AMD Phenom II X6 | Turbo CORE 101

[ajaidev]

yes, some models are good for 400mhz, some 500, but sofar i dont know if that means we will always see the max turbo, or no turbo, or if there are stages, but since its a P state, i assume it means its max or no turbo, just how many cores is the only variable

I think the last digit determines if its 400mhz or 500mhz, because the 960T has 400mhz boost and so does the 1090T....

[Manicdan]

I think the last digit determines if its 400mhz or 500mhz, because the 960T has 400mhz boost and so does the 1090T....

yeah we went over all that before, it kinda sucks that at launch we wont have the 1095, or 1075, and the 1055 will be the 125W version instead of the 95W version. so all the ones i would want will be out in Q3

[ajaidev]

yeah we went over all that before, it kinda sucks that at launch we wont have the 1095, or 1075, and the 1055 will be the 125W version instead of the 95W version. so all the ones i would want will be out in Q3

I specially miss the 1075T, now my choice will be between a i7 930 or a 1075T. I wanted the E5620 instead of the i7 930 as a option but it will be more expensive than i want to go.

[informal]

The key words here are: 'up to' and 'depending on CPU model'

Yeah it's very complicated : 400Mhz over stock clock across 3 cores if model number ends with "0" or 500Mhz over stock clock across 3 cores if model number ends with "5" . So with 1090T model you have 125W 3.2Ghz hex core OR 3.6Ghz three core,depending on the load scenario.The TDP is never crossed ,it's a guarantee(dedicated HW inside the chip,not temperature based).It can only be the rated value or below the rated value(95W or 125W),no matter if Turbo kicks in or not.

[Firestrider]

Yeah it's very complicated : 400Mhz over stock clock across 3 cores if model number ends with "0" or 500Mhz over stock clock across 3 cores if model number ends with "5" . So with 1090T model you have 125W 3.2Ghz hex core OR 3.6Ghz three core,depending on the load scenario.The TDP is never crossed ,it's a guarantee(dedicated HW inside the chip,not temperature based).It can only be the rated value or below the rated value(95W or 125W),no matter if Turbo kicks in or not.

So even if you have just a single compute-intensive software thread its going to turbo 3 cores? That doesn't seem very efficient to me... just sayin.

[Florinmocanu]

that's orange to apples... What you said can be reversed when looking at games today, most of them use 2 cores so they will get a nice boost in CPU power.

[Manicdan]

So even if you have just a single compute-intensive software thread its going to turbo 3 cores? That doesn't seem very efficient to me... just sayin.

id bet u will see 5 cores at .8 ghz, and 1 core at 3.x ghz

[flippin_waffles]

So even if you have just a single compute-intensive software thread its going to turbo 3 cores? That doesn't seem very efficient to me... just sayin.

I bet you will never have a case where there is a single compute-intensive thread, unless the intention is to intentionally isolate one core, for some strange reason. Or if you run out of date and obsolete software. Both seem pointless, unless you are bias for or against one architecture.

[Firestrider]

I bet you will never have a case where there is a single compute-intensive thread, unless the intention is to intentionally isolate one core, for some strange reason. Or if you run out of date and obsolete software. Both seem pointless, unless you are bias for or against one architecture.

One word: virtualization.

[Florinmocanu]

so? You run 6 instances and your done.

Turbo on Intel or AMD is not for well threaded apps, it's for old/low-threaded apps, to give better perf.

In virtualization you need more cores mainly, so you can run more instances.

[Sn0wm@n]

Would be cool to be able to configure these states by ourselves.
Pretty smart implementation either way!

probably thinking like a top of the line cool n quiet for the oc'er ???? 4ghz at a certain volt ... and when you put more load certain core will overvolt and oc to 5ghz if the heat can be taken out of equation??? if so we are thinking about the same thing

what about Cold bug 64NOMIS?

same 45nm fab process so i doubt that they have one .... queue the LHE joke

[64NOMIS]

[Nevakonaza]

I think this will be my next upgrade

Im going back to AMD!

[jmke]

it's annoying when these sites put up the info knowing they have not bloody stock

Belgian stores already have stock

[massman]

Some good news for overclockers in here:

The big achievement is how they manage to get six cores running at
3.2 GHz at the same TDP as a quad core 3.2 GHz Phenom II X4 955.
The 140W 965 is only just now going EOL being entirely replaced by
a 125W version.

It's almost comparable with a full process node improvement like Intel
did by going from a 130W quad core 3.33 GHz 45nm Nehalem to the
130W six core 3.33 GHz 32nm Westmere.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...i-x6,2604.html
http://www.techreport.com/discussions.x/18731
http://anandtech.com/show/3641/amd-d...o-core-enabled
http://hothardware.com/News/AMD-Turb...logy-Revealed/

The first two sides mention low-k and THG specifically mentions it as
going between the metal lines so most likely the speed improvements
are indeed due to to lower RC-wire delays.

This looks to be very good news for overclockers since the RC delays
are basically temperature independent. You can't improve them by cooling,
so LN and LHe results are for a large part determined by RC delays.


Regards, Hans.

Can I just say it's a pleasure to read your posts?

[dinos22]

Belgian stores already have stock

really daaamn ok
nothing here

[Lightman]

@jmke
And reviewers have their samples?

2 more weeks to go ...

BTW it will be interesting to see how 6-core is coping with DDR-2 memory. Will it show bigger difference going to DDR-3 than Phenoms X4 were showing?
If AMD will use faster NB clocks then I bet it will!

[massman]

@jmke
And reviewers have their samples?

No. Review samples have yet to be send out.

[tool_462]

No cold bug again

[FlanK3r]

hm, il like for overclocking, better than PII C3? Or simillary (air/watter)?

[ridney]

come on! show us the results already!

[tbone8ty]

how will the 960T price compare to the 965?

that will really be awesome if these unlock

960T + asus 890gx for the win

will these be available April 26th or is that just a paper launch?

[PatRaceTin]

960T with unlocked to 6cores will be my next cpu

[FlanK3r]

i think, it will not possible unlock 960T up x6 (different solutions than core Denebs)

[informal]

960T is Thuban based,so unlock is a possibility.