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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    by few sites, measured gpu from leaked Picture is aroun 420mm2, by the few days old interview, it is too around 420mm2
    Seems like a lot of people are measuring it quite a bit larger than that, like this guy on the AT forums.

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    it is wrong comparision photo, try this one:
    http://cdn.videocardz.com/images/201...CB-Picture.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    it is wrong comparision photo, try this one:
    http://cdn.videocardz.com/images/201...CB-Picture.png
    The Tahiti board is closer to the camera in that shot. I compared the size of the memory chips on both boards twice to be safe and Tahiti's were larger both times. Your comparison photo is flawed.

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    Does it look like the core is still resessed i cant tell?
    I really hate that and would hope that its flat on these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    PS. it seem all my info here was true, my source was great this time, 512-bus, 2560-2816 SPs for gaming SKU, Titans performance
    You were bouncing all over the place... even within this last week you were not very well informed.

    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    LordEC911 - blah blah, it is absolute nonsense. On 28nm is impossible to make a bigger chip then Tahiti. it would not be cost-effective
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    no new VGAs on E3, no new Radeons before end of this year!
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    whats ive heard, will be launched sooner then october and highest one-gpu model beats Titan
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    ok, it can be maximaly 2560 SPs, 40 ROPs, same number of TEX units. Same memory capacity, bus, clocks maybe
    with the same GPU clock as HD 7970 GHz, it can be +20-25 percents performance above Radeon HD 7970 GHz in best case
    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    Hawaii die has +/- 440 mm, with 40CU blocks, 384-bit mem, 6GB mems and IT IS made on 28nm node.
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    no new leaks? Ok, i can start ...

    Hawaii:
    Node: 28nm
    GPU size around 470-480 mm2
    DP Ratio 1:2
    TDP higher then 250W for highest SKU
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    .. to be continued
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    Yes, in first gaming SKU "D9" will be only 384-bit mem controller.
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    few pages back is my info about 470-480 mm2 of hawaii chip
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    it is bull, if its Hawaii die size = GK110 - 30 percents, has the same die size like Tahiti, no more SPs, no more ROPs, it cant be true
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    i wish because with that die size cannot compete with GTX 780 or Titan
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    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowie View Post
    Does it look like the core is still resessed i cant tell?
    I really hate that and would hope that its flat on these.
    Cant tell on this photo. But there's more place and not the angle corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordEC911 View Post
    You were bouncing all over the place... even within this last week you were not very well informed.
    Nice summary there. I must say "owned"

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    At first glance, I think it's a good card but I am not interested at all because i have the new Monster HD 7990 in my case
    But I think the price is high? right.

    HD 7970 GHz Edition= $500
    R9 290X= $650
    WOOOOOF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
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    I think we've seen these results before but thank you Olivon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal View Post
    At first glance, I think it's a good card but I am not interested at all because i have the new Monster HD 7990 in my case
    But I think the price is high? right.

    HD 7970 GHz Edition= $500
    R9 290X= $650
    A bit early for discuss the price... i have see some speaking about 599$ ( launch price ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal View Post
    I think we've seen these results before but thank you Olivon
    Original link is down

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    A bit early for discuss the price... i have see some speaking about 599$ ( launch price ).
    But the latest information according to videocardz
    One other thing. The fastest Radeon R9 290X might cost $650 USD, that’s the latest information on the price.
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    WOOOOOF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olivon View Post
    Original link is down
    Aha Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal View Post
    But the latest information according to videocardz


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    Follow the link of Olivon ....

