I gota do this
My core 2 is lapped now time to go to home depot
I gota do this
My core 2 is lapped now time to go to home depot
FOLD for XS WCG ; or Rodzilla kills a kitten
This looks like a good cheap option for a backplate too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835999351
It's pretty much the same as the thermalright bolt-through kit that was mentioned earlier, except a little cheaper (basically because you aren't paying for the screws & top retention system, which you wouldn't use anyways.)
This mod for the Infinity is really impressiveI always wondered why the Infinity didn't do better in review/comparisons. I'm very close to deciding to get an Infinity and do this mount mod, as well as use two quiet fans (like yate loons.) I had previously thought about using an Ultra-120, as I love Thermalright stuff, but it looks like this setup would probably edge the Ultra-120 out a bit.
The only other thing I've been considering is a fairly inexpensive water cooling setup (probably no more than $150-$200,) but I"m not sure if the added cost would provide enough benefit over this modded air setup (other than bragging rights, I suppose.) I'm planning on upgrading to an e6600 in a few months, with a minimum overclock goal of 3.6ghz.
Edit: One other thing, what is a good way to mount a second fan on the Infinity, as they only give you clips for one fan? Tape/zipties would work I know, but I'm looking for a more elegant/professional method if possible.
Couldn't you screw one fan to the other as you would for any other inline dual fan arrangement.
no becuase both fans spin in the same direction. Also, if you evenhave to compare if water cooling would be worth it against high end air cooling, it probably isnt IMHO.Originally Posted by GAM
Specs:
- e6600 3.2ghz, 1.35vcore (MAX 3.9ghz 1.7v) Cooling: Project_Infinity: The search for the best quiet air cooling.
- P5W DH Deluxe Cooling Mod
- 2048mb Patiot PC2 5300 @ 890mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2.15v (MAX 1053mhz 2.35v)
- Nvidia 8800gt
- Silverstone ST75F 750watt
- Modded Asus Vento (Black) *Heavy Case Modding In Progress*
[EDIT: sorry, I just realised what you're talking about. I was envisaging the wrong cooler, one with a fan mounted on top rather on one side. The objective here is to install them either side in a 'push/pull' arrangement. Sorry.
Cable ties it is, or find another mounting clip. You could probably even make up your own clip using appropriate wire.]
I must be missing something, but I assumed they wanted to install two fans, one on top of the other, to increase the air flow (in the same direction, down over the heatsink). Hence, screw one fan on top of the other (using standard fan screws) and clip the bottom one to the heatsink.
Last edited by GAM; 02-11-2007 at 03:43 PM.
Do you think adding a sleeve around the infinity would cause it to cool more efficiently?
I'm thinking that some air is escaping from the sides of the cooler, and thus the reason dual fans improve airflow so much. Seeing as the fins are doubled up around the 10 heat-pipes, it seems like air could be pushing outward. Maybe a hood would allow air to better flow thru to the other side.
My infinity is OTW and I'm planning on making a hood, maybe out of tin. Also using the stock fan (~35CFM) along with a Silverstone 110cfm fan. Stock fan = pull and Silverstone = push.
Thoughts?
I think a sleeve would help a bit, but when you use a silverstone 110cfm for push, it wont do much good (but no bad neither..).
For materials, I'd suggest something like the polyglaze I used on my TTBT CPU duct.
no it wont really change the performance...ive tried it. An Infinity with Push><Push fan config seems to get the best temps, better than Pull<<Push.
Specs:
- e6600 3.2ghz, 1.35vcore (MAX 3.9ghz 1.7v) Cooling: Project_Infinity: The search for the best quiet air cooling.
- P5W DH Deluxe Cooling Mod
- 2048mb Patiot PC2 5300 @ 890mhz, 4-4-4-12, 2.15v (MAX 1053mhz 2.35v)
- Nvidia 8800gt
- Silverstone ST75F 750watt
- Modded Asus Vento (Black) *Heavy Case Modding In Progress*
I didn't see any changes from normal push to push-pull.
But I'll have to try push-push.
what about this?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=OTC-SortPrice
Can I use M4 screws, will they fit? M3 are to damn small.
If you had read the entire topic, you would have known that I also used M4, which indeed fits perfectly.Can I use M4 screws, will they fit? M3 are to damn small.
Well, I didn't read all and every word.
Thanks for the help!
What can I use if I can't find any springs? I've searched the entire city and nothing this small.
No need for springs, just use plastic (or at least isolated..) rings.. (soft material).What can I use if I can't find any springs? I've searched the entire city and nothing this small.
Same problem.
I think I will try to make a few of them out of some rubber.
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Made something.
Last edited by korby; 02-14-2007 at 06:53 AM.
Looks goodSame problem.
I think I will try to make a few of them out of some rubber.
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Made something.
Looks even better.
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PS: I think I'll buy "Thermalright LGA775 Bolt Thru" when I'll have the oportunity.
Last edited by korby; 02-14-2007 at 08:31 AM.
I attached my Infinity to my AW9D-MAX using the Thermalright LGA775 RM:
and some ¾” long #6 socket-head cap screws.
I wasn’t concerned so much about overclocking as component fatigue. With the Infinity running almost twice the mass of the Intel reference design, I was concerned about the ability of the clips to maintain the necessary socket preload and about twisting of the motherboard around the socket.
I mounted the back plate to the motherboard after drilling out the 3mm tapped holes. I also filed off the small bosses around the holes. Small cresent-shaped plastic “washers” were made to insulate the ends of the back plate and to stand-off the plate so it doesn’t interference with the required motherboard deflection under the socket.
