***Official***Z68X/P67A-UD7 Club/Discussion/Info**

[the_real_7]

im just reading friend you have the testimonies here some lines down and pages back so other forums

cheers
Sergio

well im hearing the bios update might end on b2 and Im having issues with the new bios , not stable wise , as you where right with the notch up in vdimm . . but it wont boot in ethier Raid or Achi . . only IDE

[owikh84]

maybe your settings ? can you show us your template maybe something your missing . llc2 is definitely not the way to go , you must be at something like 1.60 on load for 5.0

My 2600K is not really a good chip though... What i'm trying to emphasize is that B3 is harder to clock and love more voltages than B2. Anyway here's my setting for 5.0 GHz

### MB Intelligent Tweaker ###

Advanced Frequency Settings:

CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50

> Advanced CPU Core Features

CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50
Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage...........................[ Enabled
Real Time Ratio Changes In OS .........................[ Disabled
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .............................[ Disabled
Turbo Ratio (Core 1)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 2)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 3)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 4)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Power Limit (Watts)..............................[ 300
Turbo Current Limit (Amps).............................[ 300
Spread Spectrum ........................................[ Disabled
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ ........[ All
CPU Multi Threading....................................[ Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ...............................[ Disabled
C3/C6 State Support ...................................[ Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor ...................................[ Disabled
CPU EIST Function .....................................[ Disabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ................................[ Disabled

BCLK/DMI/PEG Clock Control ............................[ Enabled
BCLK/DMI/PEG Frequency Control ........................[ 1002
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33

Advanced Memory Settings:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33
Performance Enhance ...................................[ Extreme
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..........................[ Quick
Channel Interleaving ..................................[ Enabled
Rank Interleaving .....................................[ Enabled
7-10-7-27-CR1 others Auto

Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration .................................[ Level 2
CPU Vcore .............................................[ 1.52
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.050v ................................[ Auto
System Agent Voltage 0.925v ...........................[ Auto
PCH Core 1.050v .......................................[ Auto
CPU PLL 1.800v ........................................[ Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ...................................[ 1.64
DRAM Vref 0.750v ......................................[ Auto
DRAM Termination 0.750v ...............................[ Auto
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto

Miscellaneous Settings
Isochronous Support ...................................[ Disabled
Virtualization Technology .............................[ Disabled

And this was on B2 a few weeks ago...
B2

[andressergio]

some 3dmvantage at 5200 HT ON



cheers !
Sergio

[vern]

some 3dmvantage at 5200 HT ON



cheers !
Sergio

only 1.52V
Nice GPU SLI

[andressergio]

only 1.52V
Nice GPU SLI

thanks mate

1,512 LLC1

SLI x16 x8 1 card 900 core the other 890

[Eldonko]

Got B3 UD7 last night, looks identical to B2 other than marking on pcb. Testing tonight, hopefully it clocks the same.

What BIOS you guys using for B3? F3c?

[stasio]

thanks mate

1,512 LLC1

SLI x16 x8 1 card 900 core the other 890

If I use LLC1 1.57 in BIOS,1.56 idle and 1.53V load.
LLC2 1.51 in BIOS,1.536 idle and 1.548V load.
Sergio,last few your testing Vcore in BIOS?

[the_real_7]

Got B3 UD7 last night, looks identical to B2 other than marking on pcb. Testing tonight, hopefully it clocks the same.

