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    let the madness begin...

    well it has begun...

    issues so far... not sure how I should bend the evap into the cooler... not sure if a D5 pump will be ok for these low temps...






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    With a D5 I would not go past +30c Look into IWika pumps or like those. D5 is for water cooling only IMO.

    For bending the evap. One way is by hand and lots of patients. Another is using compression fittings if you can recharge it or have it done.
    If all of this is over your means take it to a shop and have it done for you.
    Last edited by [XC] mysticmerlin; 07-21-2010 at 12:02 PM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by [XC] mysticmerlin View Post
    With a D5 I would not go past +30c Look into IWika pumps or like those. D5 is for water cooling only IMO.

    For bending the evap. One way is by hand and lots of patients. Another is using compression fittings if you can recharge it or have it done.
    If all of this is over your means take it to a shop and have it done for you.


    according to Laing the D5 with plastic housing is good to 0c and the brass housing is good to -35c (just found the info online)

    I will look into those pumps you are talking about

    I am thinking about cutting the bottom out of the A/C unit and not having to bend the evap at all...

    I can braze... I might be able to evac the unit... however I do not have the refrigerant to charge it, I do have manifold gauges... but the HVAC guy down the street does have access to the refrigerant...

    however the goal here is to avoid opening the system... if I was going to open here up I would simply get rid of the stock evap and build a phase change cooler

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    My D5 and D4 have been handling my slightly sub-ambient water(19C-25C) just fine. Also, we tend to abuse our central air so my system ran at 27 idle easy back on regular water. Both of these examples 24/7 use.

    I can't provide much input on bending the suction line, Im not at such a phase guru level xD

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    this will all be ran in my storage room which is right next to my office!


    this was the first test... I will be fully submersing the evap once I patch the hole in the side or the cooler




    this is what it looks like so far


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    last night I talked to a guy that has been running a D4 pump @ -30c for about 4 years... so I am not worried about it... he did mention that if you plan to do any work at all to the pump you must must must wait for it to warm up or it will break

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    I love it! Nice job on the bends, I was wondering how you were going to pull that off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underdog1425 View Post
    I love it! Nice job on the bends, I was wondering how you were going to pull that off.
    lol... thank you so was I

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericFX1984 View Post
    last night I talked to a guy that has been running a D4 pump @ -30c for about 4 years... so I am not worried about it... he did mention that if you plan to do any work at all to the pump you must must must wait for it to warm up or it will break
    Good deal. Hope it works for you then. What are you using for the liquid and is it cut or straight pour? Also what temp do you plan to run this at?



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    started my first test, not hooked to anything yet... do not have a working temp probe ATM...

    trying to freeze winter windshield washer fluid

    18:55: turned on

    19:01 noticed tube is frosty...

    19:04: had to shut down small coolant leak

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    patched up the leak in the cooler (res) using hot glue

    starting test (attempting to freeze winter windsheild washer fluid) starting at room temp of 21c

    22:27: started chiller

    22:29: observed condensation on suction line

    22:34: observed ice crystals forming on suction tube

    22:40: coolant is very cold to the touch, similar to the last beer in the bottom of the ice cold water in a cooler

    22:53: no real changes, still cold

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    holy crap the clear flex tubing turns to stone!

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    ran some chilled coolant through the water block and the block turned to ice in a few seconds!

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    You dont want to run real cold coolant through a block made of plastic/acrylic/delrin, it may crack

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    Quote Originally Posted by underdog1425 View Post
    You dont want to run real cold coolant through a block made of plastic/acrylic/delrin, it may crack
    I know this... I might be ordering the brass top for it

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    here are some pics...

    it only takes a few mins to get the block turned to ice...




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    now this i like
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    ice ice everywhere








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    room temp @ 16:46 82.3F


    coolant temp before start up 58.6F


    coolant temp at start up (16:49) 58.6F

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    coolant temp @ 16:51 57.5F

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    " " @ 16:53 54.9F
    light condensation on suction line and coolant tubes

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    " " @ 16:55 50.2F
    no change in condensation

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    " " @ 16:57 48.2F
    slightly more condensation

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    " " @ 16:59 44.2F
    heavy condesation

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    " " @ 17:01 41.9F

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    " " @ 17:03 39.9F

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    " " @ 17:05 37.2F

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    " " @ 17:07 35.4F

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    " " @ 17:09 33.4F
    even more condensation, like its about to rain!

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    " " @ 17:11 31.3F
    light frost on suction tube, none on coolant tubes

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    " " @ 17:13 30.0F
    heavy frost on suction tube

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    " " @ 17:15 30.0F

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    " " @ 17:23 19.4F
    heavy frost on water block, light frost on coolant tubes

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    " " @ 17:26 18.2F

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    " " @ 17:30 16.2F

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    " " @ 17:33 13.8F
    frost around barbs

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    " " @ 17:43 8.6F
    frost on coolant tubes, frost on D5 pump

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    " " @ 17:58 2.8F
    almost on frost on the intake coolant hose?

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    " " @ 18:02 1.2F

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    " " @ 18:07 0.0F
    WOW!

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    18:12 -1.3F

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    18:22 -3.5F

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    18:32 -5.3F

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    18:41 -7.1F

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    18:57 -8.9

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    19:20 -11.0F

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    19:26 - shut down, Beer time! -11.2F

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    yep i like it
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    I am going to fire it up today and use a lazer thermometer to get temps on the block face

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