The heatsink clips sit on 0.1” “spacers” that I cut from 3/8”x 1" Nylon bushings. I original cut them using a X-acto Razor saw and miterbox, and then sanded them for hours, (or so it seemed.) Then it occurred to me to chuck them in my drill press and cut them out using the tip of an Xacto knife. I used one good one as a tool rest and cranked out the rest in no time. The 0.1” corresponds to the stand-off of the reference clips. Since I don’t know how to properly calculate or measure the required 18 –70 lbf preload needed to protect the solder joints in the processor socket, I’ll assume that Scythe factored that into the clip. If you're interested in increasing the pressure on the HSF/processor interface, you could use thinner spacers.
I wanted to mount my Infinity to exhaust out the top of my Antec 900. It just fits, but I’m crowding a couple capacitors, here:
and here:
The ¾” screws are a little long, but I drilled access holes in the motherboard tray so it wasn’t an issue. The next time I remount it I’ll probably trim them with a jewel's saw. (It make very clean cuts that won’t mangle the threads.) I think that using an allen wrench to reach under the heatsink and a nut driver from under the motherboard is actually easier than the standard clips, (at least on the MAX).
I did notice that I’ll need to be more careful with the alignment while I’m tightening the screws. (I had actually started to install push nuts to hold the screws in alignment, but removed them after reading the recommendation for rotating the HSF after it contacts the TIM. I’m reconsidering that option for the future.
It doesnt HAVE to be brass does it or did i miss something ? :p
this is the ninja mounted to my board with the TT bolt-thru kit.
i put washers between the spring and the mounting clips to apply more pressure.
i feel my temps are still a bit high
in TAT/Speedfan beta at 1.35v at 3.25ghz under orthos small fft load i get to about 65/63 on cores after half an hour. in speedfan the tcase temp hits about 58. at these settings my idle is about 50/48 in TAT for the cores and about 39 for Tcase in speedfan.
at 1.31v at 3.15ghz i get about 60/58 max core temps after 30 minutes of orthos small fft. the Tcase temp as reported by speedfan beta hangs out at about 53c under load. idle i get about 35c for my Tcase in speedfan, and 48/46 for my cores in TAT.
what do u think? i feel this is high. i feel i should be getting my temps at 1.35-1.36volts what i am getting at 1.31v.
this chip can fly, i ran it at 3.6ghz stable at 1.4v but didnt keep it there long during tests, but it ran them fine. temps scared me. id like to run this at 3.4 24/7 but i would need about 1.4v and with these results at 1.35 i dont see this happening.
i lapped the cpu well. used up to 800 grit. checked it with a razor blade and i didnt see light. the heatsink was also lapped. i didnt worry about a mirror finish, i was more concerned with flatness. i went up to 1500 grit. the razor blade test was not as perfect as the chip but very close.
i applied the right amount of as5, the thin line down the middle of the chip as per their website.
the mounting has enough pressure, as i can see that i have threading left to screw down more, but i cant - i leaned down hard on the screwdriver and tightened them as much as they would go. i ground down the ninja mounting clip part with my dremel, which was touching a few capacitors, there is nothing impeding the ninja.
im thinking of getting a different heatsink to see if that is the issue. along with this grease - supposedly a 3c improvement from as5
http://www.crazypc.com/products/50118.html
suggestions comments?
ambient temps are just around 70 degrees F
my case temps are nice. my hard drive temps in speedfan are excellent. i did a good wiring job so that airflow in my p180 is unobstructed.it isnt the prettiest, but it is fairly efficient. there are no wires in the middle of the case where airflow is moving. they are run around the bottom and sides mostly. i also put in a front intake yate loon fan in front of the middle hd bay where one hd resides.
this is my case with my first mobo, the p5n-e sli - but is just as clean with my gigabyte. in fact cleaner since i bought an extension cord for my 4pin mobo power cord and ran it out of the way. it is not across the board as in the pic here.
i have a dremel so i plan on making a few cuts on this case down the road, and wiring everything behind the board. making it virtually wire free in the main part of the case.
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as per a suggestion on another board - kicking up my two antec tri cools exhaust fans from low to medium speed lowered temps a full 4 c both on Tcase and on each core on idle. the fan on the ninja is a scythe flex - but only jsut a low speed. i may get throw a tri cool on the ninja, and put the scythe on the top exhaust where i get the most noise from.
what do u think?
further testing now under load and with higher oc'ing.
i dont particularly like the noise. still quieter than a lot of pc's though.
what i would like is a heatsink that requires less exhaust power than this ninja does.
edit: at the 1.35v at 3.25ghz - now after 10 min orthos temps are down significantly - 5c each core down from 65-63c to 60-58c
and from 59c to 52c Tcase temp in speedfan.
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Are the screws bottoming out on the back panel? I'd think you'd
want the springs to be near-to bottomed out to get high pressure...
the screws are close to but not bottomed out. and like i said, i really tried hard to screw them down. i leaned on the screw with all my weight on the screw driver and turned em once they got tight.
the way i look at it the washers force the spring to coil back and the increased tension should increase pressure.
or am i wrong?
increasing my exhaust fans to medium speed got my temps dandy - but, i wish it was quieter.
i think taking the scythe flex fan off the ninja, putting a faster fan on there, and replacing the top exhaust with the flex would be effective, and keep less noise blowing right out the top of my case.
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