Working app_info files

[0ne.shot]

I was wondering why my rigs ran dry of WUs, then I found out about the new HCC version. Thanks guys for all the help!

[Movieman]

I was wondering why my rigs ran dry of WUs, then I found out about the new HCC version. Thanks guys for all the help!

I have app 50 656's and then another 50+ 705's in the que..and only a measly Saffire 5870 to work all these sum biatches..

[0ne.shot]

I have app 50 656's and then another 50+ 705's in the que..and only a measly Saffire 5870 to work all these sum biatches..

You mean you didn't receive all of those 7970s to fill the empty PCIe slots on The Beast yet?

[Movieman]

You mean you didn't receive all of those 7970s to fill the empty PCIe slots on The Beast yet?

Looks around, sees nothing...shrugs..Nope!

[supercoolin]

Thank You guys for keeping all of us up to date. The minute I have any issues, I can just log onto this forum, look at a couple of threads and whammo, there is the solution. You guys are the best!!!!

[OldChap]

No HFCC, HCMD, DSFL so far but the rest of the apps for app_info are moved to the first post (coloured)

Please, if you see any others, post 'em here

[jeanguy2]

Thank you OldChap...

Excellent gathering in a single location of a diversified choice of app_info files.

U're the man.....

[nanoprobe]

Is anyone here using an app_info with XP 32 bit to run multiple HCC GPU tasks? Mine is not cooperating.

[haschioz]

if you are using one cpu+gpu did you change the project name "wcgrid_gfam_vina_6.12_windows_x86_64" and the platform "windows_x86_64" to the equivalent (i dont know if the project would automatically dl 32bit wus)

[nanoprobe]

if you are using one cpu+gpu did you change the project name "wcgrid_gfam_vina_6.12_windows_x86_64" and the platform "windows_x86_64" to the equivalent (i dont know if the project would automatically dl 32bit wus)

Only running GPU tasks.

[haschioz]

they might have switched gpu to 64bit only, but idk. sorry

[nanoprobe]

they might have switched gpu to 64bit only, but idk. sorry

It runs a single task fine so I don't think that is the problem. It's probably a driver issue since there is no OpenCl support for XP above driver 12.1 but I was hoping maybe someone had figured out a way to make it work.

[StitchExperimen]

Hi, I just got done reading all 8 pages of the thread and I started with 2 aspirin and now have a bigger headache cause I don't read very well the script syntax I use to do more hardware 7 years ago and am getting back in at the enthusiast level and would like to help out on the WCG cancer project and I could use your help.
I have the parts on order except for the processor and I'll get that in a week.
The build is Gigabyte 7950s two of them at present
The platform is Intel Socket 2011 a 4-way CrossFireX capable motherboard.
Now at first I didn't know how fast a wu could be processed so I figured I'd need multiple 7950 but someone pointed out a wu took 15 seconds on a single 7950. (I think this was on the old wu).
Then yesterday someone referred to this forum and that cores were more important so I canceled my order of a i7 3820 4/8 and that a i7 3930 6/12 was a better choice.
So what is your opinion on the cpu get the 12 threads and one less graphic card 3 instead of 4 or is 2 overkill as it is? Also how many wu past 12 can be done at one time?
Then can you help me out with the script, does it need to be different for CrossFireX and TriFireX?
Which build do I need to get from Berkley and what is the web address?
Thanks for your experience and help.
Bruce

[jeanguy2]

Bruce,

If you can afford it get the i7 3930 CPU with a good 2011 motherboard, some top of the line RAM sticks and at least 2 X 7950 or two 7970 cards.

This will likely allow you to run 10 to 12 thread WCG hcc v7.05 WUs per card for a total of 20 to 24 WUs concurrently for the rig. Your production will be outstanding. The most prolific cruncher on the Xtreme cruncher team, Stoneageman, uses such a rig with the app_info onboard.

Thermalright Silver arrow SB_E HSF
i7 3930K CPU
MSI BigBang Xpower II, Intel X79 MB
2 X (3 gig MSI Radeon 7970)
8gig (2x4) Corsair Vengance
Silverstone Strider 1500 W PSU

He is presently running 12 HCC GPU WUs per card in that mentioned rig using app-info file with a count of 0.083 and and nCPU of 0.49.

The system appears costly at first but you will get a small footprint rig that will likely produce like 2 other rigs running on a CPU with less cores/threads avail.

