The LCD Buyers Guide

[STEvil]

How about a Gateway FPD2185WH??
Its 8ms 900:1 300cd/m2 and stuff.. but donno if its a 6-bit or 8-bit display

If its 8-bit I think i'm gonna get one :drool:

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...0069431&catid=

[bmac11]

hmm.. is this new?!?? Seems like an awesome deal for a widescreen!!! I might order it after the 22nd if no new deals come out on the dells. No more 20% off on the 2005FPW


ViewSonic VA1912wb Black 19" 8ms LCD Widescreen Monitor 300 cd/m2 500:1 Built in Speakers - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116373
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...ries/va1912wb/

VS needs to ditch the speakers to save a few bucks

[bmac11]

also a 20.1 VA2012wb. Not even out yet.. wonder what the price will be.. can't be that much more! http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...ries/va2012wb/

[Turok]

hmm.. is this new?!?? Seems like an awesome deal for a widescreen!!! I might order it after the 22nd if no new deals come out on the dells. No more 20% off on the 2005FPW


ViewSonic VA1912wb Black 19" 8ms LCD Widescreen Monitor 300 cd/m2 500:1 Built in Speakers - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824116373
http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...ries/va1912wb/

VS needs to ditch the speakers to save a few bucks

also a 20.1 VA2012wb. Not even out yet.. wonder what the price will be.. can't be that much more! http://www.viewsonic.com/products/d...eries/va2012wb/

hmmm...
didnt see that coming

Looks like a new Viewsonic LCD, and by the looks of the specs, this may be a VA panel.
My guess it that it's using the VP191b's P-MVA tech, but with a different aspect ratio. I hope it's the same with the VA2012wb.
If this is true, I would highly recommend the VA1912wb for gamers looking for a 19" display, since the wide aspect ratio gives 20% more viewable advantage

I would wait for reviews before buying

[bmac11]

I would wait for reviews before buying

Yea but waiting is never good on newegg... new stuff always goes oos and if they sell x per day, price automatically goes up. Still, I'm going to wait for the VA2012wb or at least its price since I want at least a 20".

Can you find a recommended price for the VA2012wb?? At least we could compare it to market price. It has better a contrast Ratio of 600:1 vs 500:1 too.

[STEvil]

bmac - I think that viewsonic (the VA2012) uses the same panel the gateway I linked does?!?!


unfortunately, still no info on any pages as to if they are 16.2 million colors or 16.7 million

[bmac11]

bmac - I think that viewsonic (the VA2012) uses the same panel the gateway I linked does?!?!

hmm.. no clue

I think I might just give it a try. Could always rma it if it ghosts.. newegg loves me! The VA2012wb has to be at least $50 more and its only one inch wider. The 19" seems like a great bargin and regardless I'm sure it will be a huge step up from my 19" dell crt.. manufacture date 1998.. lol.

17.1" horizontal x 10.7" vertical; 20.1" diagonal
16.1" horizontal x 10.0" vertical; 19.0" diagonal

[bmac11]

It'll be here Wednesday!

[brandinb]

anyone have experences with the view sonic VX924 which i notice is in the guide but the guide shows 4 ms but the website shows 3ms?????? http://www.viewsonic.com/products/de...x924/index.htm
also here is a link to buy it its only 350 dollars
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ode=12-1014611
so can anybody comment on this monitor please?

[Salahuddin]

Simply put, the Viewsonic VX924 is one of the best pure gaming LCDs on the market. It has great graphics quality and an excellent black level... amongst the best in TN panels.

The guide shows that the VX924 is rated at 4ms. However, after we posted our guide, Viewsonic changed the way they measured response time and now have it advertised at 3ms. The truth is, the 4ms and 3ms models are the exact same monitor, they just used two different ways to measure the monitor's responsiveness.

The only two monitors faster than this one for gaming is the Samsung 930BF and the 960BF, both rated at 4ms (and they are just barely more responsive than the VX924). However, I tested the 960BF out this weekend, and it actually suffers from a phenomenon that is "opposite" to afterglow... you actually get blurring in the same direction of movement due to increased voltage used to up the monitor's response time. I guess you could call it "preglow." In my reading, it appears that the 930BF suffers from the same phenomenon. For some reason, this does not appear to be a problem with the VX924 even though it uses a form of Overdrive technology similar to the Samsung LCDs. And in terms of colour quality, the VX924 is simply better than both Samsung models.

So, if you're considering the VX924 for gaming, I don't think you can go wrong. After all my testing of monitors, I just reordered one from Costco for my own use.

[STEvil]

Gateway FPD2185W has landed.

1680x1050 of 8-bit 8ms kickass LCD.


ps - it works best with clear type disabled

EDIT

Its a P-MVA panel btw. Doesnt seem to ghost, but I was a bit busy gaming too..

edit

Trying to figure out how to run 1440x900.. and where to get drivers for this thing since they dont seem to be on the EZTune cd... or the gateway website

[Delirious]

sounds pretty nice, any screen shots for us to drool over?

[STEvil]

flatout isnt the best for screenshots and my 9700pro isnt the greatest, but here's one.. a compressed jpg...


yes, I did make the jump

edit

Addeed GTA:SA pic.. wasnt so fortunate in this one, fell off the edge while trying to get a panoramic view off the top of the big mountain


Love the tow-truck.

EDIT

added FarCry and UT2K4 1680x1050 pics as well.

[bmac11]

Nice monitor STEvil! Looks great! Those are a pretty good deal at the price!


My VA1912wb will be here any hour! Can't wait I'm not even going to class I've never once had a decent monitor.



