this whole debate over what CPU to get it pointless.........24/7 people will hardly notice these changes

benchmarking is a different story and as things are atm good E6600 with 975X mobo for air/water is the best way to go.............or P5BD+E6600+phase for the budget conscious

that's one PITA about Intel..........you HAVE to buy the Extreme chips to compete..........AMD NF4 was not as motherboard limited as these..........remembers how easy it was for the Ultra-D/Expert to boot and benchmark at 420+MHz HTT >> too bad about the cold bug that's all

maybe future revisions of motherboards will be able to perform better we'll see