Hopefully you have some good news , either way i think im going over to a B3 also for future bios updates . . .who you do you rma through gigabyte are the the reseller

thanks mate

1,512 LLC1

SLI x16 x8 1 card 900 core the other 890

Nice clock for 1.500 llc1 , Im have to find a chip like that lol

[the_real_7]

My 2600K is not really a good chip though... What i'm trying to emphasize is that B3 is harder to clock and love more voltages than B2. Anyway here's my setting for 5.0 GHz

### MB Intelligent Tweaker ###

Advanced Frequency Settings:

CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50

> Advanced CPU Core Features

CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 50
Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage...........................[ Enabled
Real Time Ratio Changes In OS .........................[ Disabled
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .............................[ Disabled
Turbo Ratio (Core 1)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 2)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 3)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 4)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Power Limit (Watts)..............................[ 300
Turbo Current Limit (Amps).............................[ 300
Spread Spectrum ........................................[ Disabled
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ ........[ All
CPU Multi Threading....................................[ Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ...............................[ Disabled
C3/C6 State Support ...................................[ Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor ...................................[ Disabled
CPU EIST Function .....................................[ Disabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ................................[ Disabled

BCLK/DMI/PEG Clock Control ............................[ Enabled
BCLK/DMI/PEG Frequency Control ........................[ 1002
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33

Advanced Memory Settings:
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33
Performance Enhance ...................................[ Extreme
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..........................[ Quick
Channel Interleaving ..................................[ Enabled
Rank Interleaving .....................................[ Enabled
7-10-7-27-CR1 others Auto

Advanced Voltage Control:
CPU
Load Line Calibration .................................[ Level 2
CPU Vcore .............................................[ 1.52
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.050v ................................[ Auto
System Agent Voltage 0.925v ...........................[ Auto
PCH Core 1.050v .......................................[ Auto
CPU PLL 1.800v ........................................[ Auto

DRAM
DRAM Voltage 1.500v ...................................[ 1.64
DRAM Vref 0.750v ......................................[ Auto
DRAM Termination 0.750v ...............................[ Auto
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto

Miscellaneous Settings
Isochronous Support ...................................[ Disabled
Virtualization Technology .............................[ Disabled

And this was on B2 a few weeks ago...
B2

trying taking you vtt off auto and retrying you vcore settings with llc1 , you can get a mixed bag of results with your settings cause you vcore is jumping up with llc2 and you vtt is is on auto , that a really bad mix to have to get stable

[Eldonko]

I would try the retailer first if they have stock. Will be faster than going through GB. GB press released says end April though so I dunno the timeline on getting new boards to retailers.

Hopefully you have some good news , either way i think im going over to a B3 also for future bios updates . . .who you do you rma through gigabyte are the the reseller

[andressergio]

If I use LLC1 1.57 in BIOS,1.56 idle and 1.53V load.
LLC2 1.51 in BIOS,1.536 idle and 1.548V load.
Sergio,last few your testing Vcore in BIOS?

yes same but i prefeer LLC1 feels more stable than using LLC2
yes i check vcore on BIOS why u ask ?

[Expat GriZ]

@ Eldonko........awaiting your results mate....hope they are the same IF not better!!

@ Sergio ....nice one fella....I think that chip has more in it...

@owikh84..this has nothing to do with your instability...but why are you running Rank Interleaving with 4gb of ram?? Isn't this for 8gb? It will be slower with 4gb I believe.

[cowie]

I can do much better with these boards on phase Cowie (Multi sometimes, and Bclk for sure), so Dice may help you a little bit if that is the only sub-zero cooling you can use.

Thanks for that info
Hope i get some multi movement from max air 54,to 55 or 56 that would be just peachy.
I do have a dewar but to test -0 i think i will try dice first.
Its so cheap and its only 5 miutes away.

[stasio]

yes same but i prefeer LLC1 feels more stable than using LLC2
yes i check vcore on BIOS why u ask ?

I mean,when CPU-Z show 1.512V,what is your Vcore set in BIOS?
owikh84,
try BIOS F3c.

[sin0822]

hey as a suggestion CPU-Z reading is low compared to real DMM measure point, measure the real voltage from a choke, the variation from idle to load for CPU-Z is the same tho. Somtimes with different LLC the CPU-Z reported is too littel or to much compared to actual, and it can be a problem.