Anyone have any feedback on LCD TVs used for everything??? Gaming, TV, high def xbox360 I'm looking at just getting a ViewSonic N2750w Black 27" 8ms LCD TV Monitor. Damn good bargin if plays games well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16889107001

[[XC] leviathan18]

i saw an xbox 360 in a dell fpw 2405 and it looked amazing really

[bmac11]

i saw an xbox 360 in a dell fpw 2405 and it looked amazing really

link link

[bmac11]

Is the technology behind different lcds the same? pc vs tv. I just assume that ones that have inputs for tvs are different vs ones only used for pc. Is it just that they have the extra inputs for everything else? Anyone care to fill me in?

[STEvil]

i've yet to see an LCD TV with enough quality i'd consider buying it.... that and they are usually more expensive than a good LCD monitor.

edit

added more pics to previous post: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...92#post1149692

[beta67]

ViewSonic VP191b
View Sonic VP930b
ViewSonic VX924

I can't decide betweent these. I want a monitor that won't ghost or blur on high demand games, or dvds. I watch alot of movies on comp. I don't do professional editing or anything like that but I want a lcd that will hold up for more than 2 years and go with technology. I read that the VP930b has a bad X lighting problem and I read that the VP191b doesn't play video's good at all. Anyone have personal experience? Any suggesitions or comparatives. Thanks alot in advance.

[bmac11]

Got the lcd running now.. its pretty sweet! Best thing I've bought in awhile. 16:10 is simply amazing!! No time for games tonight

I only have one concern.. It seems like it is much brighter in the bottom part of the screen than the top. Is this a common problem of LCDs? I don't know if its just the angle I have it at or not, but it looks better if I have the top tilted more forward to me.. but then it not straight and you can tell when using it that its angled funny.

Maybe its just that I've never spent much time behind a LCD besides on friend's laptops.


:: is this all I need to test for dead pixels?
http://www.laptopshowcase.co.uk/downloads.php?id=1

[brandinb]

Simply put, the Viewsonic VX924 is one of the best pure gaming LCDs on the market. It has great graphics quality and an excellent black level... amongst the best in TN panels.

The guide shows that the VX924 is rated at 4ms. However, after we posted our guide, Viewsonic changed the way they measured response time and now have it advertised at 3ms. The truth is, the 4ms and 3ms models are the exact same monitor, they just used two different ways to measure the monitor's responsiveness.

The only two monitors faster than this one for gaming is the Samsung 930BF and the 960BF, both rated at 4ms (and they are just barely more responsive than the VX924). However, I tested the 960BF out this weekend, and it actually suffers from a phenomenon that is "opposite" to afterglow... you actually get blurring in the same direction of movement due to increased voltage used to up the monitor's response time. I guess you could call it "preglow." In my reading, it appears that the 930BF suffers from the same phenomenon. For some reason, this does not appear to be a problem with the VX924 even though it uses a form of Overdrive technology similar to the Samsung LCDs. And in terms of colour quality, the VX924 is simply better than both Samsung models.

So, if you're considering the VX924 for gaming, I don't think you can go wrong. After all my testing of monitors, I just reordered one from Costco for my own use.

wow thanks for the info!!!!

how much did you get that monitor from costco???
cheapest ive found it is 350 from zzf

[bmac11]

It must of just been the angle I was using it.. and I adjusted the settings on monitor to a relatively decent setting. Then used the setting from my video card to fine-tune. Adding just the slightest amount of Digital Vibrance from the Nvidia settings really made it stand out. This thing is sick!!! Now for some gaming

If anyone is looking for one, better jump on it soon.. I've been watching newegg's price on it and it has been everywhere. Now at 309.99 + 14.99 shipped. ::edit: back down to 299.99. 5th price change in 2 days.

[[XC] leviathan18]

link link

ygpm with the link forgot to tell ya

[STEvil]

beta67 - read the first post in this thread.

[Salahuddin]

ViewSonic VP191b
View Sonic VP930b
ViewSonic VX924

I can't decide betweent these. I want a monitor that won't ghost or blur on high demand games, or dvds. I watch alot of movies on comp. I don't do professional editing or anything like that but I want a lcd that will hold up for more than 2 years and go with technology. I read that the VP930b has a bad X lighting problem and I read that the VP191b doesn't play video's good at all. Anyone have personal experience? Any suggesitions or comparatives. Thanks alot in advance.

Well, of these three monitors, I have only personally used the VX924 (although I've also had experience with the VP171B). From what I understand, you will definitely get more blurring on the VP191B and VP930B than on the VX924 as the latter is a TN panel with Overdrive technology. However, outside of gaming, the VP191B and the VP930B should be much better monitors in terms of colour reproduction and image quality. I've never heard that the video was bad on the VP191B... but, I would think video would be worse on the VX924. That being said, if you're the only one watching movies on your LCD, the VX924 should be adequate... the MVA panels in the VP191B and VP930B should shine in terms of viewing angles and picture quality, however.

As for direct comparisons between the VP191B and VP930B, I couldn't comment.

wow thanks for the info!!!!

how much did you get that monitor from costco???
cheapest ive found it is 350 from zzf

No problem brandinb

Keep in mind that I'm in Canada and prices here for all computer parts, including LCD monitors, are significantly more expensive than in the US. I purchased mine from Costco.ca for $499.99 CAN. The best thing about ordering from Costco is the implied "lifetime warranty." I once bought a CRT monitor from Costco and used it for SEVEN YEARS... I brought it back to see if they would give me anything for it and they gave me a FULL REFUND without asking me a question. I'd pay an extra few bucks any day to have that type of support.