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Thread: The OFFICIAL MSI K8N Neo2-939 tips and tricks guide thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    I have a pair of DC KHX3200 BH-5 2x512...
    i assume you are using a booster right?
    can you remember the BIOS it comes with?I will run a winnie on it and im in no mood to hot flash it :-(

    /me is happy
    Booster at RMA atm. Only hitting 215 MHz without, but believe me, compared to 205 MHz max completely unstable, I can see that the BH5's are behaving like BH5's again.

    RE: shipping bios. The new one shipped with 1.3, you should be fine with that.

    edit to add: uh, yeah, the BH-5's are behaving. 215MHz is the max I can get them stable, regardless of voltage. Put a lot of bananas here.
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    Thanks mikead_99
    if this is your first night in xtremesystems,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikead_99
    I actually just replaced a 0420 Korea board with a 0442 Korea. (even "fresher" silicon!) Haven't put it under the Mach yet, but I can tell you my BH5 over 205MHz problem is gone, so that is a good sign.

    edit to add: Purchased the board with the newer NF3 chipset from Newegg last week, after they restocked.
    is there a way to find out the info about my chipset without taking off the NB Fan
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    Quote Originally Posted by aonic
    is there a way to find out the info about my chipset without taking off the NB Fan
    Nope!
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    Darn, my case blows.. taking out the mobo and puttin everything back with the zipties would take 2 hours.. i guess ill just stay with my mobo..

    ive been able to boot @ 319 HTT does this mean im most likely a Korea chipset?
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    Don't think so! Can bench here without any probs @ 320HTT with an NB
    produced 0411A2 Taiwan!
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    wow thats pretty nice.. so whats so great about the Korea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aonic
    wow thats pretty nice.. so whats so great about the Korea?
    It is said that NB from Korea (0418+ steppings) can run higher, i don't take that as a fact but as a higher possibility for the motherboard to run at high FSB. Ofcource there are some other things to consider, like the on-die controller or the RAM itself ...Thats why GravediggA is able to run that high

    AGAIN i think that all these (steppings and counties) is JUST statistics
    it doesn't mean that is impossible for a NB from taiwan to run high and vise versa...
    Last edited by esdee; 11-16-2004 at 11:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GravediggA
    Don't think so! Can bench here without any probs @ 320HTT with an NB
    produced 0411A2 Taiwan!
    yes, but the problem isn't running high HTT but running high 1:1

    i mean, with sticks which are approved to run single with >300MHz

    (i told already at P3D, you know might )

    ----- AMD K6-2 300 "Chomper" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// 300 MHz @ 2,200 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon XP 1700+ "Thouroghbred B" JIUHB 0306 MPMW /// 2400 MHz @ 1,900 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon XP-M 2500+ "Barton" AQXEA 0327 UPMW /// 2450 MHz @ 1,850 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon XP-M 2600+ "Barton" IQYHA 0401 XPMW /// 2500 MHz @ 1,750 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon 64 3000+ "Newcastle CG" xxxxx 0418 WPMW /// 2600 MHz @ 1,600 V -----
    ----- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ "Winchester D0" xxxxx 0433 SPMW /// 2750 MHz @ 1,616 V -----

    ----- AMD Phenom II X2 555 BE "Callisto" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// 4080MHz @ 1,375 V -----
    ----- AMD Ryzen "Zen" xxxxx xxxx xxxx /// TBA @ TBA -----

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    Anyway, i don't think u are 100% sure to do higher 1:1 with an Korea
    NB! Only one who say that was Onepagebook, and he is not the allmighty!
    What is with all the others, who can run ~ 300 MHz 1:1 with theirs Neo2s?
    Dont think all of them have an NB newer then 0418 Korea.
    Last edited by funkflix; 11-17-2004 at 04:59 AM.
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    Seen all the info i can stomach on this board and have had so many issues it's not even funny but i FINALLY have them all worked out except for the cold boot issue which should be fixed with the new beta bios that's out.
    My particular board will not boot an agp card if it's pushed all the way into the agp socket. I have to ever so slightly pull the card up just a fraction for it to boot and i've tried 3 diff agp cards all doing the same thing. I've also experienced random reboots for no reason and finally found out that running dimm slots 3&4 ,instead of the 1&2, like all the faqs say has cured that problem with both sets of my bh-5. System is totally stable for a change. I was also having an issue with setting up 2 250gig hd's on IDE 1 (1 master/ 1 slave). Every time i would access the slave and run/open a file the system would reboot. I finally just moved it over to IDE2 with my dvd burner and said to hell with it

