RD600 first look and general questions

[nealh]

Pull Everything...Power Conns, Floppies, CDROMS, CARDS, CPU, RAM. Then Set Reset CMOS Jumper to pins 2 & 3 & Flip the Battery. Go make a coffee.
Put CMOS Jumper to Run again on 1 & 2, Fit CPU, 1 stick in slot 3, fit graphics card, attatch bare essential power connectors & give PSU Juice. Be sure the Yellow LED by the ATX Board header lights up. Do the EZ Start up procedure. After you've let go of the 5 second RESET hold, you Should get a Double Post, but only Monitor Sync after you hear the second post. If you're alive here, power off & install Stick 2 in slot 1 & just turn it on. If it's dead, turn it off, take out the working Slot 3 Dimm & put the one u just tried in slot one into Slot 3. Then power on. If this is ok, repeat with the last stick into slot 1 again. If it kills it, the board aint right cos u just prooved BOTH sticks work in either channel but not with both together. I had to do this with board #2 & it lasted 3 days @ stock voltages.
Needless to say, if you're still dead, it has to be either the board or it fried your ram whilst it was in Spec voltages. Personally from what I've seen here & your explanation of it all your end, your board has rolled over & died!
Get on to NE & get your ass back in here asap!

Good luck nealh, All the best,

Kin

did not work

RMAing next week

[Suicide King]

Hey guys, forgive the horrible noobishness about to spew forth, but how the heck do I adjust the cpu multiplier? (Running a xeon 3060, once I get the board tweaked it'll all go in the sig) I was sure the Conroe P state Multiplier was the option to change, but no dice... Set to 7 in bios, once I get into windows cpu-z and and AMD manager both read it as 9.. What am I missing?

Also, I seem unable to push past 369 on the fsb, it works fine, but 370 and up and I bluescreen or reboot before getting to windows.

[BlueAqua]

Hey guys, forgive the horrible noobishness about to spew forth, but how the heck do I adjust the cpu multiplier? (Running a xeon 3060, once I get the board tweaked it'll all go in the sig) I was sure the Conroe P state Multiplier was the option to change, but no dice... Set to 7 in bios, once I get into windows cpu-z and and AMD manager both read it as 9.. What am I missing?

Also, I seem unable to push past 369 on the fsb, it works fine, but 370 and up and I bluescreen or reboot before getting to windows.

Try some settings that others have used. Nemesis posted a great chart of what worked for him.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=133423

Conroe P-STATE Multiplier is how you change the multi.

[Suicide King]

Thanks for the link, about the multiplier though.. no other option needs to be set before the conroe p multiplier takes effect? Because, in Bios, like i said, it shows up as 7, what I set it to, but once I get to windows, everything reads it as still being 9...

[BlueAqua]

Could you share your settings using this template?

DFI ICFX3200-T2R/G 12/22 official bios:

Memory Clock Frequency: DDR-400
Current Memory Clock:

Control CPU Frequency: Manual
x CPU Frequency (Mhz):
NB FSB Strapping:
PCI-E Overclock: 100
Software Reset Clockgen: Enabled
Memory Overclocking: Enabled or Disabled
Overclock Frequency (Mhz):

CPU Vid Control:
CPU VID Special ADD: AUTO
DDR2 Ram 1.8 Voltage:
CPU VTT 1.2V Voltage:
NB Core 1.2V Voltage:
NB PLL 1.8V Voltage:
NB PLL 1.2V Voltage:
NB PCI-E 1.2V Voltage:
NB Core 1.2V convert from:
SB Core 1.2V Voltage:
Clockgen Voltage:
GTL REF Voltage control: Enabled
CPU Core 1/2 GTL REF Volt: 48
CPU Core 3/4 GTL REF Volt: 48
North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 128
CPU PLL Setting Overide: Enabled
PLL Override loop count: AUTO
Conroe P-State Multiplier: 9x
C1E Function: Disabled

CS Output Timing: AUTO
CK Output Timing: AUTO
Dual channel Split Mode: Auto
ADDR/CMD Driving Pre-AMP: AUTO or Disabled
ADDR/CMD Driving Strength: 5
Clocking Driving Pre-AMP: Always
Clocking Driving Strength: 5
Address/Command Timing: 1T/2T/3T/AUTO
Memory Timing Select: Manual

