Help finalise my $8000 WC build !

[phcjpp]

Hi Guys,

Well after weeks and weeks of reading these forums I think I am finally about ready to buy in the bits (the Mountain Mods Horizon case is already ordered a few weeks ago but as its a custom paint job it may take a while).

Essentially is a dual loop design with a offshoot loop for the ram. I am a little unsure on the correct pump choice so please jump in. I will of course start a build thread as soon as the case gets to the UK.

I hope this image shows up ok. If it needs resizing let me know.



Thanks
Chris

[ANP !!!]

The pic took some time to show up

but OMFG, this is one Ultra extreme PC u planning

I dont think u need any further help finalising the build, since everything u listed here is top quality n top notched. so i think there isnt any room for improvement.

[IanY]

Are you sure you want an Enermax Galaxy over a PC Power and Cooling 1kW-SR? I personally believe that a PCP&C is a better PSU.

How long of a wait are you expecting from Mountain Mods ? Perhaps yours is just paint, because they've sent a couple of us e-mails saying that our custom cases are on hold. The wait period is obnoxious.

[phcjpp]

Ian - I'm not sure you can get PC P&C in the UK ? And if I import you have the 240v vs 110v issues although it may simply be a switch on the back.

Do people generally go with the DCC-1 or DCC-2 pumps these days. I saw a post comparing the 2 and it seemed to suggest the 2 variety. Then again you have the question of what top to use too.

Ta
Chris

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Vista 32 bit? Mate you might as well just get the 64 bit edition. Drivers aren't a problem anymore! Other than that I can't see anything that stands out as needing to be changed. Although I think you will definitely need some more tubing!

[Starscream]

Vista 32 bit? Mate you might as well just get the 64 bit edition. Drivers aren't a problem anymore! Other than that I can't see anything that stands out as needing to be changed. Although I think you will definitely need some more tubing!

dunno for shure but i believe that with Ultimate u get both 32 and 64 bit.

seeing ul make 2 loops i agree u should add some more tubing just incase.

[phcjpp]

More tubing it is ...... go on someone comment on the pump choice! Oh and on 64 bit - I read it only really helps for security and on the downside it means you cannot run some legacy apps as they rely on the 32bit subsystem or something like that. Will try and dig up the link.

Chris

[Okda]

can i suggest waiting for 10 more days so you can catch the intel's price cut which then you can get a quad core for less than the cost fo 6700

or atleast buy the 6700 for much less

[IanY]

Ian - I'm not sure you can get PC P&C in the UK ? And if I import you have the 240v vs 110v issues although it may simply be a switch on the back.

Do people generally go with the DCC-1 or DCC-2 pumps these days. I saw a post comparing the 2 and it seemed to suggest the 2 variety. Then again you have the question of what top to use too.

Ta
Chris

Send an e-mail to intlsales@pcpower.com

They manufacture the highest quality power supplies. They should be auto switching, and the 240v issue should be moot.

How long of a wait do you have with Mountain Mods ? Its becoming an issue with all of us who want custom cases, although from what I understand, you want just custom paint.

[Shift]

The Enermax isn't a bad choice and will handle your system fine. The owner of this site uses that PSU.

[phcjpp]

Thanks for the replies guys.

The largest cost of that power supply will be the postage as I imagine its not light! Will give thema shout though.


As for mountain mods - placed the order (and paid) 3-4 weeks ago. They said it should take around 6 weeks at their end to get done - most of the time is ordering the paint in apparently.

And now you have told me I will certainly wait although I wonder how quickly price cuts feed into the retail channel. I was gonna start buying some of the wc bits now - especially the ones from the states but can easily hold off on the rest as its mostly UK suppliers.

I would love to hold out for the next gen graphics but I just can't be bothered. As you can see though I am going with evga so I can step up!

Chris

[NaeKuh]

how many loops is this?

