Looks like ATI just Released a 1000 Pound Guerilla to Fight the 7900 GT

[Kunaak]

well, the 7900 GT was nice for awhile...

the 7900 GT is essentially a OC'd 7800 GTX.
its got some incredibly performance, at a great price.

a few days ago, ATI really had nothing in this price range to go against it.

seems they pulled a 1-2 punch and just dropped the X1800XT down to $300 new.

the X1800XT was the direct competitor of the old 512 meg 7800 GTX... which as we all know, stomped the 256 meg GTX.

with it's 625 mhz core, and 1500 mhz ram...
and 512 meg of VRam.
this looks like the new King of the Mid Range Market.

I had thought ATI was dropping the X1800XT all together.
but now it seems like if ATI can keep this card, on the market, at the $300 price mark, it's the "new card to beat"

(I say that ironically since technically its not new)

the X1800XT had a short life span.
but with this new move, seems ATI has just took over the mid range market and given a whole new life to the X1800XT.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102007

[bullet2urbrain]

EDIT: its late.. and im dumb. i for some reason was thinking that the 7900GT was a 512meg card.


my apology.. that is a sweet price.. lets see how they perform

[Vincentvega18]

I thought it was the x1800xt 512 that competed with the gtx 512. I was under the impression than the 256 xt would be owned by the new 7800 512?
edit:couldnt hit post fast enough

[Kunaak]

yep, yah got me there...

didn't even realize there was a 256 meg version of this card haha...

[bullet2urbrain]

still tho.. cuz thats what i had written... but i think you may still be right there Kunaak.

what is the difference..

the X1800XT soundly beat the GTX 256.. which is basically now remove the extra 256 of mem it had.. but keep the same clocks that were on each card.

this may still be a better card for 50 bux less

[Kunaak]

yes, it is still one hell of a nice card.
the 512 would have been nice.

but honestly though, I've seen cheap 512 meg X1800's in the last 2 months, cause almost no one seems to be buying them, even on the OC forums.
so they been going dirt cheap lately.
thought ATI would have caught on to that, and just dropped the price on them by now.

they are still $500 new at newegg...

[trakslacker]

wow...that's really impressive, even for the 256MB version.

Funny how the graphics market moved really slowly through the X8x0/6800 range, and now new revisions of card are seemingly coming out every month. Great time to be a consumer.

[DelaMaris]

But you can't OC 1800XT like 7900GT...

[cirthix]

more competition = lower prices

good news

[ReD.SkY]

if i had choice, i would pick the 7900GT over the x1800 256...

the 7900GT just is umm... new!

[Absolute_0]

I'm still siding with the 7900GT on this one

The X1800XT beats the 7800GTX, but we're talking about a 256mb version of the X1800XT, add on top of that the fact that 7900GT > 7800GTX.

And then to me, lower heat output and superior overclockability of the 7900GT give it a winning edge. The one i just orered is 520/1500 by default, that's a pretty good factory overclock seeing as how 7800GTX stock is 430/1200 lol...

[chew*]

But you can't OC 1800XT like 7900GT...

really? hows 823/981 sound for not OCing?

[Kunaak]

correct me if I am wrong, but can't X1800's easily hit 1800 mhz or more on the ram... and features voltages that you can adjust within windows offering much higher OC potential... without the need for volt mods?

I don't see how a 7900 GT... has "Much" higher OC potential.

both great cards obviously.
but I dont think it would be fair to claim the X1800's aren't as Overclockable... when they obviously did great in the past.

[Pandora's Box]

7900gt's can hit 1800mhz on the ram to.

mines clocked at 580mhz core 1800mhz ram.

[chew*]

ok now try 1960 on ram.......................or better yet thats a cherry WR card just shoot for 1900 as almost every x1800xt i have seen can do that.

[afireinside]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102007

Tempting...

[Vapor]

Who cares about RAM speed...it's all about TOTAL speed when both are OC'd.

I bet with STOCK coolings, the X1800XT is better....but as cooling improves, the 7900GT starts to pull away.

[Absolute_0]

We should have a showdown - but if i bring a 7900GT to the table, 520/1500 stock speeds are going to be considered stock speeds! :P

[keiths]

Power consumption. I've been waiting to upgrade because I don't want a yearly electric bill that rivals the card's purchase price. Nvidia wins my dollars.

[Kunaak]

We should have a showdown - but if i bring a 7900GT to the table, 520/1500 stock speeds are going to be considered stock speeds! :P

no they are not.

stock speeds for a 7900 GT is 450/1320

what you have is a pre overclocked 7900 GT.

since the X1800XT will be running at it's stock refernece clock, so should the 7900 GT.

otherwise, its not a direct comparision.
now if you want to OC the X1800XT against the 7900 GT, that would be fair, assuming they were done in the same PC, and by the same person (same level of experience)

[Absolute_0]

I think if you buy a card factory overclocked, stock speeds are stock speeds. You pay for the factory overclock. My card was 300$, the X1800XT is 300$, it's a perfect direct comparison.

If you want to do an overclocked test, you would have to overclock both the X1800XT and 7900GT.

To be fair though, in my proposed showdown it would have to be labeled XFX7900GT versus X1800XT, because it's performance doesn't represent ALL 7900GTs.

[Kunaak]

its not a direct comparision cause every X1800XT since they came out have run the same speed.

so it's not a side by side comparison when one card is running its stock reference speed, and another is running pre overclocked.

ATI has a strict standard for their cards.
where Nvidia let companies OC thier cards.

its not a side by side comparision, when no 7900 GT from any company seems to have the same clock speed.
cause then all your doing is comparing one single brand of 7900 GT against the entire X1800XT line.

[Jupiler]

As I just bought a 20" LCD (will be picking it up later today), I'm tempted in upgrading my videocard too (X800XT). This, because I'd like to play at 1600x1200, with all eye candy on. I don't have a clue though if my X800XT will be able to handle that.

The X1800XT 512MB has come down in price for the past weeks (listed at 349€ in some stores and even around 330€ right now).
The 7900GT goes around 300-350€ (for the higher overclocked XFX cards).

The 512MB on the X1800XT might be better suited for me, because the extra 256MB compared to the 7900GT will give me more performance at higher resolutions.
At least, that's what I think. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

[Absolute_0]

its not a direct comparision cause every X1800XT since they came out have run the same speed.

so it's not a side by side comparison when one card is running its stock reference speed, and another is running pre overclocked.

ATI has a strict standard for their cards.
where Nvidia let companies OC thier cards.

its not a side by side comparision, when no 7900 GT from any company seems to have the same clock speed.
cause then all your doing is comparing one single brand of 7900 GT against the entire X1800XT line.

That's why i added in that 3rd line to my post man. If you mention XFX7900GT, it becomes a perfectly fair benchmark. It will just represent XFX7900GTs, not all 7900GTs. But since they're both 300$, seems fair to me.

Wonder if this site is legit
http://newsite.pagecomputers.com/sto...ookie%5Ftest=1
270$ 7900GT. Wow.

[adz]

both good cards for the money and who will take advantage is the customers