CAS Timing (TCAS):
Read RAS-CAS Delay (TRCDR):
Write RAS-CAS Delay (TRCDW):
RAS Precharge Time (TRP):
Cycle Time (TRAS):

Row Cycle Time (TRC):
Refresh to Active (TRFC):
Bank to Bank CMD (TRRD):
Write Recovery (TWR):

Read-Write Command (TRTW):
Write-Write CS (TWTW_CS):
Write-Read Command (TWTR):
Write-Read CS (TWTR_CS):
Read-Read CS (TRTR_CS):
Read Data Transfers:

Memory Auto-Calibration
Read Data Transfer: Enabled
Read Strobe Delay: Disabled
Read Strobe Arrival: Enabled

Northbridge Selections
Memory Channels: Channel A And B
Memory Power Management: Disabled
IGD Clock Gate: Disable
NB Channel Mapping: AUTO
Simple Addr Translation: Disable
Chip-Select Swap: Disable
Burst Length: 8
Bank0 Map GFX: 5
Bank1 Map GFX: 5
Bank2 Map GFX: 5
Channel Mapping NB: 5
Channel Mapping GFX: 1
Bank0 Map NB: 5
Bank1 Map NB: 7
Bank2 Map NB: 5

FSB IO Driving Control: Manual
1X NMOS Strength: 10h
1X PMOS Strength: 10h
2X NMOS Strength: 10h
2X PMOS Strength: 10h
4X NMOS Strength: 10h
4X PMOS Strength: 10h

[kimandsally]

DFI is smart and professionals.....They WILL NOT release a board unless they have eliminated it's "weaknesses".....They where at the TOP as of AMDs and they won't jeopardize their fame with a "faulty" board - EVEN with it's bios....
They will release it as soon as it's TOTALLY ready coz if they hurry up and you buy it and start saying things, it's not good for them....
They will make it "perfect" (in a way - there's no perfection - ) and they will release it......Just be patient and I think that you will be reward.....

That's my words though....

At last sense everytime this happens then the manufacturers get slated, they can't win.

[nealh]

At last sense everytime this happens then the manufacturers get slated, they can't win.

well the board's quality control sure seems suspect to me ..alot of C1 issues

How can a board not have its CMOS cleared...never seen a bios get corrupted by making a change like I did..nothing extreme and board goes belly up

why market it to people who will tinker and have a board so fragile it craps out...I paid a premium for the board at launch...6weeks later it is dead..now I have to RMA and hope for a reliable board

I was very careful not to push too much voltage or what I thought were not too tight of 1:1 settings....

oh well..I paid a premium to newegg to get the mobo...so at least they have excellent CS...

[Kin Hell]

well the board's quality control sure seems suspect to me ..alot of C1 issues

How can a board not have its CMOS cleared...never seen a bios get corrupted by making a change like I did..nothing extreme and board goes belly up

why market it to people who will tinker and have a board so fragile it craps out...I paid a premium for the board at launch...6weeks later it is dead..now I have to RMA and hope for a reliable board

I was very careful not to push too much voltage or what I thought were not too tight of 1:1 settings....

oh well..I paid a premium to newegg to get the mobo...so at least they have excellent CS...

Don't wanna sound cheeky nealh, but I guess providing the Replacement board is a Live one... you're gunno go for 1:1 with a lower FSB, like a safe 340 and work your way up!?

I wouldn't blame ya for not wanting to tbh! By the time my 3rd arrived, I was beyond caring & now crave for a "smoke out" on any next-death scenario. Got a pointy-click camera ready just in case!

*Edit* Nice Chart from Nemesis..hadn't picked up on that with shallow trawling.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=133423

Nice one Nemesis.

[BlueAqua]

Just messing with a bit of watercooling now.





These settings are working quite stable for me. More testing will continue.

[Ten]

BlueAqua it looks like u put the fans inside the Shroud?

[BlueAqua]

BlueAqua it looks like u put the fans inside the Shroud?

I did actually, just temporary as I didn't have any screws long enough to attach them correctly. Still works though.