FYI,

Happy shopping,
Jean-Guy

[nanoprobe]

Hi, I just got done reading all 8 pages of the thread and I started with 2 aspirin and now have a bigger headache cause I don't read very well the script syntax I use to do more hardware 7 years ago and am getting back in at the enthusiast level and would like to help out on the WCG cancer project and I could use your help.
I have the parts on order except for the processor and I'll get that in a week.
The build is Gigabyte 7950s two of them at present
The platform is Intel Socket 2011 a 4-way CrossFireX capable motherboard.
Now at first I didn't know how fast a wu could be processed so I figured I'd need multiple 7950 but someone pointed out a wu took 15 seconds on a single 7950. (I think this was on the old wu).
Then yesterday someone referred to this forum and that cores were more important so I canceled my order of a i7 3820 4/8 and that a i7 3930 6/12 was a better choice.
So what is your opinion on the cpu get the 12 threads and one less graphic card 3 instead of 4 or is 2 overkill as it is? Also how many wu past 12 can be done at one time?
Then can you help me out with the script, does it need to be different for CrossFireX and TriFireX?
Which build do I need to get from Berkley and what is the web address?
Thanks for your experience and help.
Bruce

I can't answer all of your questions so I'll do what I can
Here is the latest version of BOINC that I would recommend. There is a newer version but I have not tried it. Maybe others who have can chime in.
As for the CPU, the i7-33930 6/12 is the better choice. How many tasks you can run simultaneously is pretty much a trial and error thing. Since I don't run multiple GPUs on one mobo there are others here more qualified to give you advice on that.
As for video cards, twin 7970s might be a better way to go than tri or quad 7950s. That's JMHO. Whatever you chose do not run them in crossfire mode. If you game and use CF then just disable it for GPU crunching.
Drivers are a big part of the equation also. The 12.11beta4 ATI drivers seem to be working the best for now but they are always being updated so you need to keep up with that.
What PSU are you planning to use? That is one area you don't want to skimp on. Whatever you chose I would recommend something in the area of 1000/1200 watts+ 80 gold certified. Most PSUs run with the best efficiency at 50-55% of rated power so do your homework.
When you get it all together and running it should be a monster. Good luck and I hope this will help you get started.

[Sparky]

Anyone else notice that they went back to 6.56 again? My queue ended up empty again today. Also, whatever they did to them made them run a lot slower it seems and I have horrible display lag running 8 again which I haven't for a long time

*edit* nevermind what I said about the longer process times. Seems it didn't initialize properly the first time. However it still is 6.56 units and I got some 7.05 again. Weird. I modded my app_info to include both versions. Hopefully it doesn't try to do 8x 6.56 and 8x 7.05 units, that could be bad lol.

[pirogue]

Anyone else notice that they went back to 6.56 again? My queue ended up empty again today. Also, whatever they did to them made them run a lot slower it seems and I have horrible display lag running 8 again which I haven't for a long time

*edit* nevermind what I said about the longer process times. Seems it didn't initialize properly the first time. However it still is 6.56 units and I got some 7.05 again. Weird. I modded my app_info to include both versions. Hopefully it doesn't try to do 8x 6.56 and 8x 7.05 units, that could be bad lol.

Are you actually able to get and run both 6.56 GPU and 7.05 GPU using an app_info?

I spent a bunch of time trying and it doesn't seem possible since the <app_name> needs to be hcc1 for both of them. From what I can tell, BOINC only uses the last one in the file.

[Sparky]

Yeah. I had a bunch of 6.56 get downloaded, so it ran those, then when those were done it kept going with the 7.05 units now in the queue. So far 8 units at a time as well, regardless of version.

I have only one <app> section at the very top for hcc1, then after that it has 4 instead of 2 <file_info> sections. The first pair for 7.05, second pair for 6.56. Then two <app_version> parts. Again, first is for 7.05, second for 6.56.

<app_info>
   <app>
      <name>hcc1</name>
      <user_friendly_name>Help Conquer Cancer</user_friendly_name>
   </app>

   <file_info>
      <name>wcg_hcc1_img_7.05_windows_intelx86__ati_hcc1</name>
      <executable/>
   </file_info>

   <file_info>
      <name>wcg_hcc1_img_6.56_windows_intelx86__ati_hcc1</name>
      <executable/>
   </file_info>

   <file_info>
      <name>hcckernel.cl.7.05</name>
      <executable/>
   </file_info>

   <file_info>
      <name>hcckernel.cl.6.56</name>
      <executable/>
   </file_info>

   <app_version>
      <app_name>hcc1</app_name>
      <version_num>705</version_num>
      <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
      <plan_class>ati_hcc1</plan_class>
      <avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
      <max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
      <coproc>
         <type>ATI</type>
         <count>.125</count>
      </coproc>
      <file_ref>
          <file_name>wcg_hcc1_img_7.05_windows_intelx86__ati_hcc1</file_name>
          <main_program/>
      </file_ref>
      <file_ref>
         <file_name>hcckernel.cl.7.05</file_name>
         <open_name>hcckernel.cl</open_name>
      </file_ref>
   </app_version>

