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Thread: Thermochill PA140.X (For use with 140mm Fans) Voice Your Opinion!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdkevin View Post
    Cathar: is PA140 based on PA120 Series designs w/ few additional row? any changes make to the fins density?
    I wouldn't be disclosing any design details until such a thing hit the market. That's in the hands of Thermochill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whokidmo View Post
    if i can get a stacker case and fit this in it plus 2 or 3 cd drives, damn need to find a space for my 4 hard drives plus a 120mm fan maybe the back? we'll see but yeah i'm down for the 140.3 if u can make a universal mounting kit for stacker cases so we don't have to modify i'll be extra happy this would be nice too cause i was gonna go phase change cooling for cpu and WC the mobo and gfx and i was scared a pa120.3 wouldn't be able to handle it
    one 140mm fan will be larger than three 5.25" bays, if you want to fit it in front of Stacker then you got nothing left for CD-Drive

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    Since I had to mod my case to fit in a PA120.3 rad I wouldn't be put off by having to mod again to fit a 'PA140.3' (I'd find a way to make it fit ).

    Aren't we taking a liberty by talking about a 'PA140.3' anyway? (I think the PA140 was only mentioned in regard to replacing the PA160).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cathar View Post
    Given the same 120mm fan, by around 25% with very weak fans (25cfm), and by around 15% with strong fans (100cfm). That's just the prototype though.
    That's very good to hear! Good luck!
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    if a 120 shroud had the same space between the fans holes as the current 120.x series that would solve all the fitment issues with precut holes, no?(depth might be an issue)

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    Quote Originally Posted by buffbiff21 View Post
    but maxxx - the holes where you place the screws - their spacing would be different, would it not? The actual hole is not the problem for me; the alignment of the screw holes and the fans on the rad i think would be.

    If you were using 140mm fans it would be wider and the rad would be longer. thus you could just use a fan gril like those sold by thermochil on top of the case and then cut a larger rectangular hole for the radiator. Thats how I have my current radiator setup.

    btw, the way you ahve your rad setup is EXACTLY like what I did for a member here.

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    I'm still waiting for Marci to respond. He goes and lets the cat out of the bag...
    I'm just sitting back and watching the general response for now... we're still working flat out just to meet demand for PA120.2, 120.3 and 160 format rads... need to drum up some in-house support for the 140 footprint to take it any further. Now would be the time to mail me with any tweaks since the original design tho fella...

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    I would certainly purchase PA's in 140 format.
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    So Marci would do a PA140.1,2,3, and would you even like to think about 4?

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    As I just said...

    I'm just sitting back and watching the general response for now... we're still working flat out just to meet demand for PA120.2, 120.3 and 160 format rads... need to drum up some in-house support for the 140 footprint to take it any further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marci View Post
    As I just said...
    Well there is growing support here :-P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whokidmo View Post
    if i can get a stacker case and fit this in it plus 2 or 3 cd drives, damn need to find a space for my 4 hard drives plus a 120mm fan maybe the back? we'll see but yeah i'm down for the 140.3 if u can make a universal mounting kit for stacker cases so we don't have to modify i'll be extra happy this would be nice too cause i was gonna go phase change cooling for cpu and WC the mobo and gfx and i was scared a pa120.3 wouldn't be able to handle it
    What stacker do you have?

    if you are thinking what I have already done I can show you with my case.

    As if the 140.2-3 goes from drawing board to manufacturer then I could just disconnect my 120.3, and connect the 140.X and all would be good, maybe just a little modding to the base of my case.
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    We do a production run of 500 (won't break even on prototyping etc til first 1000 have sold), and we have 60 folks who say they'll buy them... do the maths. 60 people isn't "a lot"... it's a handful. And this is from the "best attended" forum for watercooling worldwide...

    Still observing from a distance here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marci View Post
    We do a production run of 500 (won't break even on prototyping etc til first 1000 have sold), and we have 60 folks who say they'll buy them... do the maths. 60 people isn't "a lot"... it's a handful. And this is from the "best attended" forum for watercooling worldwide...

    Still observing from a distance here...

    I was just saying the fan base is growing.

    I already bought two 120.3s :-P

    give it time for word to spread, time is your friend
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbartlett323 View Post
    So please return to the "Darkside of the Moon" and check your "Pulse" while you wait for the "Animals" that will be "Obscured By Clouds". And watch me wave as I say "Wish You Were Here" in "A Momentary Lapse of Reason"

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    If I hadn't just ordered a 160 and two 120.2s I might have bought one (or more) of these - but if they are ever made it will be a while, so that's pretty academic.

    Still, I'm probably (almost) the only person who wanted a radiator that sized in about 220 x 220 of active surface area, requiring maybe 240 x 320 to mount, and with a shroud for 2 x 120 fan - strange - couldn't find one...

    A single 160 was too small, ended up with 2x 120.2 and a bit dubious that I can actually fit both of them where I want them. If pressed can always stick them outside the case.

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    a pa140.3 or pa140.4 would be just the ticket for external mounting especially on the big cases.

    i'd like to get my idle -> load temps down a bit more so I could probably be put down for a 140.3 or a 140.4

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    I would be most interested in a PA140.1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marci View Post
    We do a production run of 500 (won't break even on prototyping etc til first 1000 have sold), and we have 60 folks who say they'll buy them... do the maths. 60 people isn't "a lot"... it's a handful. And this is from the "best attended" forum for watercooling worldwide...

    Still observing from a distance here...
    It's hard to say I'd buy it or not since we didn't see the actual rads and performance data yet so a lot of us still observing and waiting for more details on PA140, once it had been done and proven its performance and I'm sure lots of us will consider to get one to replace PA120 Series. I'd get PA140.3 over Quad-120mm Fan Rads due to compatible for internal mounting!

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    Even though a PA140.X is tempting, i don't think that today's cooling demands and space limitations can't be covered by current PA's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marci View Post
    We do a production run of 500 (won't break even on prototyping etc til first 1000 have sold), and we have 60 folks who say they'll buy them... do the maths. 60 people isn't "a lot"... it's a handful. And this is from the "best attended" forum for watercooling worldwide...

    Still observing from a distance here...
    I would'nt wait too long. around Q3 things should be heating up with falling quadcore prices. http://www.guru3d.com/newsitem.php?id=5086

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    We would have to look at upcoming GPUs as they are racking up the heat these days. The R600 is rated at 240-270w power consumption stock according to the things I have read. Imagine overclocking.

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    i rember when 2 80mm case fans on a p1 was overkill even overclocked to 233mhz
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    A 140.3 would work nicely as a monster intake system in the front of a stacker...

    Would I buy one? Probably
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    I think the key is fan support. If you can somehow create shrouds that can accommodate both 120 and 140mm fans and please wassup with the foam gaskets, it will gain more acceptance. I mount my PA120.3 and I think its better that way. Fresher cooler air.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeBar View Post
    Even though a PA140.X is tempting, i don't think that today's cooling demands and space limitations can't be covered by current PA's.
    Sure thing, but I'd say on many cases you could fit a PA 140 where a PA 120 fits. So it'd give you just a little extra performance or just some even quieter fans (due to even lower speed), so in the end it'd be a good solution I think.
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    Hmm...does this mean a flood of cheap pa120.x in the for sale section when this comes out Thank goodness for the xtreme addicts on this forum
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