Quote Originally Posted by ryboto View Post
I don't know, there were a few users who were obsessing on the negatives, and to me that appeared less conductive to discussion, and more to rile up other users. The new CPUs performed at a predictable level, they didn't get spanked, or owned any more than they should have. Some people also seem to be disregarding reviewers conclusions, where they are typically positive about a return to competitiveness for AMD.

Some folks are just focussing on the negative, and some have gotten a bit to excited about some positive results. Both parties seem to be quick to justify, or prove the other wrong, it's not everyone, but certain users. I just mean to say you can't only blame those loyal to one side, both are accountable for the deterioration of the discussion.
Phenom 2 doesn't suck. QFT, it performed about as expected. The problem is that some of us expected this to happen and were flamed for trying to downplay Phenom2 before it launches. We didn't have any problems like that when Conroe was upgraded. Folks learned nothing from being wrong about Barcelona as well. Back in the day I didn't think X2 would kick as much booty and said so. When it came out and rocked Intel's world, I started a whole danged I blew it thread I was happy it kicked butt but was sad I couldn't afford it.

I think non-Geeks will look at this whole current war as much to do about nothing and more Geeks nit-picking or obsessing over nothing. Many think Geeks are the ones who don't get it. They see much of what WE'RE agreeing and disagreeing over as obsessive compulsive or something far more insidious. I thought Phenom was soundly beaten, but NOT pwned.

I'll say it til I'm blue, I was hoping for a better showing from AMD. Saying AMD didn't do so well shouldn't be seen or read as AMD sucks type hate mongering.

Proved wrong? Many said Phenom 2 would be faster the benchmarks have spoken. Folks calling them out in a thread about benchmark results shouldn't have others calling for Censorship and only allowing Propaganda.