    Anyway, i thought i'd share some issues and a few resolutions from my experiences with this board.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PnoT
    Seen all the info i can stomach on this board and have had so many issues it's not even funny but i FINALLY have them all worked out except for the cold boot issue which should be fixed with the new beta bios that's out.
    My particular board will not boot an agp card if it's pushed all the way into the agp socket. I have to ever so slightly pull the card up just a fraction for it to boot and i've tried 3 diff agp cards all doing the same thing. I've also experienced random reboots for no reason and finally found out that running dimm slots 3&4 ,instead of the 1&2, like all the faqs say has cured that problem with both sets of my bh-5. System is totally stable for a change. I was also having an issue with setting up 2 250gig hd's on IDE 1 (1 master/ 1 slave). Every time i would access the slave and run/open a file the system would reboot. I finally just moved it over to IDE2 with my dvd burner and said to hell with it

    Anyway, i thought i'd share some issues and a few resolutions from my experiences with this board.


    What BIOS are you using ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    What BIOS are you using ?
    Your Prommie works fine with the winchester too?
    I'm using 1.36b but i've seen 3 people on here state that the 1.41 bios does indeed fix the cold boot issue. I'm going to seal mine back up tomorrow night and give it one last shot and i'll report back here on my own results. It's taken me 3 weeks to get this board solid and if my mach will run on it i'll be one happy camper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PnoT
    I'm using 1.36b but i've seen 3 people on here state that the 1.41 bios does indeed fix the cold boot issue. I'm going to seal mine back up tomorrow night and give it one last shot and i'll report back here on my own results. It's taken me 3 weeks to get this board solid and if my mach will run on it i'll be one happy camper.


    I wish you luck , may the force be with you!


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    Last edited by esdee; 11-17-2004 at 06:27 AM.
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    When i tell CoreCenter to run 1.85vcore it only gives my 1.74.. but I notice when i do this my +12v goes to 11.50.. is my PSU holding back my vcore?
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    Well even if i dont o/c my +12V rail is 11.91 according to the bios!
    Im using Tt 560W PSU and the +12V is only 28A, so this might be holding back my o/c.

    Well i was having all sort of problems with XL Pros cant do past 210HTT 1:1 stable. I can past memtest at 250Mhz 2.5-3-3-7 1T timings though, so i was really confused. This was happeing with 2 cpus, 3500+ Newcastle and 3200+ Winchester. 2 different Neo2s.
    So i just picked some 3700 EBs, ill see if i can o/c 1:1 now, i know the EBs are capable of doing 240Mhz 3-2-2-6 1T timings and this is the first settings im going to run. If im still having problems than the only thing standing in the way is the PSU.

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    good luck..

    problem:
    when i try to run Western Digital's LifeGaurd tool to erase my HD.. the program freezes @ "Virtual Disk Drive" part.. what should I do?
    this is also a case with may other tools like Boot and NUKE it freezes while its loadin the linux images
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    I have a NEO2 that says 0440A2 on the Chipset, but it's a Taiwan. No good? or anything after 0418 is good overclocker regardless Taiwan or Korea? Anyone know?
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    it doesnt matter what it is. just see if it OC's good
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    I hooked up the Northbridge fan on my Fan Controller and dropped the RPMs. Added a huge glob of heatsink compund. All is nice and and stable. I hate fan noise. I am running an Aquirius 2 water cooler on the CPU and 9800. This little water cooler works really well on this rig. I even crank the rpm's down on the radiator fan. Ahhhhhh quite. Only noise I hear are my hard drives. All is stable and quite.

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    Quiet systems aren't very Xtreme lol
    I want it as loud @ possible when benching
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    I've made an little Overclockingguide for MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum. There are
    so many questions about it (not only at this forum), that i thought it's an good
    idea.

    Here ist the link (right klick and download/ use WordPad or something to open it): http://people.freenet.de/funkflix/ocgk8n.txt

    It's not very good, but i think some "newbie" should help this a bit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by esdee
    It is said that NB from Korea (0418+ steppings) can run higher, i don't take that as a fact but as a higher possibility for the motherboard to run at high FSB. Ofcource there are some other things to consider, like the on-die controller or the RAM itself ...Thats why GravediggA is able to run that high
    I have a 0410 NB and it's complete sh*t. It needed to be voltmodded to pass 260Mhz and reached 290Mhz at 1.85v. Then it craps out again (on 1T at least).

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    maybe its your ram?
    try settin your ram speed lower
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    Excuse me guys, just bought an MSI NEO2 mobo, can't do more than 220fsb's with bios 1.30 (original), i've downloaded the modded bioses but i don't know how to install them through windows, is there a way ? if yes please tell me how.
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