E6600 Step 5 + Intel 975XBX Installed

[taemun]

for eva

Thanks for sharing (as per usual )

[easyrider]

the bios 1304 is great
I'm dual prime @ 3600mhz, 50% OC, 1.325v, 1.395/1.725...all from bios settings

430fsb is usually the max with an unmodded board ?

I take it you did the short mod?

as I have just flashed yo 1304 bios and all my oc options have dissapeared

[Metroid]

Bad axe is the most stable motherboard ever seen till now, but it lacks other important features.

[eva2000]

thanks guys... 3dmark results coming next

I take it you did the short mod?

as I have just flashed yo 1304 bios and all my oc options have dissapeared

I haven't even shorted the oc debug pin yet on my above results hehe.. all i did was flash to custom modded 1304 bios i made using ITK app

[easyrider]

thanks guys... 3dmark results coming next


I haven't even shorted the oc debug pin yet on my above results hehe.. all i did was flash to custom modded 1304 bios i made using ITK app

can you email me that bios?

pls

[day187]

nice work and glad to see you are not shy with your conroe i been waiting for some dual action

[eva2000]

thanks

can you email me that bios?

pls

I'm using modded 1304 bios with default strap set at 1333fsb but with -20 negative burnin by default, so you still get 266fsb for default cpu and with 533 divider you still get 1:1

I made 3 versions of this bios, one with default 1.45v, 1.50 and 1.55v vcore set. I'm using 1.5v vcore (1.441v) version right now

Ya need ITK method of bios update outlined at http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=96648

1.45v bios - only the 5 files missing the winxp bootable floppy created files so do that yourself or grab them from other 2 bioses below.
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3fsb/1.45v.zip

1.50v bios one i'm using now gives me 1.441v real vcore
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3fsb/1.50v.zip

1.55v bios - have yet to try myself yet will do next in light of my below 3dmark05 results below
http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...3fsb/1.55v.zip

Note, use at your own risk, i take no responsibility for any damages done when using the above 3 bioses



Okay here's what ya been waiting for I guess, some 3dmark action

Thought I'd start off with my 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX @473(525)/1350 for all below tests in SLI mode with some special drivers

System:

• E6600 QPGE Step 5 / B1
• Swiftech G4 Storm H20 on cpu with Thermochill 120.3 (3x 120x38mm panaflo 103cfm fans/MCP650
• Intel D975XBX Badaxe rev 304 no physical mods with 1304 modded bios
• 2x 512MB OCZ PC5400 Platinum Enhanced Latency XTC 3-3-3-12 rated DDR2
• 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock hsf SLI 84.66
• 320GB Seagate 7200.10 SATA 16MB
• CD-RW drive / FDD
• 700W OCZ GameXStream

Stock @2400Mhz (9x266fsb) with 4:5 (667)
for memory @333Mhz 3-3-3-15 at 2.1v

3dmark06 = 8,328



3dmark05 = 13,345



@3004Mhz (9x333fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @333Mhz 3-3-3-15 at 2.1v

3dmark06 = 8,757



3dmark05 = 15,521
(dam that's fast and i haven't even clocked the video cards higher yet and look at the >10k cpu score!)



@3422Mhz (9x380fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @380Mhz 4-4-3-15 at 2.2v

3dmark06 = 8,989



3dmark06 = 16,286



@3809Mhz (9x423fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @423Mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

vcore = 1.441v

3dmark06 = 9,166



3dmark05 = frooze in cpu test #1

@3780Mhz (9x420fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @420Mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

vcore = 1.441v

3dmark05 = rebooted system from cpu test #2

@3750Mhz (9x416fsb) with 1:1 (533)
for memory @416Mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v

vcore = 1.441v

3dmark05 = 16,724



Seems quickest way to find stability is 3dmark05 cpu test equivalent to my 2hr dual stressprime run at 3750mhz at 1.441v

Reminder, all above scores are with 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX @473(525)/1350!

Now comapre this to my best FX-60 score so far with 2x 256MB BFG 7800GTX stock HSF @493(541)/1370-77

Click on images for full screenies





I'll do oc'd SLI tests next

[Lestat]

now correct me if i am wrong here. but it looks liek it took the Conroe to run at 3.4 to run almost even, in 3dmark atleast, with the FX-60 @ 3.4
that sound about right ?

why does this seem not right ?

or does the FX just scale that good ? considering the bus and ram speed of the conroe wouldnt one want to believe that the conroe would be just kicking the crap out of the FX-60 ?

[eva2000]

Nah re-read

E6600 @3422mhz was with cards @473(525)/1350

vs

FX-60 @3408-3440mhz with cards @493(541)/1377

cards clocked higher on FX-60

[Lestat]

the fx60 cards arent clocked higher enough to make any difference at all.
20mhz doesnt make any difference on these cards. you have to overclock them quite a bit to get a rise out of them.

E6600 @ 3.4
vs
FX-60 @ 3.4

shows almost similar 3dmark scores regardless of the 10mhz difference in clocks.

that just doesnt seem right
the FX-60 has EXTREMELY low FSB and memory while the E6600 has very high FSB and memory.

i mean lets be honest thats real world stuff Eva...
some real game benchmarks would result in a more true to life result.

now try some multimedia and other benches,, thats where i think the conroe is going to truly shine.

try to setup the FX 60 with a higher HTT and memory so the memory speeds and such are closer together and try it.

what im seeing goes against eveything else that i have been seeing.

unless im not seeing something here that FX is hanging right in there with the conroe which has a much higher overclock and fsb and ram/bus speed.
i cant think right off the top of my head what the stock clock on an FX-60 is.

[eva2000]

FX-60 has cold bug hence low HTT heh. But yes real world for 3dmark/gaming conroe's margin over FX-60 @3.4ghz at least is alot less heh.

FX-60 stock is 13x200HTT = 2600mhz heh


Okay first oc'd SLI test





AM3 = 172,668

[eva2000]

2x 512MB OCZ PC5400 Plat XTC maxes at 2.2v @423-426mhz 4-4-4-8/15

2x 512MB Corsair PC5400ULv1.5 Fatbody D9 Micron so far at 2.2v @506mhz 4-4-4-15 and still haven't tried higher yet.

Click image for full timings and mem screenshot


At 3649Mhz 9x405fsb and 4:5 506mhz 4-4-4-15 only 8 seconds slower than @3809Mhz (9x423fsb) and ram @423mhz 4-4-4-8 of 15min 05s!

5400ULv1.5 now at 3816Mhz 9x424fsb 4:5 with ram @530mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v



Crazy 530mhz 4-4-4-15 at 2.2v which is 33 seconds faster than @3809Mhz (9x423fsb) and ram @423mhz 4-4-4-8 of 15min 05s

[eva2000]

I'm back on 1067fsb strap and with E6600 only having 9x multiplier had to do 9x389fsb 1:1 with ram at 389mhz 4-4-4-5 at 2.2v

seems with my 2x512MB PC5400ULv1.5 ram i can do 389fsb easy with 1067fsb strap straight boot from bios - stock unmodded badaxe rev304



I loose 438-389 = 49mhz off memory clocks compared to a E6700 @10x350fsb 4:5 438mhz 4-4-4-5 and loose +20s off 32M with 2x512MB vs 2x1GB heh

Getting the hang of this board and cpu now, 1067fsb strap with 9x400fsb with 2x512MB PC5400ULv1.5 @400mhz 4-4-4-5 at 2.2v straight boot from bios with +50% burnin.



This is what it takes on Badaxe with 1304 bios for 2x 512MB modules on 1067fsb strap 1:1 cpu:mem to break 14min 28s single 32M. Booted straight from bios at 9x400fsb and used clockgen to raise fsb to 404.7fsb for 3646Mhz with ram @404mhz 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v



Crazy 1067fsb strap with 9x411fsb = 3703mhz with 2x512MB PC5400ULv1.5 ram @411mhz 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v totally unmodded badaxe rev304.



@9x415fsb 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v!



@9x418fsb 4-4-3-5 at 2.2v breaks 14min for 1st time



I wonder if how high fsb you can clock on 1067fsb is memory dependent ? i.e.

on 1067fsb with 2.2v vdimm 1304 bios

2x256MB Centon PC4300 Advance Micron D9 fatties = max 382fsb

2x512MB OCZ PC5400 Platinum XTC = max 378fsb

2x512MB Corsair PC5400ULv1.5 Micron D9 fatties = so far completed 32M upto 418fsb and doing 32M run @421fsb!

[eva2000]

Decided to change the stock northbridge (MCH) heatsink as it appears better MCH/NB cooling = higher FSB

Easiest way to remove stock bad axe NB heatsink is to:

1. Unhinge the spring on one side
2. See in this pic here , the 2 diamond club shape tabs at top of heatsink. Unhinge them from the heatsink and the black clips just falls off.

I installed my 2nd Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler, 169g of copper goodness @19dba fan noise



Full pics here http://fileshosts.com/intel/Intel975...heatsink/html/

[v0dka]

Eva2000, just wanted to say that this is one of the cleanest and best organised threads I've ever seen. Beautiful.

Interesting results as well, seems that the FX isnt far behind clock for clock and that Conroe's main advantages are higher stable speeds with less cooling and the absence of coldbug.

[Primoz78]

I installed my 2nd Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler, 169g of copper goodness @19dba fan noise

What is the difference in °C between the stock and the Spirit?

Regards,
Primoz

[eva2000]

if the bios remote and internal temps reports are NB then around 2-3C cooler so far from bios... before 28-30C now 25-28C

Eva2000, just wanted to say that this is one of the cleanest and best organised threads I've ever seen. Beautiful.

Interesting results as well, seems that the FX isnt far behind clock for clock and that Conroe's main advantages are higher stable speeds with less cooling and the absence of coldbug.

thanks.. it's nice to be appreciated and even nicer the smell of fresh new hardware

[Kallenator]

Very nice as allways Eva

But you might want to check this out.
3dmark06 = 16,286 | just a little glitch

What are the temps Load Idle?

[WeedJunk]

Looks sweet, that Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler. Looks like full copper, right?

[Primoz78]

Looks sweet, that Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler. Looks like full copper, right?

As eva2000 said:
I installed my 2nd Thermaltake Extreme Spirit II chipset cooler, 169g of copper goodness @19dba fan noise

...I think it is full of copper

Regards,
Primoz

[[XC] Angstrom]

eva: Do the caps around the socket give you any trouble with the Storm, would it be possible for you to mount it vertically (as opposed to horizontally like you have now) without issues?

[eva2000]

yeah full copper = 169g

Very nice as allways Eva

But you might want to check this out.
3dmark06 = 16,286 | just a little glitch

What are the temps Load Idle?

whoops 3dmark05 heh

temps of what chipset ? in windows can't read chipset temps heh

eva: Do the caps around the socket give you any trouble with the Storm, would it be possible for you to mount it vertically (as opposed to horizontally like you have now) without issues?

only mounting the way i pictured other way the blue heatsinks are too tall and get in the way that and if you could mount storm other way, it would obstruct the space for a 3rd party chipset cooler if you intend to use one heh

[Waus-mod]

Great going eva

[Kallenator]

Was thinking about CPU Idle/Load, sorry about that one :p

[eva2000]

3750MHZ at 1.441v = 33-34C idle and 59C dual stressprime load - already posted this in this thread