Im assuming its a dual loop system due to the 2 radiators, and indpendant second pump?

if your plumbing this for a single loop dual pump system, it wont work.

Your mixing pumps, i believe, the koolance uses DDC-1 while the petra pump is a DDC-2

You might break your DDC-2. Ive seen cases of this happening.


If its a multi loop system, then ummmm, looks like it will be a monster.

But i ask why koolance???

[XS Janus]

get yourself a second 500gb hdd drive and use it just for backup. going one data drive is stupid even for a cheap build, let alone this baby!

[JeffnWV]

Why do I have a problem with a PC that costs more than my Durango?

Pick up a Sky Jacker lift kit for it..or a remote starter kit..

[phcjpp]

Sorry that Koolance should be deleted - it was there initially for the ram only but the F connecters from petras sort that. Its a sual loop system, 1 pump per loop.

As for back - can add an extra data drive but have 2 raid systems already upstairs which backup all the other pcs.

Chris

[echn111]

Enermax Galaxy was the top rated PSU in Custom PC. Their PSU reviews seem fairly decent. Regardless, it's a decent PSU.

As for your pump, make sure you pick the 18w DDC pump. Naming conventions seem to vary, but you can have a DDC-1 10w pump with Petra top. You want the more powerful 18w one, sometimes called DDC-2 or the ultra or mcp355 etc (I've lost track of the different names)

[phcjpp]

Yeh I saw that custom pc review too - thats why a chose it. I will make sure I order the 18w ones.

Ta
Chris

[Bigchrome]

Yeh I saw that custom pc review too - thats why a chose it. I will make sure I order the 18w ones.

Ta
Chris

The custom pc reviews are a joke! Did anyone notice that the scores have pretty much no relation to how good the psu was (ie. the psu has 3 rails that failed under load and still scores 90 odd % for stability) Also, no offence to Enermax but at the start it says that they are testing using enermax's facility and then on the last page all 3 of their psus are reccommended

I would foget the WD caviar aswell and go with a seagate 500gig. Get a better board than the striker, don't get 4gbs of ram and get XP 32bit.

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I would foget the WD caviar aswell and go with a seagate 500gig. Get a better board than the striker, don't get 4gbs of ram and get XP 32bit.

HAHA you made me laugh!
"Don't get lots of RAM and don't get a newer/more stable and faster OS"
Although I agree with the Seagate 500gig

[phcjpp]

Hi,

Always had seagates is the past - was just matching the brand to the other 2 raptors. As for OS and ram. I have loads of coipies of xp around - was gonna start with it anyway as no gtx drivers as far as I know (no stable ones that is).

As for the ram - why 2gb rather than 4gb ?

Finally the board - didn;t think there was a better board for quad cpu out there? Is there one ?

Ta

Chris

[diekaste]

Look into Iwaki pumps. They are fully rebuildable and you can get several different types of impeller to suit your application, High flow or High head. They run off AC. Take a look at an MD-20RZ. http://www.iwakipumps.jp/e_products/...D_E0015_11.pdf

[SiGfever]

Nice build you have going.

Have you considered an Iwaki "RD" series pump? They are bullet proof and will be there when the cows come home. The jury IMO is still out on the DDC series pumps.

[phcjpp]

Just trying to find some info and suppliers on the Iwaki "RD" right now. They are AC right so I would need a PCI card or something to turn them on off ? Or a relay triggered by the PSU ?

Ta
C

[SiGfever]

Just trying to find some info and suppliers on the Iwaki "RD" right now. They are AC right so I would need a PCI card or something to turn them on off ? Or a relay triggered by the PSU ?

Ta
C

Petra's Tech Shop is looking into carrying them. They are 24vdc so a power converter is needed such as a Meanwell power supply. Petra is talking about getting some lower cost 12vdc > 18vdc converters for this purpose.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=139489

[phcjpp]

Thanks for the link - at least the MM horizon has 2 PSU areas - would need one for the PSU's for these guys I guess.

Chris