[andressergio]

I mean,when CPU-Z show 1.512V,what is your Vcore set in BIOS?

ah ok its 1,525 and BIOS reads 1,524 and on load goes down

stasio gigabyte will keep improving BIOS on rev B2 boards ?

cheers !
Sergio

[andressergio]

@ Sergio ....nice one fella....I think that chip has more in it...

thanks bud i know but i dont want to destroy such nice chip, this is my second and i live in South America kinda hard to get a nice one and wait the arrival etc...

im very happy that does 53x so easy and i think i can stabilize it prime on 5100 with no problem

cheers !
Sergio

[the_real_7]

I would try the retailer first if they have stock. Will be faster than going through GB. GB press released says end April though so I dunno the timeline on getting new boards to retailers.

thanks dude , newegg was suppose to rma these boards in order they where bought and give us notice but , I haven't received anything and thru regular rma does not work , hopefully April is the date to start getting these suckers out on a massive scale

[owikh84]

trying taking you vtt off auto and retrying you vcore settings with llc1 , you can get a mixed bag of results with your settings cause you vcore is jumping up with llc2 and you vtt is is on auto , that a really bad mix to have to get stable

Ok set vtt to 1.05v instead of auto.
LinX stable at 1.53v bios LLC2, ET6 reads 1.584v load.
LLC1 1.63v bios? lol it's not about LLC but B3 sucks more voltage than it should be. B2 just needed 1.49v bios 1.536v load

@ stasio, i came back from F3C means it was not good enough. Yet still a voltage sucker.

[chuchnit]

UD5/7 at newegg right now.

[stasio]

ah ok its 1,525 and BIOS reads 1,524 and on load goes down

stasio gigabyte will keep improving BIOS on rev B2 boards ?

cheers !
Sergio

Here is my LLC1,in BIOS (as you can see)1.57V,idle 1.56V and onload 1.536V.
(Ambient temp +33C)



LLC2 in BIOS 1.51,idle 1.536 and on load 1.542V



Not sure(I doubt) BIOS improvement on B2 boards.

[Falkentyne]

thanks dude , newegg was suppose to rma these boards in order they where bought and give us notice but , I haven't received anything and thru regular rma does not work , hopefully April is the date to start getting these suckers out on a massive scale

It's best to call newegg directly. Me calling them got my RMA serviced right on the spot...

[Falkentyne]

Bios F8 beta series was where people started complaining about vcore instability issues at previous stable settings. F7e was fine, and either f8x or f8f was needing more vcore for some people. But they were claiming that their 3dmark scores shot way up after going to f8f.

My UD5 has seen no such issue, but unlike the UD7's, our B2 bioses had completely broken LLC through the entire series (LLC1 overshot like UD7's LLC2, and LLC2 overshot so much that the comps went +.15v higher then restarted), that was only fixed with F1 of B3. So UD5 users can't do a direct comparison like that.

If someone is brave enough, they can try to crossflash a B2 board with a B3 bios, or a B3 with the tried and true f7e, or f8x, with the spiflash andrea had linked in an X58 thread message, that had the ID check removed (you can find it with a simple search). This was also being debated on the GB forums. It was suggested that flashing a B2 with a B3 bios should work fine (if you can avoid the id check), but no one suggested the *opposite*. So anyone brave or foolish enough to try, make sure you know how to invoke the backup BIOS (lee posted the poweroff/psu/case button trick) or you have a second board handy.

[andressergio]

Here is my LLC1,in BIOS (as you can see)1.57V,idle 1.56V and onload 1.536V.
(Ambient temp +33C)



LLC2 in BIOS 1.51,idle 1.536 and on load 1.542V



Not sure(I doubt) BIOS improvement on B2 boards.

more heat on LLC2 see ?

but prime it stasio linx is kinda easy for SB, and put some better cooling ! lol

cheers
Sergio

[Eldonko]

How do I flash the backup BIOS with B3? It was alt-F12 for B2 but it doesnt work for B3. All I get is the boot menu as if alt wasnt pressed in.