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    no one can help me with the best timmings for the tccd memory with a opteron dual core 165 with the bios 1.C Beta 3 No Temp Edition.. when i put the bh5 memory, the computer work fine, when put the tccd make a lot of erros..
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulopais
    no one can help me with the best timmings for the tccd memory with a opteron dual core 165 with the bios 1.C Beta 3 No Temp Edition.. when i put the bh5 memory, the computer work fine, when put the tccd make a lot of erros..
    does your TCCD pass memtest86 at STD ? - just sent mine back for RMA
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    anyone here succesfull to run 2x1gb sticks beyond ddr500?
    i see in the ranks, almost all were on nf4 boards
    tried 1c.tccd SE mod bios, also a no go
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus...
    does your TCCD pass memtest86 at STD ? - just sent mine back for RMA
    yeap.. in my dfi expert they do 300 at 2.5-3-3-6
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-jump
    anyone here succesfull to run 2x1gb sticks beyond ddr500?
    i see in the ranks, almost all were on nf4 boards
    tried 1c.tccd SE mod bios, also a no go
    u should change the video card ..... really..
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    u should change the video card ..... really..
    ROFL..
    thanx for the advice Losphoron..
    i'll save some money for x1600pro card in future

    but i dont think my 9000p is the limitation here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyus89
    hiya,

    aah brecht, always having trouble with pc's as usual

    Ontopic: Usb 2.0, can't get this going, any one know a solution?
    I've got sp1, installed all the drivers for my mobo so..
    it keeps on usb 1.1 .

    xyus
    update everything. are you not installing SP2 for some reason?

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    I have a weird question in regards to video cards...

    When I have my Radeon 9800 Pro in the machine with the same exact BIOS settings, RAM included, I can do 255x10 ...

    If I plug my X850 XT PE in with everything still set the same, I get no display and it doesn't POST. However, lowering the FSB to 250 will get it to post with the X850 XT PE in.

    (Yes, I've changed HT Frequency to 3x to be sure..)

    .. any ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulopais
    yeap.. in my dfi expert they do 300 at 2.5-3-3-6
    well mine would only do 2 2 2 5 at 200MHz but not 2.5 2 2 5 (which is slower) so the kind OCZ folks r RMAing them for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-jump
    anyone here succesfull to run 2x1gb sticks beyond ddr500?
    i see in the ranks, almost all were on nf4 boards
    tried 1c.tccd SE mod bios, also a no go
    Ballistix Z503's @ 265 1:1 3-3-3-8 2T Rock Solid BF2 for days on end
    266 BSOD at random intervals - pretty sure it's this particular mobo's limit as other RAM with dividers will also crash at anything over 265HTT =/

    1T is a complete NO GO even below 200 =[

    This is the 3rd set of Ballistix - the previous sets went bad as others have reported - gonna try some 'other' RAM asap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xyus89
    hiya,

    aah brecht, always having trouble with pc's as usual

    Ontopic: Usb 2.0, can't get this going, any one know a solution?
    I've got sp1, installed all the drivers for my mobo so..
    it keeps on usb 1.1 .

    xyus

    I use winxp without sp , and I used the win9x drivers on the mb cdrom, and usb2.0 is working fine on my board
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    Quote Originally Posted by brechtvm
    no-one who knows a solution ?
    otherwise, i'll have to RMA this board (this weekend probably)
    i got that when i accidentally plugged my keyboard in the mouse port. i was racking my brain wondering why i wasnt booting, since the only change i had made was putting in my new X800 Pro. I put the keyboard back in the right port and it booted fine.

    I feel that i may be missing something while OCing my Neo2. here's my specs, can anyone tell me if this is about right for this setup?

    3000+ Venice E3
    2x512 g.skill 1GBLE TCCD
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    Bios 1C (modded for TCCD)

    @ 1:1 x4 HTT div
    250HTT 1.4 vCORE
    2.5-3-3-7

    @ 150 mem divider x3 HTT div
    270HTT 1.45vCORE
    2-2-2-5

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodaboy581
    I have a weird question in regards to video cards...

    When I have my Radeon 9800 Pro in the machine with the same exact BIOS settings, RAM included, I can do 255x10 ...

    If I plug my X850 XT PE in with everything still set the same, I get no display and it doesn't POST. However, lowering the FSB to 250 will get it to post with the X850 XT PE in.

    (Yes, I've changed HT Frequency to 3x to be sure..)

    .. any ideas?

    The x850xtpe uses a lot more power than the 9800pro....you could be seeing a limitation in your powersupply. I'd recommend an OCZ 520 if you can dish up the $, otherwise a highpowered single rail sparkle should do. Stay away from dual rail powersupplies if you overclock on this board, the neo2 platinum benefits from a single rail supply.) The OCZ 520W will hit about 618W before it shuts off, but for that you will be pulling about 700W from the wall. It has a 33A 12v rail so that should cover you for a while. Let me know if this helps at all, or if you already have a good powersupply...
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    Sideeffect, new 1C0 BIOS, I take it that this is the official 1C BIOS. Can you do your magic on it?

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    lets hope tictac comes up with something too
    so we can have more veriety..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sodaboy581
    I have a weird question in regards to video cards...

    When I have my Radeon 9800 Pro in the machine with the same exact BIOS settings, RAM included, I can do 255x10 ...

    If I plug my X850 XT PE in with everything still set the same, I get no display and it doesn't POST. However, lowering the FSB to 250 will get it to post with the X850 XT PE in.

    (Yes, I've changed HT Frequency to 3x to be sure..)

    .. any ideas?

    i had that problem too with my old gecube 9550XT and al you need is to increased AGP voltage from 1.5 to 1.55 or 1.60...
    Now i have an X850pro from connect3d and is booting ok..At 280 the windows is unstable..my settings are

    270x9 = 2433mhz efective from 1800mhz
    1.550v+10%
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    from ATi tray tool i put a profile that OC the vga to 560GPU and 600mhz the memory..good luck
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    Hi!

    Config:
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    leadtek 6600gt agp
    etc.

    BIOS version 1.CB sideeffect.

    My problem is, that if i set the fsb to default, also 200, the memorys will be driven at 166 Mhz. And i can not set to any other. The memory clock index value is 200 in the bios.
    If i set the fsb to 220, the rams are running at 180. Mem clock index value is still 200...

    What do i need to set, to run them at 220/220 ? Or how do i change the ratio?

    Thx.

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    Thanks for the headsup Draxx.

    Ill see whats changed if anything. I doupt Tictac will make a bios as he seems busy with his Abit stuff.
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    Now theres a 1C3 bios listed, any word on the 1C0 and 1C3??
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    I.C3 is the beta that has been out for a while. 1.C0 is the final and came out recently. I will make my mod versions tommorow. Murdok has his versions out for the bios and they have some info there about the bios. http://www.msi-forum.de/thread.php?threadid=21960

    Its in German but basically it says the bios is pretty much the same nothing new is added. They think perhaps the vcore is more stable though. So we will see.
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    Thats great Sideeffect, Get it modded!

    Can you make sure there are any extra options hidden away?
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    1.C Final Mod is out at my site. Nothing new really MSI spent a lot of time doing nothing ?

    Well seems vcore is slightly more stable than 1.C3 beta and perhaps that will allow slightly better overclocks. We will see once its been tested.
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    Excellent, I'll flash it on tomorrow
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    Excellent work sideeffect!

    Question for everyone, will the Neo2 Plat. support an Opty? Any know problems?

    Thanks.
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    Opty's work fine.
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