Bulldozer Die Shot!

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Did Bobcat turned quite high power compared to Atom ? Yes it did.

That depends, when you take into account Atom performance, and whole platform power consumption, then no.
Bobcat will have higher performance per watt than atom.
And realistically, very low power atoms arent used anywhere,or almost anywhere.And AMD isnt competing with that almost non existing segment.
I mean really, what would you rather buy, Dual core pinetrail (still iunreleased i think) Atom 8.5W netbook ,or 9W Bobcat ontario one ?

All could very well be true. If you're proven right, you were objective and I was a day dreamer. But if I'm proven right, will you respond in kind ?

I dont really believe it will be that bad (although bclk limitation looks serious, all hope in mainboard vendors).Im just trying to get to you the fact that taking worst case scenarios isnt objective.

Youre telling about higher power draw than a low end atoms (you dont pick the ones with comparable TDP yet worse performance).Thats not objective.It looks like AMD has one die ,and theyre making what they can with it, at this moment it looks like nettop/netbook/tablet segment.And thats where the fight is.Not in the smartphone one, where ARM has pretty much all the market share, and it wont change in the near future ,be it with intel or amd chips.

AMD lady said it ""Llano will start shipping in the first half or 2011, and products should be available in summer 2011," said Leslie Sobon, vice president of worldwide product marketing at AMD, in an interview with Inside Hardware web-site. "

If thats true, than its a 6 month slip, thats bad.Would be better tho if there was some official document about that tho.
By products he can mean whole notebook lineup too, chips itself can come sooner.