[Ten]

yaeh it wrks but i looks strange but it's just temporary so

[Kin Hell]

I did actually, just temporary as I didn't have any screws long enough to attach them correctly. Still works though.

Flip the fans so they Suck thro' the Rad, as opposed to blowing. This will help reduce the Dead Zone immediately behind the centre of the fan.

[nealh]

Don't wanna sound cheeky nealh, but I guess providing the Replacement board is a Live one... you're gunno go for 1:1 with a lower FSB, like a safe 340 and work your way up!?

I wouldn't blame ya for not wanting to tbh! By the time my 3rd arrived, I was beyond caring & now crave for a "smoke out" on any next-death scenario. Got a pointy-click camera ready just in case!

*Edit* Nice Chart from Nemesis..hadn't picked up on that with shallow trawling.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=133423



Nice one Nemesis.

Nope no more 1:1 ..IMHO this board is not made for it..way too finicky and fragile...

I will try to get back to 3500(9x 390):500 ram..and be done tweaking and screwing around

I just fear how voltage may need to be tweaked again..so ticked, i should have done as I promised myself...stopped and been happy

I did enjoy tinkering because the board seemed OK and it was interesting to see the effects....

But I am convinced it is just not up to be stressed much in any fashion

I may try a new bios if they but one out officially

[metalman2785]

Nope no more 1:1 ..IMHO this board is not made for it..way too finicky and fragile...

I will try to get back to 3500(9x 390):500 ram..and be done tweaking and screwing around

I just fear how voltage may need to be tweaked again..so ticked, i should have done as I promised myself...stopped and been happy

I did enjoy tinkering because the board seemed OK and it was interesting to see the effects....

But I am convinced it is just not up to be stressed much in any fashion

I may try a new bios if they but one out officially

Yes, run your ram Async, the board loves that

[marauder16]

currently @ 3.5GHz (390*9) at 1.4V set in BIOS, everything else at stock, dual orthos 14+hrs stable (and that's dual for stressing all the memory) and I'm very happy with it.
But anything over 400MHz FSB is getting unstable, with all voltages raised, I'll have to explore this... I'll be tweaking mem. later, here a screenshot of the benching:

[Suicide King]

@ Blue Aqua


Here are my settings:

DFI ICFX3200-T2R/G 12/22 official bios:

Memory Clock Frequency: DDR-400
Current Memory Clock:400

Control CPU Frequency: Manual
x CPU Frequency (Mhz):3596
NB FSB Strapping:Auto
PCI-E Overclock: 100
Software Reset Clockgen: Enabled
Memory Overclocking: Enabled
Overclock Frequency (Mhz):400

CPU Vid Control:1.4
CPU VID Special ADD: AUTO
DDR2 Ram 1.8 Voltage:2.20
CPU VTT 1.2V Voltage:1.21
NB Core 1.2V Voltage:1.48
NB PLL 1.8V Voltage:1.93
NB PLL 1.2V Voltage:1.21
NB PCI-E 1.2V Voltage:1.22
NB Core 1.2V convert from:1.81
SB Core 1.2V Voltage:1.23
Clockgen Voltage:2.92
GTL REF Voltage control: Enabled
CPU Core 1/2 GTL REF Volt: 48
CPU Core 3/4 GTL REF Volt: 48
North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 128
CPU PLL Setting Overide: Enabled
PLL Override loop count: AUTO
Conroe P-State Multiplier: Set to 7 in Bios, showing up and acting as 9 , which is the problem
C1E Function: Disabled

CS Output Timing: Delay 1/4th
CK Output Timing: AUTO
Dual channel Split Mode: Auto
ADDR/CMD Driving Pre-AMP: Disabled
ADDR/CMD Driving Strength: 5
Clocking Driving Pre-AMP: Always
Clocking Driving Strength: 5
Address/Command Timing: 2T
Memory Timing Select: Manual

CAS Timing (TCAS):4
Read RAS-CAS Delay (TRCDR):4
Write RAS-CAS Delay (TRCDW):4
RAS Precharge Time (TRP):4
Cycle Time (TRAS):12

