RD600 first look and general questions

[kimandsally]

Too funny man...I swear to you I went to the beta section...web site won't load up right now so I can't prove I'm not senile and blind...I thought the date was a little stale

On the not too funny part...You, my friend, and DFI do not mix. I still have my NF3 250gb and have had an RDX200 (still have technically, I sold to my company and it's still kicking folding 24/7 for over 9 months), NF3 Ultra D (pain in the ass but worked ), NF4 ultra D, Expert and the RD600. All have worked out of the box without issue. Technically I still own the the NF4 Ultra D until this weekend and posting from it right now. Awesome board...I also have an Infinty NF2 and my trusty Infinity 975X/G...

So you could say DFI has had an excellent track record with me thus far...For you, I would never again even try one and could hardly blame you.

EDIT: Okay...I feel better. They have 12/8/06 in the beta section and it IS a beta. Shipping bios is 12/18/06...

I have to agree old man, this is my 5th DFI, had a SLI D, SLI DR, Expert, CX3200 and now this RD 600, never had a problem other than the ones that are a learning problem, everytime there was something wrong it was something that could be fixed using BIOS options, don't want to sound nasty but these are for either people who know what they are doing or people like me who like to tinker and learn whilst having fun.

Sorry to say but DFI get blamed when a lot of the time it's user error, I bought the DFI Expert simply because there was supposed to be loads of problems and I like a challenge, how dissapointed I was when it worked right out of the box without a single issue.

[nealh]

I have to agree old man, this is my 5th DFI, had a SLI D, SLI DR, Expert, CX3200 and now this RD 600, never had a problem other than the ones that are a learning problem, everytime there was something wrong it was something that could be fixed using BIOS options, don't want to sound nasty but these are for either people who know what they are doing or people like me who like to tinker and learn whilst having fun.

Sorry to say but DFI get blamed when a lot of the time it's user error, I bought the DFI Expert simply because there was supposed to be loads of problems and I like a challenge, how dissapointed I was when it worked right out of the box without a single issue.

Hmmm...I kinda resent you comments, you suggest most issues on this board are by less than smart users..I disagree(most here at least have some skills on tinkering and if not ask and get others experience)

Lets see I set my board to 380 1:1 sync mode, loosened timings that were known to work at 400mhz and good ram voltage...reboot twice and the board is gone....C1...no bringing it back and I tried everything people recommended, including my new cheapo 1.8v ddr2

Sorry, something wrong that the bios isnot/was not clearable ...somehow it corrupted with a change to sync mode...I never ran more than 1.42v on my chipset and had a 120 mm fan blowing on it load temps never exceeded 52/53C

How is my tinkering a bad user.....no sorry quality is sure questionable on this board marketed for people to tinker with and use the various options...no way it should not have been able to reset itself.....

[kimandsally]

Hmmm...I kinda resent you comments, you suggest most issues on this board are by less than smart users..I disagree(most here at least have some skills on tinkering and if not ask and get others experience)

Lets see I set my board to 380 1:1 sync mode, loosened timings that were known to work at 400mhz and good ram voltage...reboot twice and the board is gone....C1...no bringing it back and I tried everything people recommended, including my new cheapo 1.8v ddr2

Sorry, something wrong that the bios isnot/was not clearable ...somehow it corrupted with a change to sync mode...I never ran more than 1.42v on my chipset and had a 120 mm fan blowing on it load temps never exceeded 52/53C

How is my tinkering a bad user.....no sorry quality is sure questionable on this board marketed for people to tinker with and use the various options...no way it should not have been able to reset itself.....

Hi there my comments were not meant at any single user, just my opinion of how things have been for meand the amount of small issues at DFI street in the past, I just think it's par for the course to have difficulties with these boards, all the DFI's are more difficult to get right compared to other makes.

No offence is meant to ANY user it's jsut my opinion.

[AbelJemka]

Moreover Nealh sometimes is a no luck with hardware. It seems you are the only guy here with this problem so it's hard to blame something other that misfortune .

[Praxis1452]

Moreover Nealh sometimes is a no luck with hardware. It seems you are the only guy here with this problem so it's hard to blame something other that misfortune .

no same for me. jumped to ddr1000 with 2.6v on my fatbody and c1 error at 4-4-4-4-12 timings. I rma'ed it and then I get a board that will c1 with 1.8v ddr2 ram. it has never worked so I never even changed settings with it.

[nealh]

Moreover Nealh sometimes is a no luck with hardware. It seems you are the only guy here with this problem so it's hard to blame something other that misfortune .

