 54C and idle temps as low as 25C.

Since Asus hasn't fixed the cpu multiplier bug forcing even extreme cpu owners to use only 6-10 multipliers, I can't run it at 3.2GHz at 1066FSB hence have settled for the time being at 9x333.

All this in a coolermaster wavemaster case which aren't the best for air circulation. I have however used a Scythe 120mm fan bracket to install a 120mm suction fan on the front and a plastic tunnel to divert air over the cpu area.

[sesdave]

Nice! That must sort out the heat off the TEC which is the main reason I never went down that route. I still have my old Antec Sonata MK1 - not a lot of room but it does the job okay with a 120 fan input and output.

[lawrywild]

what do you call heat? I idle at 48c load 59c with the arctic 7 cooler. I have lapped the CPu but didnt make much difference. I have never fancied water so I too am waiting for the magic cooler - maybe one from Cebit 2007. There were some very interesting HSFs from Akasa - closed loop liquid and OCZ -suck blow prototype on show there plus others from the major players. There may be hope!

Coretemp temps? I load at those temps with stock volts and a bloody Noctua for 1.5v your temps are dam good for such a cheap cpu cooler

[sesdave]

Yes these are Coretemp and TAM temps. They do vary with the weather as my office is in a loft room. I thought mine were a bit high seeing all the other posts. You must have one hot CPU and it doesnt clock well - ever though of ebaying it and getting another. Overclockers have a this week only offer of £153. If not try lapping it - results vary depending on whether the IHS is concave, convex or just already flat which I think mine was close as damn it!. The Arctic is better than a lot of people think - I used its brother the 64 pro when I was o/c opterons and that was very good. I am trying out some other paste to see if it reduces temps - Thermalright Chill factor and Akasa 5022 as they both got write up saying the could drop AS5 temps. I have given up with the 5022 as it speads like glue based dough!Onto the Chill factorsoon as I can be bothered!.

[bichi]

lawrywild,

"...bichi, did you actually burn a disc? or run the test?
What I realised was my discs have been failing when burning large files (6-8GB) and the ones which were successful a few days ago were lots of smaller files no larger than 1GB..."

Nero CD/DVD Speed test suite burns a disk when starting with "Create disk."
"Create Disk"
- gives details about media MID, write speed selected by drive/FW, buffer, burn strategy, write time and CPU usage
- writes data to disk's full capacity (full 8gB, in this case, for DL)
- shows progress, physically, across disk and will show write problems if recalibration occurs (usually bad media)

"Disc Quality" (comparison shown below)
- loads of details about burn quality, ie., PIE/PIF errors and where they occur physically, jitter, etc.

"BenchMark"
- shows details of read-back, ie., read speed/time, read strategy, layer-break issues, and burst rate (good indicator of IDE channel problems)

Have been using this tool for past 4 years, along with other DVD geeks to compare burners, media and firmware with a common reference
There's MUCH more about this tool which comes with using it. Documentation is sparce, much like ASUS firmware details....
Maybe install the tool, do some test burns and post at CD Freaks?
Link to NERO CD/DVD Speed: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/
Link to CD Freaks: http://club.cdfreaks.com/ (Optical Drives Forum is most interesting. Register and you can see posted results)

First is the "Quality" scan of the DL test done in previous post

Second is a "Quality" scan of a Verbatim MCC004 SL +R x16, written at x18 speed, showing dye failure at edge of disk
- demonstrates amount of information needed to determine problem on a "marginal" burn

[sniggle]

bichi, what's that app you're using to add those screenshot buttons to the titlebar of any application?

[bichi]

GFORCE100,

"...Allow me to ask, why are you running 10x300 instead of 9x333 to achieve 3GHz? Just disable EIST and you'll be able to run 9x333 just fine and if you do so and test in Everest, you'll see it helps your memory bandwidth and photoworxx benchmark considerably. At 333 run your memory at 266 for an effective 1066..."

Have been pondering making change to x9 multi, but have work related stuff stacked up. I did try x9 multi months ago, about the time Vegas 7.0 and MatLab R2007beta were released. Quick tests showed "i frame" sync slippage and MatLab verification error probabilities were suspect. Reverted back to x10 multi, 300FSB. Will have to give it another try, especially with new Vegas 7.0d release and purchase of new OCZ DDR2-8800 (cheap, nowadays) Will have to rethink EIST power usage vs., performance increase... (machine can sit idle for hours and would prefer to save on energy/greenhouse load)

[bichi]

sniggle

"...bichi, what's that app you're using to add those screenshot buttons to the titlebar of any application?..."

eh? Screen shot buttons and titlebar?
- if its what I think you want, I set focus on target panel and do "Alt-PrintScreen," which clips only the target panel
- target panel clip can now be pasted into your graphics app (I used lightweight, Adobe Photoshop Elements)

[sesdave]

GFORCE100,

"...Allow me to ask, why are you running 10x300 instead of 9x333 to achieve 3GHz? Just disable EIST and you'll be able to run 9x333 just fine and if you do so and test in Everest, you'll see it helps your memory bandwidth and photoworxx benchmark considerably. At 333 run your memory at 266 for an effective 1066..."

Have been pondering making change to x9 multi, but have work related stuff stacked up. I did try x9 multi months ago, about the time Vegas 7.0 was released. Quick tests showed "i frame" sync slippage and reverted back to x10 multi, 300FSB. Will have to give it another try, especially with new Vegas 7.0d release and purchase of new OCZ DDR2-8800 (cheap, nowadays) Will have to rethink EIST power usage vs., performance increase... (machine can sit idle for hours and would prefer to save on energy/greenhouse load)

Not being cheeky- but you can always switch the machine off when you arent using it and get the best of both worlds!

[sniggle]

eh? Screen shot buttons and titlebar?
- if its what I think you want, I set focus on target panel and do "Alt-PrintScreen," which clips only the target panel
- target panel clip can now be pasted into your graphics app (I used lightweight, Adobe Photoshop Elements)

In the screenshots of your Nero CD-DVD program, there are disk and clipboard buttons next to the 3 standard titlebar buttons. I figured those did quick screenshot saving or copying to clipboard without going through the process you just mentioned. Perhaps those are specific to that application and only save the relevant analysis data.

[bichi]

In the screenshots of your Nero CD-DVD program, there are disk and clipboard buttons next to the 3 standard titlebar buttons. I figured those did quick screenshot saving or copying to clipboard without going through the process you just mentioned. Perhaps those are specific to that application and only save the relevant analysis data.

Ahhh, right! - part of the Nero app and is exactly what they do....

[bichi]

Not being cheeky- but you can always switch the machine off when you arent using it and get the best of both worlds!

yep - yer being "cheeky!" - LOL!
- its when a Matlab analysis or Vegas transcode is run and I'm off chasing old ladies at the patent library and not at the machine at completion time.....

[sesdave]

Fair dos - I can understand that. I just use mine for fun.!