    I dont know the price myself... so i cant say it is one or the other.. just saying price differ depending the source.
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    LordEX91 - i have better ones to you:

    no, Hawaii is still on 28nm, but more SPs and higher clocks will reach Titans performance level (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5201760)

    ahh, see. OK, it can be specs of "Pro" version maybe, successor of HD 7950.Because i thought full chip is only for Professional graphics. Full hp has 44 CUs, but who knows if will be in gaming SKU? (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5203199)

    and some members here can prove, i have 2816/176/512-bit info from august - thru the PM debates, but who cares ... your are better:

    ~440-480mm2 and roughly the same clocks, maybe a bit lower, should be enough and many, many more nonsense from you here, as always and in all threads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    ~440-480mm2 and roughly the same clocks, maybe a bit lower, should be enough and many, many more nonsense from you here, as always and in all threads.
    Nonsense? How so?
    Is it not accurate?

    Only one to say that AMD was releasing a new GPU this year after the Feb interview (Q/A) and that Kaveri will show this year after all those delay rumors.
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    Every genocide that was committed during the 20th century has been preceded by the disarmament of the target population. Once the government outlaws your guns your life becomes a luxury afforded to you by the state. You become a tool to benefit the state. Should you cease to benefit the state or even worse become an annoyance or even a hindrance to the state then your life becomes more trouble than it is worth.

    Once the government outlaws your guns your life is forfeit. You're already dead, it's just a question of when they are going to get around to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    LordEX91 - i have better ones to you:

    no, Hawaii is still on 28nm, but more SPs and higher clocks will reach Titans performance level (http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5201760)
    Saw my post in that link mentioning they should be able to eek out ~30% more performance at roughly the same power. I thought the die would be bigger though, 420mm for those specs seems small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal View Post
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    No way these bandwidth numbers are correct for Hawaii. Should be higher...

    And I am guessing this TDP is for 800Mhz core clock. I really wish both companies stopped this boosting nonsense. Marketing...

    Also, it's sad to see that $650 USD is the new norm. Remember 5870 was sold for 399? 4870 was sold for 299...

    Quote Originally Posted by PedantOne View Post
    and some members here can prove, i have 2816/176/512-bit info from august - thru the PM debates, but who cares ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal View Post
    But the latest information according to videocardz

    It says it might cost $650, that chart has ~ and ? on it, what makes you think the number after the $ symbol is any more accurate?

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    No way these bandwidth numbers are correct for Hawaii. Should be higher...
    maybe will be 320 GB/s??

    And I am guessing this TDP is for 800Mhz core clock. I really wish both companies stopped this boosting nonsense. Marketing...
    I agree with you

    Also, it's sad to see that $650 USD is the new norm. Remember 5870 was sold for 399? 4870 was sold for 299...
    probably in the near future we will see a Graphics card (single-GPU) cost you $800-1000$
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iconyu View Post
    It says it might cost $650, that chart has ~ and ? on it, what makes you think the number after the $ symbol is any more accurate?
    I believe they have take the 780 price and transfer it.. and there's a good reason, from a market perspective, if its faster, AMD could have think they can adapt their price to the market .
    Now, the 780 and 770 have not really sold well, and AMD could have a sweet spot price around 600$, in reality, its most likely 599 $ .. a nice sweet psychological spot..
    Then they could decrease the price to 550$ and certainly still got decent margin.

    The second thing is AIB will come with their own models really quick after this release ( mid october for what i have heard here and there, maybe some even faster ), so dont charge to much on reference cards, the non reference cards will not hit the 700$ line .. ( 599$ reference cards.. 629 to 659$ for non reference ).

    The third thing is Nvidia could react pretty fast and decrease the 780 price.
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    It says it might cost $650, that chart has ~ and ? on it, what makes you think the number after the $ symbol is any more accurate?
    and what makes you think the number after the $ symbol inaccurate?
    WOOOOOF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal View Post
    and what makes you think the number after the $ symbol inaccurate?
    The word 'might' in your quote...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanek View Post
    The third thing is Nvidia could react pretty fast and decrease the 780 price.
    I think it will work the same way as with 7970 / GTX 680. Nvidia will drop prices following AMD's new release, just like AMD dropped price of 7970 when GTX 680 came out. Hopefully!
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