   <app_version>
      <app_name>hcc1</app_name>
      <version_num>656</version_num>
      <platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
      <plan_class>ati_hcc1</plan_class>
      <avg_ncpus>1.0</avg_ncpus>
      <max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
      <coproc>
         <type>ATI</type>
         <count>.125</count>
      </coproc>
      <file_ref>
          <file_name>wcg_hcc1_img_6.56_windows_intelx86__ati_hcc1</file_name>
          <main_program/>
      </file_ref>
      <file_ref>
         <file_name>hcckernel.cl.6.56</file_name>
         <open_name>hcckernel.cl</open_name>
      </file_ref>
   </app_version>


</app_info>

*edit* I just bumped my 7950 from 900MHz to 1GHz. We'll see how it does. I've seen a lot of positive reports from people running theirs at that speed, and mine is also watercooled so temps are a non-issue as well. I'd love to break into 800,000 per day

[bluestang]

I took the 6.56 out of mine the other day. Hope that wasn't a mistake.

[my87csx481]

I'm now getting "project temporarily shut down for maintenance" in my event log.

[jeanguy2]

I was down to my last 8 hcc 7.05 WUs and worried. WUs just started flowing again coming in in bunches 15-19 WUs per uploads.

[hendermd]

I was down to 8 as well (on my 7950) before they started flowing again, what's really funny is that my 2 computers without the app_info never got any 6.56 wus.

[nanoprobe]

Just got mine all working again with this.

<app_info>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<user_friendly_name>Help Conquer Cancer</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>wcg_hcc1_img_7.05_windows_intelx86__ati_hcc1 </name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>hcckernel.cl.7.05</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>hcc1</app_name>
<version_num>705</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<plan_class>ati_hcc1</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.80</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>.10</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>wcg_hcc1_img_7.05_windows_intelx86__ati _hcc1</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>hcckernel.cl.7.05</file_name>
<open_name>hcckernel.cl</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app>
<name>hcc1</name>
<user_friendly_name>Help Conquer Cancer</user_friendly_name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>wcg_hcc1_img_6.56_windows_intelx86__ati_hcc1 </name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>hcckernel.cl.6.56</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>hcc1</app_name>
<version_num>656</version_num>
<platform>windows_intelx86</platform>
<plan_class>ati_hcc1</plan_class>
<avg_ncpus>0.80</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
<coproc>
<type>ATI</type>
<count>.10</count>
</coproc>
<file_ref>
<file_name>wcg_hcc1_img_6.56_windows_intelx86__ati _hcc1</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>hcckernel.cl.6.56</file_name>
<open_name>hcckernel.cl</open_name>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
</app_info>

This for 10 at time. Adjust the
<avg_ncpus>0.80</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.0</max_ncpus>
and
<count>.10</count>
to fit your machine for each app version. So far so good. Got new 705 versions to download again even after the 656 versions were done. Still get a 656 now and then. Empty caches freak me out.

[jeanguy2]

Thank you very much nanoprobe,

I am going to change my app_info file to a slightly modded version of yours. Looks like 6.56 hcc WUs have been trying to download to my rig in bunches of 8 to 10 for about 5 hours from 16 Nov 2012 19:36 UTC to 17 Nov 02:03 UTC. I have had none for the last 45 minutes.

error for them was : "no app version found for...ver 6.56...: discarding"

Looks like Bun-Bun was right about keeping a 6.56 and 7.05 combined app_info file just in case the 6.56 ghost came back.

[StitchExperimen]

- boinc_7.0.36_windows_intelx86.exe
- boinc_7.0.36_windows_x86_64.exe
Is this the correct version, and which of these two do I use on a Intel Socket 2011?

The two Gigabyte 7950s arrived in the the mail today.
In route are
CORSAIR AX1200i 1200W ATX12V v2.31 and EPS 2.92 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply.
GIGABYTE GA-X79-UP4 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard.
3 x Noctua NF-F12 PWM 120mm Case Fan.
1 x CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Water Cooler.
1 x MASSCOOL G751 Shin-Etsu Thermal Interface Material.
1 x G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900) Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL9Q- (couldn't get anything faster that people didn't complain about.)
1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit - OEM.

And when I get a refund from the cancelled cpu order I'll get a i7 3930.
1 Have a Blu-ray reader by LG.
256GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD.