MAS: *even* disconsidering the fact that this topic seems to be a bit more "server" than "desktop": I still think no one can say a word for sure about Phenom. Even for XS users.

I mean it not because of price or stock performance. But with a stock performance comparable do intels clock-per-clock, here at XS people would still be interested in how well that thing will OC. And, for dear Lord, absolutelly nobody knows it now. All options are still opended, and it can OC as well as, worst OR better.

Well, maybe there exists a few people around the world who should be able to say, but are prohibited for NDAs, but that's another point.