Not sure I really understand what your saying...correct me if I am wrong...I have bad luck with hardware and its my fault/or bad luck

You are not looking very hard..look around numerous people are having trouble with C1 and other issues on the board...I thought i had lucked out on the board as it worked great till i tired a sync mode...I wish i had not

Board would never reset

kimandsally: sorry..I was not taking it as directed at me per se but...my comments were to point out many here at XS have had issue with the board..knowledgable users....

my point is the board has some faults(like many others) but the issue of a bios that will not reset after one attempt at sync mode..as me very leary that something is very fragile

[AbelJemka]

I never said it's your fault i say it's misfortune.
U said that [b]many[/] had problems with this board i say that many here have no problems with the board. Here at xs thre is loads of threads for many and personnally i had before an ASUS P5W DH and you can look at the size of this board thread. And in ur personal case u said "the board has some faults(like many others) but the issue of a bios that will not reset after one attempt at sync mode". U are the only one it seem with this problem so u can blame ur board not u and i think not DFI. U have enough knowledge to know that each piece of hardware is unique...

[kimandsally]

Hmmm...I kinda resent you comments, you suggest most issues on this board are by less than smart users..I disagree(most here at least have some skills on tinkering and if not ask and get others experience)

Lets see I set my board to 380 1:1 sync mode, loosened timings that were known to work at 400mhz and good ram voltage...reboot twice and the board is gone....C1...no bringing it back and I tried everything people recommended, including my new cheapo 1.8v ddr2

Sorry, something wrong that the bios isnot/was not clearable ...somehow it corrupted with a change to sync mode...I never ran more than 1.42v on my chipset and had a 120 mm fan blowing on it load temps never exceeded 52/53C

How is my tinkering a bad user.....no sorry quality is sure questionable on this board marketed for people to tinker with and use the various options...no way it should not have been able to reset itself.....

Hi Nealh

I've been reading from page 1, when I wrote the bit that upset you O hadn't reached this;

"I did not push any farther than I did earlier...(I tired 9x 390 1:1..without this)
this time was I went 380x 9..with auto strap, sync....crap

No more for tweaking until they get a better bios....."


Now I understand, me old smarty pants doing my bit when your board had died,

I'm REALLY sorry if I had read that far ahead my post wouldn't have appeared, foot into mouth comes to mind.

Hope you get sorted soon, I've pretty much read the whole thread now and you have been a major contributer which helps the like of me, then have the horrible luck, you certainly do not deserve it you seem a fine gentleman that tries to help others.

[nealh]

Hi Nealh

I've been reading from page 1, when I wrote the bit that upset you O hadn't reached this;

"I did not push any farther than I did earlier...(I tired 9x 390 1:1..without this)
this time was I went 380x 9..with auto strap, sync....crap

No more for tweaking until they get a better bios....."


Now I understand, me old smarty pants doing my bit when your board had died,

I'm REALLY sorry if I had read that far ahead my post wouldn't have appeared, foot into mouth comes to mind.

Hope you get sorted soon, I've pretty much read the whole thread now and you have been a major contributer which helps the like of me, then have the horrible luck, you certainly do not deserve it you seem a fine gentleman that tries to help others.

No sweat at all...I RMAed the mobo back to Newegg

I hoping to have the replacement ..middle of next week..2 weeks away from my main setup..Blah

I only hope I can get things back up and running at 3500 cpu:500 ram...I was 20hr blend stable..got all that testing to prove it is stable

I have seen several report the beta bios may have issues..one person flashed and could not get a post..several have had issues trying to get into the bios to change settings

I am disappointed to see no new official bios updates but I will say a warning was suggested there maybe little support for this mobo(I think more from ATI than DFI)

[Suicide King]

Btw guys, I know what my multiplier issue was... Oddly enough it was running windows Vista. But back on XP x64, multiplier acts like it should.

[BlueAqua]

Btw guys, I know what my multiplier issue was... Oddly enough it was running windows Vista. But back on XP x64, multiplier acts like it should.

Good deal, I was wondering what that was.

[Pete@X]

I´m just playing with some 3060´s here and while testing i did see my "old" nF4 DFIs on the shelf. Dunno why - but after one 3060 would not play over 3825MHz - i remembered the VCore Add % Option on the nF4s. This Option helped a lot during the "good old" nF4 times, "so what the heck" i thought and adapted the settings on one of my ICFX3200`s and ->

Findings:
"old":
3.80 100% stable with 1.5125V (Bios) - SG 1,42V - no %
3.85 No-Go with up to 1.6V (Bios) (reboot after ~ 2 mins)
3.90 No-Go (reboot after ~ 2 mins)

"new":
3.90 priming since ~ 30min with 1,5000 (Bios) + 5%
SG shows 1,47V under full load - Coretemp reports 74c - but no worry - it`s a very tiny h2o setup with a dual-radi.
If that works, i try to get the vcore down a bit and test again - looks like S775´s react kinda the same way the S939`s did in the past.

Dunno why - but so far i`m more than happy with that finding

Sometimes it´s good to look back and bring back some memories