AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

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actually he's been benching with the 480 now:

http://translate.google.com/translat...768017-27.html

That's nice but he's comparing it in synthetics still. I'm saying real games

None the less, AMD has lost a vary valuable marketing tool. If AMD cards become a nonfactor on HWbot, then alot of people won't buy them(benchers).

I benched just as much as I gamed before so it is a real significant factor for me.

I don' think it's doom and gloom if they are priced right then it can be a decent product. It's just this being xtremesystems, people expectations for this card were sky high, when they don't come off as close to matching expectations. The dreams of 30-40% faster than a gtx 580 are gone and all that is being left is a sobering reality. It doesn't have to be bad if we control our expectations before hand. My prior performance expectations were realistic compared to most people on this board, I got caught in the hype a bit. But I still feel this card can be a good card if priced right.

If this card is priced at around 400 dollars, we can thank the gtx 570 and 580. Maybe spurs will get to stay on this board too, but because the 6970 performed well below expectations .

Yes, a lot of people bench equal if not more than they game, but that's where unrealistic expectations come in - a 1920 SP card would absolutely kill performance wise, but a 1536 SP card means that for benching, where raw SP counts do matter, it's not going to provide as big a boost over Cypress - whereas for games, it can matter more

But I think the entire "zomg Cayman = fail because it is lower in 3dMark Vantage" is ridiculous - what if it sucks in 3dMark but is comparable to the 580 in gaming?

We're only getting 3dMark benching which isn't giving us anything about gaming

And yes, HWBot is big, but again... for gamers, how many follow it based off that? They're going to see the benches for teh games they care about. If enthusiasts are a small enough niche, then the hardcore benching crowd is even smaller. I don't think that hurts AMD as much as you think - indeed, look at how many people ridicule Fermi for being a benching queen w/r/t Heaven