Row Cycle Time (TRC):24
Refresh to Active (TRFC):42
Bank to Bank CMD (TRRD):3
Write Recovery (TWR):6

Read-Write Command (TRTW):3
Write-Write CS (TWTW_CS):2
Write-Read Command (TWTR):3
Write-Read CS (TWTR_CS):2
Read-Read CS (TRTR_CS):2
Read Data Transfers:5

Memory Auto-Calibration
Read Data Transfer: Enabled
Read Strobe Delay: Disabled
Read Strobe Arrival: Enabled

Northbridge Selections
Memory Channels: Channel A And B
Memory Power Management: Disabled
IGD Clock Gate: Disable
NB Channel Mapping: AUTO
Simple Addr Translation: Disable
Chip-Select Swap: Disable
Burst Length: 8
Bank0 Map GFX: 5
Bank1 Map GFX: 5
Bank2 Map GFX: 5
Channel Mapping NB: 5
Channel Mapping GFX: 1
Bank0 Map NB: 5
Bank1 Map NB: 7
Bank2 Map NB: 5

FSB IO Driving Control: Manual
1X NMOS Strength: 10h
1X PMOS Strength: 10h
2X NMOS Strength: 10h
2X PMOS Strength: 10h
4X NMOS Strength: 10h
4X PMOS Strength: 10h

Thanks for the link, that allowed me to break the fsb limit I was facing before, but I really need to drop the multiplier before I push the fsb higher. As I mentioned, even though the Conroe P multiplier is set to 7 it's acting as 9. Only possible thing I can think of is it being a side effect of using a Xeon.. But I have yet to find anyone else encountering the issue.

[kimandsally]

OCZ tony confirmed and I doubt he got a hand picked... If he says it does 511FSB, it will. Most or all of his reviews / speculation has been on target before.,

absoluetly spot on, I bought mine JUST because I read Tonys posts, in the past every time I have followed what he says I have had zero problems, it makes sense to follow him he knows 100% what he's doing and more to the point he kind enough to spread the word.

[nealh]

currently @ 3.5GHz (390*9) at 1.4V set in BIOS, everything else at stock, dual orthos 14+hrs stable (and that's dual for stressing all the memory) and I'm very happy with it.
But anything over 400MHz FSB is getting unstable, with all voltages raised, I'll have to explore this... I'll be tweaking mem. later, here a screenshot of the benching:

Be very careful with Syncing memory on this board

I really think this is a bad thing and stress the chipset way too much...until a bios is released priven to work in sync mode...beware

I ran sync mode 4 time on my mobo...literally 4 times...the last one at lowest setting 380 1:1 ..killed it

I have no idea why or how

[erwinz]

currently @ 3.5GHz (390*9) at 1.4V set in BIOS, everything else at stock, dual orthos 14+hrs stable (and that's dual for stressing all the memory) and I'm very happy with it.
But anything over 400MHz FSB is getting unstable, with all voltages raised, I'll have to explore this... I'll be tweaking mem. later, here a screenshot of the benching:

very nice..

bro Ive seen your rig on the water cooling case post..

what blocks are you using?? have you water colled the chipset??

I'm planning to water cool my setup..

thanks

[marauder16]

Be very careful with Syncing memory on this board

I really think this is a bad thing and stress the chipset way too much...until a bios is released priven to work in sync mode...beware

I ran sync mode 4 time on my mobo...literally 4 times...the last one at lowest setting 380 1:1 ..killed it

I have no idea why or how

that's not sync, memory is just waiting on MB stock to be tweaked, I have no reason to run it at sync.

@erwinz:thnx man, my w.c. setup is in my sig, I'm planning on putting a HR-05 on the chipset, but I'm not going to watercool it.

btw. got 3.6GHz stable, going to bench 3.7GHz, I'm not stopping before I get into the 4GHz club

[BlueAqua]

My first under 13 second 1M super Pi.


and at 4.1Ghz

[Suicide King]

So no one knows a fix for the multiplier issue I'm facing then?

[BlueAqua]

So no one knows about the multiplier issue I'm facing then?

Sorry, all of your settings look fine, I'm not sure what would cause the problem.

[Ten]

BlueAqua Nice clock, still on water?