Feedback needed from everyone here PLEASE!

[SiGfever]

Im in the "SERVICES" section

Same situation.

[madmat]

Newls, I hate to tell you this but the link to your new thread keeps bringing me up to a not authorized message. I'm afraid your link is borked or from some point in time where you were modifying the post.

[newls1]

What link guys? Oh, and whats up madmat!

[newls1]

I cant understand why? Can you all go into the SERVICES section at all?

[newls1]

try this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=139984

[shadow of chaos]

you say the best stuff is in this wc box, but i always hear thermochill rads and a DDC pump are best i have no idea how that stuff performs..

[ziddey]

I think the main problem is that when you have say a custom made phase box, it takes a lot more work and expertise including a lot more labor internally. With this, you're just using a much of swiftech parts, and most people will see that it's the same as what they could do themselves.

Shadow, thermochill's are the best, but more expensive by a wide margin. DDC with a top is really good, but the D5 is pretty much just as good, and uses 1/2" barbs natively.


Like I mentioned in another thread, perhaps a better idea would have been to go with a stronger ac pump. I'm not sure of many since I haven't done much research, but I believe eheim has some. It'd help for the longer distance of tubing.

While tchill is good, it's about twice the price. Perhaps, going with two mcr320's or two mcr220's and using wye's to split the flow to reduce drop. Using two 220's should be about the performance of pa120.3 iirc, and using 2 220's can possible make it shorter

[Mekrel]

you say the best stuff is in this wc box, but i always hear thermochill rads and a DDC pump are best i have no idea how that stuff performs..

Thermochill rads would have bumped the price up due to the OP residing in the US and the D5, well not as good but not far off and probably a higher level of reliability than a DDC.

[ziddey]

There are also 120mm fans that run off 120/240v ac power if I'm not mistaken. Maybe if you got two mcr220s set up to form a 240, you could use a 240mm ac fan if there are any with a shroud. It's a shame I didn't think more sooner, since it's already went through production and can't really be changed now

I think your best audience might be to do a website or see if you can get some etailers like petras to carry your product. those from these enthusiast websites would probably most usually want to do their own kind of rig

edit: this is something that might catch your eye http://xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=136885

[shadow of chaos]

The temp drop would be worth it tho on a thermochill rad right? id much rather have one of those in there..

How much of a difference is there between that pump and a DDC? performance/temp wise.

[serialk11r]

The temp drop would be worth it tho on a thermochill rad right? id much rather have one of those in there..

How much of a difference is there between that pump and a DDC? performance/temp wise.

You can't predict the temps, but it has higher max pressure, so you can expect slightly higher flow.

[shadow of chaos]

well guess ill wait until we get some performance tests done, like to see some tests done on a C2D dual and quad core, highly clocked and see the temps etc before i can decide.. want to compare the temps to other setups first.

[Mekrel]

Depends what you have on the loop, if it's processor only I doubt you will see much difference in temperatures.

Also, it's a good price considering the conversion from dollars to pounds. Would depend on shipping price and customs.

[shadow of chaos]

Depends what you have on the loop, if it's processor only I doubt you will see much difference in temperatures.

Also, it's a good price considering the conversion from dollars to pounds. Would depend on shipping price and customs.

it depends how it gets sent, ive had stuff before and people have deliberately put something different on the label of the parcel to avoid the import tax..

Btw ideally ill be having just the GPU and CPU in a single loop, its gonna be a R600 perhaps. So it might not be great for ocing the cpu with that gpu in the loop, since it will cause alot of heat.

[madmat]

Still a big negatory. This is what I got.

madmat, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:

1. Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system?
2. If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation.

Apparently you need 100 posts to access the classifieds section and as this is like my third post since I joined in '04 I should have 100 posts up about... say 2107.

[lowfat]

I just saw the pics in the for sale thread. Looks great but just a few suggestions which would make it look much better in my opinion.
1. Sleeve the cables inside, i think it really takes away the clean look.
2.I believe having the fan on the outside of the radiator instead of the inside would make it a little more presentable also.

[Mekrel]

it depends how it gets sent, ive had stuff before and people have deliberately put something different on the label of the parcel to avoid the import tax..

Btw ideally ill be having just the GPU and CPU in a single loop, its gonna be a R600 perhaps. So it might not be great for ocing the cpu with that gpu in the loop, since it will cause alot of heat.

Nah it will be fine if it isn't a quad.

I have a RD600 (Hot NB) a X1900XT and a E6600 on a PA120.2 and even with 1.55v through CPU I didn't even reach 50 degrees under orthos.

[septim]

IanY, i agree with the diff hole spacing for the PA, maybe newls1 can pre-drill said holes, or just wait for the order, cause it is a per order custom job.

*BTW his link to the services page works fine.
*a comment on the expanded wire/screen on top: more dust to get inside box...

[shadow of chaos]

Depends what you have on the loop, if it's processor only I doubt you will see much difference in temperatures.

Also, it's a good price considering the conversion from dollars to pounds. Would depend on shipping price and customs.

Nah it will be fine if it isn't a quad.

I have a RD600 (Hot NB) a X1900XT and a E6600 on a PA120.2 and even with 1.55v through CPU I didn't even reach 50 degrees under orthos.

Guess im screwed then, i was planning my next setup to be a quad.

[rbd89]

why cant i get into the classifieds???

i have 100+ posts but i cant get in!! ugh

I think you also have to be a member for a certain amount of time, that may be the issue.

[ziddey]

haha he's long time member

[shadow of chaos]

dang if only it were suited to a higher load

me wants R600 & a quad connected with high ocs

[serialk11r]

i am not though. darn. must be two months or something.

anyone know the requirements? mods?

No, there's no time requirement...
Ask an admin what's going on...
I got access to the FS section in 1 week But that's me

[Mekrel]

dang if only it were suited to a higher load

me wants R600 & a quad connected with high ocs

Then wait, I really don't see why you would want to buy a quad unless you want to run synthetic benchmarks with 4 threads all day.

It's not a question of what apps use quad core, it's a question of is the price of a quad worth it when in reality not a lot of apps use more than one! Which is true when you think about the software out there. Yeah the O/S will help about with SMP when a lot is going on.

These chips just put out too much heat due to the fact there are two dies, plus motherboard support for overclocking is limited as only 965 and eVGA 680i only really clock well (and RD600 if you get the thing to play ball).

[shadow of chaos]

Then wait, I really don't see why you would want to buy a quad unless you want to run synthetic benchmarks with 4 threads all day.

It's not a question of what apps use quad core, it's a question of is the price of a quad worth it when in reality not a lot of apps use more than one! Which is true when you think about the software out there. Yeah the O/S will help about with SMP when a lot is going on.

These chips just put out too much heat due to the fact there are two dies, plus motherboard support for overclocking is limited as only 965 and eVGA 680i only really clock well (and RD600 if you get the thing to play ball).

I might get a C2D dual core at first, depends.. but price drops are coming soon which will cut the price of the quads in half and make them much more appealing.

The fact you say that this wont be able to handle a r600 & quad though puts me off it.. not too good for future cpu's